You think its funny because you don't take it seriously but others do no need to minimize others to express that you disagree.
Unrest in Missouri
- Thread starter IRISH_FRIAR
- Start date
They should fire Pinkel and tell the players if they aren't at practice today... They can find another school.
Protesting Halloween costumes or a chicken sandwich is extremely funny. These are supposed to be schools of higher education. Not elementary school. Everyone's a victim on the college campus. I do need to minimize these protests by laughing because it's the story of the boy who cried wolf over and over and over. On a very positive note. Purdue North Central has made the 2015 list of military friendly universities....again. My congratulations go out to the Panthers.
1. The president stepped down, I thought the Players protest was directly related to the President stepping down are they still boycotting Missouri sports?
2. Why should they fire Pinkel for supporting his team?
I think you are misusing the analogy of the boy who cried wolf and again I think you discount what others think are important because you disagree. The point however is that for young people a lot of what college is deals with trying to figure out what is important to them, if they want to have protests because they disagree with one thing or another why should they be looked down upon?
When universities profit from a multi-billion dollar athletics industry, they shouldn't be surprised when engines of that industry exercise power that's been given to them. This wouldn't be happening at a D-III school. The inmates comparison is really inapt.
No, it would show that Missouri is intolerant of anyone who disagrees with the administration.
You don't want a coach that support his team? I thought the beauty of college sports is that there are somethings that are bigger then the sport itself?
If he doesn't support his team, how do you think he is going to recruit kids to play for him?
They should fire Coach Pinkel because he got involved in a political issue. Protesting White Privlege (White Male institutions paraphrasing) the protesters words is an opinion and he was not hired for that
Ridiculous post.
Not sure what inapt means. Maybe they should set the curriculum and hire the next President? Get to practice or lose your scholarship.
What about the teammates that don't agree with the white privilege narrative. Who is their voice
If its "crap" then you agree that college football is about money, winning and getting kids to the NFL right. The college experience doesn't factor in.
The leaders of asylums don't benefit from the inmates making them billions of dollars. When you give people that much power, you should expect that it comes back to bite you.
Should Clemson have fired Dabo if he went and accepted the award from the organization that was publicly against gay marriage?
Excellent question, dip. Unfortunately, if they did have a voice, it'd be battered by the media & called, well, racist.
Mixing apples and organes. Religious conviction are not the same as an institution that has given you a scholarship / accepted your application for higher learning and to improve your life don't you think
Now youre mixing the apples with the oranges. We are talking about the players on the team we are talking about firing an individual with a contract. Pinkel has a job not a scholarship and he provides a service to the university which the university profits greatly from. The organization in question politicized their religious beliefs enough to the point that they became viewed as a political organization. My question is where is the bright line for when political expression is a fireable offense?
So if they came out & "used" their voice, how would the media paint that?
Why is it ridiculous? Because you say so? Or do you have some reasons for your claim?
It probably would depend on what they said and how they said it. That is an impossible hypothetical to answer. If they came out and were actively interested in engaging in civil discourse I bet the media would take note and say wow there is something cool happening at Mizzou. If they were dismissive or even worse disrespectful in their rhetoric then I am guessing they would get eaten up. Some media members though would probably applaud them either way.
Excellent response yet his job is to support the team and unless he interview each player for fear not to be singled out (which I truly doubt) the he should of stayed out of it
It's not an impossible hypothetical to answer. If a group that didn't agree w/ the "white privilege narrative" protested, they'd be vilified by the media. Don't act as though liberal & conservative views are equally treated by the media, they're not. This notion that "the media would take note & say wow something cool is happening at Mizzou" is BS, imo. Very, very few members would applaud them, most would deem them racists.
I think that is a fair position I just don't agree. I think Pinkel can support both sides by saying "the players that want to boycott we stand by them and support them and their fight but we have a team here of players that aren't a part of that fight and we will do everything we can to support them as well". Unless there is a race issue on his team that makes the issue truly divisive I am not certain that Pinkle's support of of certain players necessarily has to comes at the condemnation of the other players. As I said before I believe this is rather moot at this point as I think Mizzou's team has resumed or will resume practices and play this week. If I am wrong on that then I apologize in advance.
A divided team never succeeds. Coaches are supposed to prevent division and for unity
It is though, you are asking me to guess at how "the media" will respond to an action that hasn't been taken. The issues with your hypothetical are:
1. You don't identify which part of the media you are speaking of -- I get it you want to villify the "liberal media" but the media in general has extremes from both sides.
2. You don't identify how those that disagree with the white privilege narrative would voice their opinion or what the purpose of them voicing their opinion would be.
(and )
3. You don't identify the manner which they would voice their opinion.
Your pessimism regarding the media reaction suggests that one you believe the only way those disagreeing with the white privilege narrative can voice their opinion is through antagonistic rhetoric regarding race. Further, if you think the potential that something groundbreaking could happen on a college campus regarding racial discourse is BS then you must not have faith that change can happen on the issue anywhere.
Sure, but like I said sometime there are things bigger then football when no one is getting paid to play.
That's a whole different debate. I would argue the education one receives in college is bigger then what happens in the classroom
If you've watched the video posted you will see clearly there is no discussion going to happen with that group.
Yes that quote taken out of context and posted here provides so much background. My bad that I responded immaturely and dismissively to a post critiquing notions that white privilege exists by demonstrating an example of white privilege.
I am of the opinion that the video that has gone viral isn't reflective of the entire group of people that were involved in the protests. I also think that there are a lot of interesting movements and points of view that get discredited because those that are the loudest advocates for the position are not the best advocates or even worse are so out of control that they lose sight of the goal.
Sure, and I haven't been one to say you can't pull their scholarships or that Mizzou shouldn't. I do however agree with Ewing that doing so would be/would have been a PR disaster.
