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Also if you think about it the stupid “Tuck Rule” if properly called Brady does win his first SB. Plus the Pats defense really carried those first 2 or 3 SB wins plus Brady and Pats will always have deflategate, spy gate and whatever cheating scandal hovering over there head. Pete Carroll & Dan Quinn gifting SB wins for Brady.

As Joe Montana said he didn’t need a stinking kicker to win games for him.
 
Crazy stat Tom Brady had the best record when trailing by 7 or more in the playoffs/Superbowl he was 10-11 until
Mahomes who is now 9-2. Now im a big believer everything will revert to the mean but as of today Mahomes in a class by himself when it comes to comebacks.
 
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Also if you think about it the stupid “Tuck Rule” if properly called Brady does win his first SB. Plus the Pats defense really carried those first 2 or 3 SB wins plus Brady and Pats will always have deflategate, spy gate and whatever cheating scandal hovering over there head. Pete Carroll & Dan Quinn gifting SB wins for Brady.

As Joe Montana said he didn’t need a stinking kicker to win games for him.

lol, you are really stretching...

Mahomes may get there eventually. 3 rings in 5 years is an excellent start. Although, Brady had 3 in four years. Let's see how well Patrick is playing in his 20th season.

Montana's playoff winning percentage was well below Brady's, though. That debate has been settled.
 
Brady started out as a bus driver; no one can really deny that
Mahomes was always the straw that stirred the drink

THAT is the big difference

which is why if he can keep this up for another five years he then becomes the GOAT.
 
Head to head in Super Bowl...Brady won! PM needs at least 4 more.
To be fair Brady is 0-2 vs Eli & 2-3 vs Peyton head to head nobody would argue those 2 are ahead of Brady because of their head to head match ups. IMO Mahomes need to get to atleast 5 keeping his current stat pace.
 
Why does he have to win 3 more (actually 4)? Bill Russell has 11 rings but Jordan with only 6 is better? Who’s better Dan Marino or Trent Dilfer or Joe Flacco or Jim Plunket? Rings are not and will not be the end all be all. Watch the games.
Why does he have to win 3 more (actually 4)? Bill Russell has 11 rings but Jordan with only 6 is better? Who’s better Dan Marino or Trent Dilfer or Joe Flacco or Jim Plunket? Rings are not and will not be the end all be all. Watch the games.
Aren’t you using Superbowls as criteria in their first 7 years to rank the GOAT? Curious why that is no longer acceptable criteria? Why aren’t you mentioning Lamar Jackson as the GOAT? He has the same number of regular season MVPs as Mahomes..guessing it’s those pesky suoerbowls! Check yourself
 
NE D won 1st one for sure pick 6 & also held greatest show on turf to 17 pts
NE D held NYG to 17 should of been enough to win
NE D held NYG to 21 should of been enough to win
NE D held LA Rams to 3
NE D & Carroll saved another
NE vs Atl game Kyle Shanahan made the 2nd worst call in SB history up 8 with under 4 minutes to play 1st & 10 at the NE 22 all he has to do is call 3 safe running plays & kick the fg but calls a pass Ryan takes a 12 yard sack then a hold penalty knocks them of of fg range.
TB D dominated Chiefs
Brady is great/clutch but the notion he should have more than 7 is crazy & lets be honest he had alot of good luck & huge help from his D and Special teams every Super Bowl
Lol
 
Crazy stat Tom Brady had the best record when trailing by 7 or more in the playoffs/Superbowl he was 10-11 until
Mahomes who is now 9-2. Now im a big believer everything will revert to the mean but as of today Mahomes in a class by himself when it comes to comebacks.
Lol
 
Brady started out as a bus driver; no one can really deny that
Mahomes was always the straw that stirred the drink

THAT is the big difference

which is why if he can keep this up for another five years he then becomes the GOAT.
You realize the bus driver is the leader. You wanted tobsay bus rider Im assuming.

But dumb comment
 
Aren’t you using Superbowls as criteria in their first 7 years to rank the GOAT? Curious why that is no longer acceptable criteria? Why aren’t you mentioning Lamar Jackson as the GOAT? He has the same number of regular season MVPs as Mahomes..guessing it’s those pesky suoerbowls! Check yourself
Please! Lamar Jackson? Stop it.

How many Super Bowl wins did Brady have after his first 7 years playing in the NFL? Winning rings is important BUT it’s not the end all be all. Go ask Bill Russell (you do know who Russell is). So compare there states. PM blows Brady away. More wins, more TDs, fewer interceptions, better winning %, better competition % and a better running QB. Where will PM be after 20 years who knows he may fall off the face of the earth.
It’s really not hard to understand.
 
Please! Lamar Jackson? Stop it.

How many Super Bowl wins did Brady have after his first 7 years playing in the NFL? Winning rings is important BUT it’s not the end all be all. Go ask Bill Russell (you do know who Russell is). So compare there states. PM blows Brady away. More wins, more TDs, fewer interceptions, better winning %, better competition % and a better running QB. Where will PM be after 20 years who knows he may fall off the face of the earth.
It’s really not hard to understand.
Yeah. It's way too early to start the GOAT debate with Mahomes. He has a lot of work to do

Just enjoy his game and time will tell if he gets there

He's not close right now
 
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Yeah. It's way too early to start the GOAT debate with Mahomes. He has a lot of work to do

Just enjoy his game and time will tell if he gets there

He's not close right now
Stop saying his not close. He is very very close if not already passed him by. Why can’t you understand and admit the Patrick ‘s first 7 years in the NFL are much better than TB’s. It’s has clear as day.

Now if PM never plays another snap or game ever again then TB will be the GOAT. But to be fair to PM he has a shit load of football ahead of him. He is basically just getting started, he is only 28 and he is already leaving every othe QB behind.
 
Stop saying his not close. He is very very close if not already passed him by. Why can’t you understand and admit the Patrick ‘s first 7 years in the NFL are much better than TB’s. It’s has clear as day.

Now if PM never plays another snap or game ever again then TB will be the GOAT. But to be fair to PM he has a shit load of football ahead of him. He is basically just getting started, he is only 28 and he is already leaving every othe QB behind.
Hes not close at all.

Whether hes ahead of him after 7 years is irrelevant. Who cares. Brady played another 16 years after his first 7 that was elite.

7 years is not close to 23.

Mahomes has a ton of work to do. Hes behind 4 super bowls, 1 mvp, about 450 TDs, about 60,000 yards, about 165 wins and many many more stats

Stop acting like its close because Mahomes has been elite for 7 years and is ahead of Bradys pace

All he has to do now is continue that for another 15 years or so to be like Brady

Just stop, it's embarrassing
 
TOM BRADY'S NFL RECORDS:


  • MOST PASS YARDS (89,214)
  • MOST PASS TD (649)
  • MOST PASS ATTEMPTS (12,050)
  • MOST COMPLETIONS (7,753)
  • MOST WINS AS STARTING QB (251)
  • MOST 3,000-YARD PASSING SEASONS (20)
  • MOST 20-PASS TD SEASONS (20)
  • MOST QB STARTS (333)
  • MOST GAMES BY A QB (335)
  • OLDEST QB TO START AND WIN A GAME (45)
  • OLDEST PLAYER TO PLAY IN AND WIN A SUPER BOWL (43)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL WINS (7)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL APPEARANCES (10)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL PASS YARDS (3,039)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL PASS TD (21)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL COMPLETIONS (277)
  • MOST SUPER BOWL PASS ATTEMPTS (421)
  • MOST PASS YARDS IN A SUPER BOWL (505)
  • MOST COMPLETIONS IN A SUPER BOWL (43)
  • MOST PASS ATTEMPTS IN A SUPER BOWL (62)
  • MOST PLAYOFF WINS (35)
  • MOST PLAYOFF GAMES (48)
  • MOST PLAYOFF PASS YARDS (13,400)
  • MOST PLAYOFF PASS TD (88)
  • MOST PLAYOFF COMPLETIONS (1,200)
  • MOST PLAYOFF PASS ATTEMPTS (1,921)
  • MOST GAMES WITH A TD PASS (291)
  • MOST GAMES WITH MULTIPLE PASS TD (204)
  • MOST GAMES WITH 3 PASS TD (104)
  • MOST GAMES WITH 4 PASS TD (39)
  • MOST GAMES WITH 300 PASS YARDS & 0 INT (62)
  • MOST GAMES WITH 3 PASS TD & 0 INT (68)
  • MOST GAMES WITH 4 PASS TD & 0 INT (28)
  • ONLY NFL PLAYER TO WIN A TITLE IN 3 DIFFERENT DECADES
  • THREW A TD PASS TO 96 DIFFERENT PLAYERS (REGULAR SEASON RECORD)
  • THREW A TD PASS TO 35 DIFFERENT PLAYERS
  • (POSTSEASON RECORD)
  • MOST PRO BOWL SELECTIONS (15)
  • 1 OF 2 QBS TO START AND WIN
  • A SUPER BOWL FOR MULTIPLE TEAMS
  • 1 OF 4 OBS TO DEFEAT ALL 32 NFL TEAMS
 
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QB’s who run in the NFL don’t seem to enjoy longevity, just ask RGIII
 
Stop saying his not close. He is very very close if not already passed him by. Why can’t you understand and admit the Patrick ‘s first 7 years in the NFL are much better than TB’s. It’s has clear as day.

Now if PM never plays another snap or game ever again then TB will be the GOAT. But to be fair to PM he has a shit load of football ahead of him. He is basically just getting started, he is only 28 and he is already leaving every othe QB behind.
Not even close. You been drinking with Mr. Mahomes?
 
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Please! Lamar Jackson? Stop it.

How many Super Bowl wins did Brady have after his first 7 years playing in the NFL? Winning rings is important BUT it’s not the end all be all. Go ask Bill Russell (you do know who Russell is). So compare there states. PM blows Brady away. More wins, more TDs, fewer interceptions, better winning %, better competition % and a better running QB. Where will PM be after 20 years who knows he may fall off the face of the earth.
It’s really not hard to understand.
Again- why do you use SuperBowls to justify Mahomes being the Goat, then bring up Marino? Talking out of both sides of your mouth, it’s thee criteria for being the greatest QB ever. Would you be having this conversation if Mahomes had 1 or SuperBowls? No, it’s the clear #1 criteria, hence come circle back when he matches TB.
 
Aren’t you using Superbowls as criteria in their first 7 years to rank the GOAT? Curious why that is no longer acceptable criteria? Why aren’t you mentioning Lamar Jackson as the GOAT? He has the same number of regular season MVPs as Mahomes..guessing it’s those pesky suoerbowls! Check yourself
If I'm going to compare Lamar to someone I'd say Dan Marino is a better comparison. Great stats, great performances. No Super Bowls.
 
TB's QB could of been anyone that day:

Mahomes was pressured on 29 of his 56 dropbacks on Sunday Night. Despite being pressured on over half of his dropbacks, the Bucs only blitzed 11% of the time, on six snaps
But who was the QB that day and who was the QB when KC played NE in the AFC championship? Im curious who was the QB
 
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If I'm going to compare Lamar to someone I'd say Dan Marino is a better comparison. Great stats, great performances. No Super Bowls.
Exactly.. SuperBowls are thee criteria for being the GOAT. So when Johnny Boy bitches about “let’s talk when Pat hits 7” he says “MJ was the GOAT with 6” all the while his whole basis for early GOAT comparisons are based on rings. Capeesh?
 
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Pete Carols brain fart call gifted Brady with one; you rather conveniently forgot that
That was no brain fart, it was a good call, the DB just made an amazing play.

And you seem to have forgotten Eli Manning getting out of the grasp of the defenders and making a miracle throw to Tyree who made a ridiculous helmet catch
 
That was no brain fart, it was a good call, the DB just made an amazing play.

And you seem to have forgotten Eli Manning getting out of the grasp of the defenders and making a miracle throw to Tyree who made a ridiculous helmet catch
While there are never 100% gurantee's in football the odds Beast mode scores with a couple cracks from the 2 were damn near 100%. If i was the coach i would have put the Super Bowl in his hands that guy in his prime was unstoppable.
 
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While there are never 100% gurantee's in football the odds Beast mode scores with a couple cracks from the 2 were damn near 100%. If i was the coach i would have put the Super Bowl in his hands that guy in his prime was unstoppable.
The failed extra point in this years Super Bowl should have signaled everyone that nothing is guaranteed

It was second down, and only 26 seconds left, and Seattle only had one timeout left
The handoff could’ve been fumbled, Beast Mode could’ve been stopped and Seattle would have had to use their last time out

A quick slant was a good call. If he catches it, it’s a touchdown. If it’s incomplete, it stops the clock and it’s third and one with 20 or so seconds left and Seattle still has their time out

Butler made an incredible play, especially with everyone, thinking that beast mode was going to get the ball. Butlet’s incredible anticipation and extraordinary reflexes won the game

Everybody’s a genius with 20-20 hindsight, especially those second guessing a highly successful coach
 
No doubt you’ve forgotten a lot!
Relatively speaking, with such an incredibly vast wealth of knowledge, forgetting a lot is just a drop in the bucket by your standards, and so much more knowledge and wisdom remains intact.

Whereas what I have forgotten mostly concerned azimuthal, magnetic and spin quantum numbers.

In terms of the scope of my extensive knowledge related to football, college and Pro, I haven’t forgotten that much, which is inversely indicative of how little you know about football.
 
lol, you are really stretching...

Mahomes may get there eventually. 3 rings in 5 years is an excellent start. Although, Brady had 3 in four years. Let's see how well Patrick is playing in his 20th season.

Montana's playoff winning percentage was well below Brady's, though. That debate has been settled.
No it hasn’t . Brady would not last 20 years in Montana’s NFL
 
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That was no brain fart, it was a good call, the DB just made an amazing play.

And you seem to have forgotten Eli Manning getting out of the grasp of the defenders and making a miracle throw to Tyree who made a ridiculous helmet catch
lol it was a horrible call. The Seahawks and Patriots players even said so in various interviews since
 
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