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Tommy Rees...

I think Tommy is a little overated. I have heard he is a major ass and that he thinks he is the smartest man in the room. I think we can all question his recruiting..
 
'Fail Upward' is a bit extreme. I observed in 2022 the offense was good for about half a game. I would say that he got a bit too much too fast.
 
It amazes me the individuals on a message board believe they know more than NFL and College coaches in assessing Rees' coaching abilities.
 
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It amazes me the individuals on a message board believe they know more than NFL and College coaches in assessing Rees' coaching abilities.
If no one here could give an opinion then there would be no message board.

I guess we couldn't question BVG or Del Alexander either. Are we allowed to question players abilities because weren't you calling for Angeli earlier in the year.

What are we allowed to discuss?
 
After listening to a recent interview where he talked at length about Tommy Rees, Nick Saban certainly isn't scratching his head. Saban respects Tommy Rees a great deal as a coach and as a person.
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Somehow people on a message board, who generally don't know shit, isn't all that convincing. Seems to me people who are actually in the arena, in the profession are perfectly clear on his skillset
The new coach for the Patriots was going to interview T Rees for their OC job. People in the profession think pretty highly of him.
 
If no one here could give an opinion then there would be no message board.

I guess we couldn't question BVG or Del Alexander either. Are we allowed to question players abilities because weren't you calling for Angeli earlier in the year.

What are we allowed to discuss?
Discussing is one thing, but positing as if you’re an authority is quite another
 
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If no one here could give an opinion then there would be no message board.

I guess we couldn't question BVG or Del Alexander either. Are we allowed to question players abilities because weren't you calling for Angeli earlier in the year.

What are we allowed to discuss?
I don't claim to be an expert like you falsely do. I provide my opinions, yes, but you claim to be an authority in college football, yet here you are sitting in an anonymous forum instead of actually working as a coach or analyst for some program. You're a fraud.
 
I don't claim to be an expert like you falsely do. I provide my opinions, yes, but you claim to be an authority in college football, yet here you are sitting in an anonymous forum instead of actually working as a coach or analyst for some program. You're a fraud.
This 1000 times.
 
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I think Tommy has shown talent and success as a coach. It's been a choppy path. Not surprising in such a tough and competitive career path.

But a lot of people and teams out their trust in him. Notre Dame. Alabama. Chargers Brown. BK. Saban. Freeman. OC in college football and NFL.

He was a mediocre QB. But he's clearly used the experience to know Xs and Os...and you never know if he becomes a head coach...and he is ND alumni who maybe becomes ND head coach one day.

I admit I criticized Turnover Tommy a hell of a lot as QB...but I now root for him a hell of a lot as coach, to maybe come back to ND when it is his time.
 
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I don't claim to be an expert like you falsely do. I provide my opinions, yes, but you claim to be an authority in college football, yet here you are sitting in an anonymous forum instead of actually working as a coach or analyst for some program. You're a fraud.
Right, you have nothing again and now I claim to be an authority on cfb.

You're becoming a bigger loser by the day.

You can have Fickell and Rees like you want. I'll take Freeman and Denborock. Let's see who wins out
 
Right, you have nothing again and now I claim to be an authority on cfb.

You're becoming a bigger loser by the day.

You can have Fickell and Rees like you want. I'll take Freeman and Denborock. Let's see who wins out


I could be wrong, but I think Rees might have more upside than Denbrock. Freeman for sure is the best of this group no doubt and yet still will get better.

Again, I didn't like Tommy as QB nor OC at ND. Saw too much gimmick. But he's being given trust and great jobs...which suggests he too is learning, as he's only 32.
 
I could be wrong, but I think Rees might have more upside than Denbrock. Freeman for sure is the best of this group no doubt and yet still will get better.

Again, I didn't like Tommy as QB nor OC at ND. Saw too much gimmick. But he's being given trust and great jobs...which suggests he too is learning, as he's only 32.
That would be good for ND if he turned into a great coach. But as of now, he's been okay nothing special
 
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It amazes me the individuals on a message board believe they know more than NFL and College coaches in assessing Rees' coaching abilities.
Many dislike his general theory (using short passes for runs) even if Rees is good at planning it.

I read that anOSU is doing so much better in the playoffs than the end of the regular season because they switched to a quick running game in the Norvell style.
 
That would be good for ND if he turned into a great coach. But as of now, he's been okay nothing special
Nick Saban's assessment of Tommy Rees as an OC and a coach in general disagrees with your assessment of Tommy Rees. By a really wide margin.
 
Rees has done nothing special as a coach. If other coaches keep hiring him, they will have either seen some future potential in him or it’s just another example of the coaching fraternity that keeps re-treading coaches even though they haven’t done that much to distinguish themselves. Comparatively speaking, most coaches have to really show that their offenses are top notch before they would get OC positions at ND, bama and now in the nfl, but not rees. I’m sure having a dad in the profession for years hasn’t hurt. The jury is still out, imo. He was an average at best qb, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a good coach. I just haven’t seen it to the point that it warrants him having the positions he’s had already. Again, the coaches that are doing the hiring see something, obviously, I just don’t see it in the results yet. They could be wrong, and so can I.
 
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Rees has done nothing special as a coach. If other coaches keep hiring him, they will have either seen some future potential in him or it’s just another example of the coaching fraternity that keeps re-treading coaches even though they haven’t done that much to distinguish themselves. Comparatively speaking, most coaches have to really show that their offenses are top notch before they would get OC positions at ND, bama and now in the nfl, but not rees. I’m sure having a dad in the profession for years hasn’t hurt. The jury is still out, imo. He was an average at best qb, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a good coach. I just haven’t seen it to the point that it warrants him having the positions he’s had already. Again, the coaches that are doing the hiring see something, obviously, I just don’t see it in the results yet. They could be wrong, and so can I.
I'm going with they know a helluva lot more than you, or I or anyone else on a message board. Why not just feel good for the kid and wish him well; that would seem appropriate
 
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Somebody has pictures on someone. He has under whelmed every where and was average at QB.
 
“I'm going with they know a helluva lot more than you, or I or anyone else on a message board. Why not just feel good for the kid and wish him well; that would seem appropriate”

Diehard, I’m not claiming to know more than anyone, I’m just opining on his trajectory. I can tell you’re a big fan of his. He’s not my cup of tea as a player or coach, but I’ve never wished him not well (other than when he defected to the once evil empire😜).
 
“I'm going with they know a helluva lot more than you, or I or anyone else on a message board. Why not just feel good for the kid and wish him well; that would seem appropriate”

Diehard, I’m not claiming to know more than anyone, I’m just opining on his trajectory. I can tell you’re a big fan of his. He’s not my cup of tea as a player or coach, but I’ve never wished him not well (other than when he defected to the once evil empire😜).
It's not that I'm a big fan of his, it's more a general sentiment. He's obviously coveted in his coaching abilities, he's a ND man, so I wish him well and hope he has great success. This kid did more for UND Football than most 3* you can name, so I'm pulling for him
 
Rees has done nothing special as a coach. If other coaches keep hiring him, they will have either seen some future potential in him or it’s just another example of the coaching fraternity that keeps re-treading coaches even though they haven’t done that much to distinguish themselves. Comparatively speaking, most coaches have to really show that their offenses are top notch before they would get OC positions at ND, bama and now in the nfl, but not rees. I’m sure having a dad in the profession for years hasn’t hurt. The jury is still out, imo. He was an average at best qb, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a good coach. I just haven’t seen it to the point that it warrants him having the positions he’s had already. Again, the coaches that are doing the hiring see something, obviously, I just don’t see it in the results yet. They could be wrong, and so can I.
I don't know if you can retread someone that young. I think he still has the prodigy halo effect going. Not that he's some incompetent coach who doesn't know football, far from it. But just that because he's so young, and has had these good jobs so young, thanks very much to BK as much as his own precocity, and Nick Saban too hired him, that there's enough people out there who want to get ahead of the curve. And think he must be hot shit. Which he may well be, it's certainly not to say that he's some kind of fraud or something, but maybe just a little overrated for all the chances he's getting at such a tender age. Especially when the reason he got such an early start, was his relationship with BK, and he was his protege, or at least that's what I would say. And otherwise he would have had a slower, more typical ascent up the coaching ladder.
 
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