Also, I think the idea of discourse regarding race relations is a narrative that is going to be present in America long after we are both dead assuming that the aliens don't land in LA and come take us all prisoners in which case America will no longer exist. The point being, the individuals in that video not being interested in discourse doesn't mean that there are not individuals on both sides of the issue that are.
Unrest in Missouri
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Sure, PR fallout doesn't have anything to do with whether or not something is right or wrong ethically or morally. It does effect what is pragmatic though.
Things can't be that bad at Mizzou. The main complainer / student has been a student on campus for seven years and even Michael Sam has returned to campus to get his degree. Michael Sam originally said that he was treated great and not once was he called any names or mistreated while at Missouri. Twenty four hours later he somewhat recanted his original comments. Interesting. To the poster who said Michael Sam didn't belong in this narrative, and you know who you are,.......well, Michael Sam involved himself. Not all of the football team was "in" and the basketball team never was, and never was going to be. The universities deserve exactly what they are getting because they are the ones nurturing these little spoiled children. And now their students have turned on them. That also is very funny. Mark my words. Agitators and professional victims will now work athletes on the football and basketball teams to get their way and the adults in the room will always cave.
It me. You still aren't accepting any points of view you don't disagree with. Further, Sam's story is distinguishable temporal as it ocurred 2 years ago and we'll race and sexual orientation aren't the same thing.
1) There's a real good chance that a protest from people that don't agree w/ the white privilege narrative would never happen, for a few reasons, but if there was such a protest, I'll agree w/ you that we'd get a different slant on it based on who we're watching. Which is sad, in itself, that even the media has become so divided that we the people are forced to listen to biased views (both left & right) from the supposed experts in their fields. So I'll concede that the conservative medium (Fox & conservative talk radio) would be more lenient, but make no mistake, the rest of the media (Networks, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC) would crucify them, possibly unwarrantedly, imo.
2 & 3 are the same question & it's pretty obvious that if this actually happened, they'd be protesting against the fact that people are being forced to resign their posts & being forced to admit that their positions are all in thanks to their respective white privilege, something to that effect.
Don't know how to react to your claim about my "pessimism suggesting that the only way for these people can voice their opinion is through antagonistic rhetoric". It's a conclusion that you drew out of thin air.
As for trying to make it sound like I said that groundbreaking events on racial issues on a college campus is BS? Seriously? What I said was that your post about how the media would cozy up & say "wow, some cool things are happening" to a group that protests against the white privilege narrative is BS. Big difference.
My belief that the media could react that way is premised on the idea that something ground breaking could happen. Implicit in the assumption the the media would vilify protests of the white privilege narrative is the notion that any protest couldn't be rational enough that it would be viewed positively.
I would like to tip my hat to all who taken part of this subject title.
There has been a wide range of view points and differences of opinions, but with respect in the replies it shows it possible.
Good Job!
There has been a wide range of view points and differences of opinions, but with respect in the replies it shows it possible.
Good Job!
I concur, dip. There's hope. SAL, we'll agree to disagree. I hope some good comes from this.
DIP I agree. This conversation is a nice change of pace from what can usually happen with topics like this.
