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Underwood to Michigan

I know, and let the BK bashing begin. And of all places, the worst shitshow of a passing offense in CFB. That must have been the pitch. Let's cut the bullshit, this is about the money, and that's all it's about. No one would come here to play QB. But, since Michigan is so bad, so weirdly bad at QB, he can be a sure thing frosh starter. That's probably part of the deal. And he'll just go from there and hope for the best. Take the money and run. With the original plan being to go to LSU and become the next Jayden Daniels, more or less. And not the next JJ McCarthy.

But as far as ND fans are concerned, this is a big blow for LSU football, so let's crack open the beers!
 
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He's not even the #1 rated QB on Rivals. But he's definitely no Jayden Daniels. He's a good athlete who runs pretty well, but that's it. I don't know how much better he even is than Deuce Knight. So he's not some generational dual threat, but still really good.
 
That will be decided 3-4 years from now.

We have no idea today who the best 2025 QB will be 3-4 years from now. No one definitively does.
I rather have the opportunity than have him leave me at alter! Anyway you spin it BK's chair is on 🔥!!
 
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That will be decided 3-4 years from now.

We have no idea today who the best 2025 QB will be 3-4 years from now. No one definitively does.
Obviously I was talking about right now

If you couldn't understand that, I'll have to say it as clearly for you as possible because you struggle with stuff like this

As of today, I think that Underwood is the best QB prospect in this class
 
Obviously I was talking about right now

If you couldn't understand that, I'll have to say it as clearly for you as possible because you struggle with stuff like this

As of today, I think that Underwood is the best QB prospect in this class
OK. That's fair.
 
I bet he bombs at Meatchicin. 🤣
Of all the places for him to end up. Michigan is the worst passing team in the P4. Dead last. So bad that you could say it cost them their season. And instead of becoming the next Jayden Daniels, which was definitely the plan for him, why he picked LSU, he can be the next JJ McCarthy, with no Harbaugh. I guess he's a guaranteed true frosh starter, by default. And I could easily imagine that scumbag from Barstool sports tying to hold out on him and screw him on the deal.

Anyway, F BK, right?
 
That's fine.

63 million for not working is a good gig.
Is that why he got into coaching or was it to win a NC and be considered one of the great coaches in CFB?? If he got into it for 💰 only then it fits his loser mentality perfectly! He was a prick in 83' when he started at Assumption and has only gotten worse over the last 40 years.
 
Is that why he got into coaching or was it to win a NC and be considered one of the great coaches in CFB?? If he got into it for 💰 only then it fits his loser mentality perfectly! He was a prick in 83' when he started at Assumption and has only gotten worse over the last 40 years.
Spoken like a true hater, I have to chuckle at that one. I have this vague memory of reading some blog right around the time BK was hired, and it was some ND geek alum, opining about whoever the new coach might be, and naturally BK was mentioned. And they liked him, they considered him an eligible candidate. But maybe a little too 'community college' was the phrasing I think they used. As if he might not be patrician enough somehow, for a place like ND. Which is LOL funny.

Assumption college, baby! He's only like 5-9, I think he was a LB as a player. So he had to play D-2. You got a problem with that?
 
Is that why he got into coaching or was it to win a NC and be considered one of the great coaches in CFB?? If he got into it for 💰 only then it fits his loser mentality perfectly! He was a prick in 83' when he started at Assumption and has only gotten worse over the last 40 years.
Real question: did you know him or play for him at Assumption?
 
Spoken like a true hater, I have to chuckle at that one. I have this vague memory of reading some blog right around the time BK was hired, and it was some ND geek alum, opining about whoever the new coach might be, and naturally BK was mentioned. And they liked him, they considered him an eligible candidate. But maybe a little too 'community college' was the phrasing I think they used. As if he might not be patrician enough somehow, for a place like ND. Which is LOL funny.

Assumption college, baby! He's only like 5-9, I think he was a LB as a player. So he had to play D-2. You got a problem with that?
Yep, I do hate him as much as you love him!
 
Of all the places for him to end up. Michigan is the worst passing team in the P4. Dead last. So bad that you could say it cost them their season. And instead of becoming the next Jayden Daniels, which was definitely the plan for him, why he picked LSU, he can be the next JJ McCarthy, with no Harbaugh. I guess he's a guaranteed true frosh starter, by default. And I could easily imagine that scumbag from Barstool sports tying to hold out on him and screw him on the deal.

Anyway, F BK, right?
This isn’t Barstool money. Michigan released a statement and the first names that were mentioned were Larry Ellison & his wife. Billionaire money is a different level. Michigan appears to be competing with the likes of Oregon on NIL spend.

https://www.championscircleuofm.com/thosewhostayhome
 
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This isn’t Barstool money. Michigan released a statement and the first names that were mentioned were Larry Ellison & his wife. Billionaire money is a different level. Michigan appears to be competing with the likes of Oregon on NIL spend.

https://www.championscircleuofm.com/thosewhostayhome
It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors, bringing back their own fourth and fifth years, and signing three and four star prospects 😂
 
It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors and three and four star prospects lol
Do you think we have a chance to win it this year? Final 4? Playoff win? What are your expectations for the rest of this season?
 
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Do you think we have a chance to win it this year? Final 4? Playoff win? What are your expectations for the rest of this season?
I think the best indicator of where a team stands in the hierarchy of college football is the F+ rankings. F+ sees Notre Dame as a back end top 10 team and considerably far away from the top five or so teams in the country which isn't too far away from how F+ has viewed Notre Dame going back to the inception of the F+ system.

What has Notre Dame won over the last 15 years being a back-end top 10 to top 15 team? They usually do well versus their ACC & G5 opponents and then get gobsmacked against anybody at the high end of college football (to the teams that are securing the type of prospects that Underwood represents)

Somehow I'm the only one able to make this connection in the entirety of the Notre Dame fan base

With that being said how do you think I think Notre Dame will do in the playoffs in terms of their upside/chances of winning national title?
 
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It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors, bringing back their own fourth and fifth years, and signing three and four star prospects 😂
On3 reported this evening that Bryce’s offer was $1.5M from LSU (are they not a big program?) It’s being reported Michigan offered $10.5-$12M. Pretty substantial gap.

I know of very few athletes being offered this amount of cash out of high school, but apparently everyone but ND is doing it…
 
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On3 reported this evening that Bryce’s offer was $1.5M from LSU (are they not a big program?) It’s being reported Michigan offered $10.5-$12M. Pretty substantial gap.

I know of very few athletes being offered this amount of cash out of high school, but apparently everyone but ND is doing it…
What do you think happens when one player signs a major NIL deal? He sets the market for the next number one consensus prospect that comes along. Conversations will start at 10 million going forward.

I don't think people realize just how much money is involved in college football these days

$10 million is relative chump change

That's why I made the point that Notre Dame should be out in the forefront right now dumping tons of money on all the best prospects in the country because prospects are at their cheapest point as I'm typing this then they will probably ever be. And by the time Notre Dame adjusts to the new market there won't be any competitive advantage to be had anymore and they'll be needing to spend this kind of money just to maintain their current standing instead of seizing this opportunity to get ahead

The leadership at Notre Dame as it relates to the football program is completely ineffectual. It's why they can't win football games at the highest level anymore.
 
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What do you think happens when one player signs a major NIL deal? He sets the market for the next number one consensus prospect comes along. Conversations will start at 10 million going forward.

I don't think people realize just how much money is involved in college football 10 million is relative chump change

That's why I made the point that Notre Dame should be out in the forefront right now dumping tons of money on all the best prospects in the country because prospects are at their cheapest point as I'm typing this then they will probably ever be. And by the time Notre Dame adjusts to the new market there won't be any competitive advantage to be had anymore and they'll be needing to spend this kind of money just to stay relevant instead of getting ahead
Sounds like a salary cap should be coming for NIL then, unless this is Major League Baseball.

By the way, do you know who Larry Ellison is? He’s the 2nd richest person on earth, worth $231 Billion, he lead the charge for Underwood. $10M to him is like, idk maybe $3 to us? Probably less. If someone like him gets behind a program and continues to lead NIL funding, it’s over. Just overpay well over market value. How could anyone compete?

But maybe you can email Elon Musk and see if he wants to join us. Anyone know if he’s Catholic?
 
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Sounds like a salary cap should be coming for NIL then, unless this is Major League Baseball.

By the way, do you know who Larry Ellison is? He’s the 2nd richest person on earth, worth $231 Billion, he lead the charge for Underwood. $10M to him is like, idk maybe $3 to us? Probably less. If someone like him gets behind a program and continues to lead NIL funding, it’s over. Just overpay well over market value. How could anyone compete?

But maybe you can email Elon Musk and see if he wants to join us. Anyone know if he’s Catholic?
Notre Dame has one of the highest endowment in all of college football. Notre Dame football is a billion dollar enterprise making hundreds of millions of dollars in sales per year in and of itself

10 million for the number one consensus prospect in college football in this multi-billion dollar industry that is college football is relative chump change
 
The reason why colleges aren't spending $10 million dollars on prospects in college football is not because they can't afford it or that it's not worth it it's because they are fighting the war that is the current economic power struggle going on in college football between labor and oligarchy not un like any other war between these two parties since the beginning of civilization
 
Notre Dame has one of the highest endowment in all of college football. Notre Dame football is a billion dollar enterprise making hundreds of millions of dollars in sales per year in and of itself

10 million for the number one consensus prospect in college football in this industry and for the opportunity to find your star QB for the next 3 to 4 years is chump change
Then why aren’t football programs and Universities funding their own NIL collectives if it’s so easy?

Why is Oregon funded by billionaire Knight? Why was Underwood funded outside of the University of Michigan as well? Hell, why didn’t LSU match the offer from their program? I don’t see Georgia offering $10M to high school players, or Alabama?
 
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Colleges aren't refusing to pony up because they can't afford to -- or because it's not worth it -- they are refusing to pony up for political & economical power reasons
 
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By the way I'm mobile right now using voice transcription so I apologize for the rougher than usual grammar
 
That comparison is, well, something alright.

I’m not sure political reasons are the only reason here. I think paying high school kids millions of dollars is a great risk. Go through the rivals top 10 QBs over the last 10 years and tell me how many you believe were worth “Top 10 Money.” I bet it will be lower than you think.

Is Underwood worth $12M? Time will tell. The only thing I know is Michigan fans could care less if he is because a billionaire wrote the check, they’re just happy he’s on their team.
 
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