Students To Walk Out During Commencement

[hoopsstar12]

1. The most amazing church and grotto are right on campus. The homilies at mass are some of the best I have ever heard. When you start doubting ND and its Catholic ways, it would be a good time to go to the church and stroll around campus. It has been beneficial to me and the experience of grace is better than any game, event or class taken. Life is a choice.

 

[zonairish]

Ewwwww.... Lefty made products are the worst. You know that somebody got paid a higher minimum wage, to make an inferior product

Hope you get that going Zona! And I hope you're in good health my man. What's weather like out your way today? Would I be on the golf course right now?

Never a bad day in arizona

 

[Granite45]

1. When you start doubting ND and its Catholic ways,

People who doubt ND is Catholic have most often never spent much time there. Most commonly, it is rigid outsiders who complain of decisions made by ND.

 

[perseverare]

^

? what exactly are you worshipping?

 

[twalsh]

Not all Catholics hold every single belief of the Catholic Church.

As an example, I would guess that the overwhelming majority of Catholics personally have no issue with contraception.

 

[NDIRISH53]

College kids have leftist bull crap planted in their brains from the time they start watching cartoons. Our youth is being brainwashed by the media, Hollywood, and the education system. God bless these kids.

 

[Ara64]

Yes Liberty University is the same and holds to strict Evangelical Theology. Over 51,000 attended their commencement last Saturday morning. President Trump was warmly received by faculty and students. President Falwell and President Trump had many nice things to say about ND and their faith based mission.

 

[NDEwing18]

College kids have leftist bull crap planted in their brains from the time they start watching cartoons. Our youth is being brainwashed by the media, Hollywood, and the education system. God bless these kids.

Oh jeez......

 

[perseverare]

Not all Catholics hold every single belief of the Catholic Church.

well, apprently! call me Ishael, but the belief should preceed the believer and be a firm tenet from something or someone higher.

Now R.C.'s have a guideline/rule book; and according to those tenets the instruction comes from the highest power. Is it that some think that the higher power, who is the foundation for their belief, has erred?
God needs 'our' help to get it right? Really?

Maybe some tenet is just too hard to live by for some? Then they say 'change that moral or belief or tenet' to adapt it to our lifestyle. They become and are their own God and subsequently, there is no belief, rule, moral, or other tenet that they cannot alter as behavioral circumstance demands. They are then made 'moral' again! These cannot accept the notion that there are times or events that demand we go 'against self' and not to act on the 'me' principle. The end result is for them God is dead; and vice versa.

 

[NDIRISH53]

Oh jeez......

Am I wrong?

 

[IrishInOntario]

Never a bad day in arizona

Not surprising. I've spent only a few days I'm your state, a number of years ago and it was nice and toasty! I hope to make my way back out your way at some point.

 

[Irish Duck]

College kids have leftist bull crap planted in their brains from the time they start watching cartoons. Our youth is being brainwashed by the media, Hollywood, and the education system. God bless these kids.

Hey, you kids! Get off of my lawn

 

[NDEwing18]

Am I wrong?

I'm not concerned that Bugs Bunny is polluting the minds of young children with radical leftist ideas.

 

[NDEwing18]

well, apprently! call me Ishael, but the belief should preceed the believer and be a firm tenet from something or someone higher.

Now R.C.'s have a guideline/rule book; and according to those tenets the instruction comes from the highest power. Is it that some think that the higher power, who is the foundation for their belief, has erred?
God needs 'our' help to get it right? Really?

Maybe some tenet is just too hard to live by for some? Then they say 'change that moral or belief or tenet' to adapt it to our lifestyle. They become and are their own God and subsequently, there is no belief, rule, moral, or other tenet that they cannot alter as behavioral circumstance demands. They are then made 'moral' again! These cannot accept the notion that there are times or events that demand we go 'against self' and not to act on the 'me' principle. The end result is for them God is dead; and vice versa.

I know very few Catholics who agree with all teachings of the Catholic Church. The rabid pro-life ones are, to a great extent, not in agreement with the Church on many issues that people consider to be the "left".

 

[shabak]

It is just some students. Hell, if Trump was going to be the speaker, 3x as many would walk.

Hesburgh would not have put up.with this B.S.. Students who walk out should not get their degree. Very disrespectful.

 

[NyyorkerND]

perplexed

why enroll at a university that has stated values/dogma/principles or? than are 'yours'?

is to destroy it the purpose? deny others the right to a belief under the guise of 'rights for all'
fubar.

Perse you know not everyone that goes to ND does show becuase they want to go to a religous university. They go for the great education, play sports etc...

Hesburgh would not have put up.with this B.S.. Students who walk out should not get their degree. Very disrespectful.

Lol. Wow come on dude you serious, bc honestly it's not that serious, calling other peoples actions BS instead of attempting to understand why they did what they did and then have the discussion from that point would be the proper action, however that would be a waste of time bc your mind probably is already made up.

 

[Irish Duck]

I sure as hell didn't go there because of the University's "values/dogma/principles?" I went because it was nationally recognized as a great university and I knew that, by having it on my resume, it would open doors. It did. I got my first law job because of the ND connection. I enjoyed my time at ND despite what i considered to be overly conservative principles. That being said, some of my favorite professors were some of the most conservative people I have ever met. I learned that I can be civil and have productive and respectful discussions with people whose beliefs and values I don't agree with.

 

[NDIRISH53]

I'm not concerned that Bugs Bunny is polluting the minds of young children with radical leftist ideas.

Not talking about actual cartoons. I'm talking about celebt

Hey, you kids! Get off of my lawn

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lol. Great movie

 

[perseverare]

Perse you know not everyone that goes to ND does show becuase they want to go to a religous university. They go for the great education, play sports etc...


Lol. Wow come on dude you serious, bc honestly it's not that serious, calling other peoples actions BS instead of attempting to understand why they did what they did and then have the discussion from that point would be the proper action, however that would be a waste of time bc your mind probably is already made up.

but, why not find a place to get that education that does not require you to be a mal-content disruptive contrary cantankerous self imposing ogre?

surely there are many places to satisfy your mores or lack of?

these persons want a 'live-let live' policy; but just for themselves.
They willingly elected to go to a known private Catholic institution and then seek to challenge the right of that institution as it exists.

(now, no longer being R. Catholic nor an alum of ND, I have no dog in the fight EXCEPT religious freedom!)

 

[NDEwing18]

but, why not find a place to get that education that does not require you to be a mal-content disruptive contrary cantankerous self imposing ogre?

surely there are many places to satisfy your mores or lack of?

these persons want a 'live-let live' policy; but just for themselves.
They willingly elected to go to a known private Catholic institution and then seek to challenge the right of that institution as it exists.

(now, no longer being R. Catholic nor an alum of ND, I have no dog in the fight EXCEPT religious freedom!)

I don't think having a walkout during a commencement speech makes one a "mal-content disruptive contrary cantankerous self imposing ogre" (especially in connection with this quote: "Paul Browne, a spokesperson for Notre Dame, said walkout organizers reached out to police and administrators ahead of time to plan the quiet proceedings.")

I also don't think their statement is necessarily inconsistent with Catholicism.

 

[perseverare]

I don't think having a walkout during a commencement speech makes one a "mal-content disruptive contrary cantankerous self imposing ogre" (especially in connection with this quote: "Paul Browne, a spokesperson for Notre Dame, said walkout organizers reached out to police and administrators ahead of time to plan the quiet proceedings.")

I also don't think their statement is necessarily inconsistent with Catholicism.

are they protesting for rights or beliefs or religious tenets contrary to those established at the institution?
If the answer to this is yes, then they meet the criteria.

 

[NyyorkerND]

but, why not find a place to get that education that does not require you to be a mal-content disruptive contrary cantankerous self imposing ogre?

surely there are many places to satisfy your mores or lack of?

these persons want a 'live-let live' policy; but just for themselves.
They willingly elected to go to a known private Catholic institumm and then seek to challenge the right of that institution as it exists.

(now, no longer being R. Catholic nor an alum of ND, I have no dog in the fight EXCEPT religious freedom!)

I agree with that Perse, but that's only if they were challenging the fact of ND promoting it's Catholicism. Like if they were complaining about the word of life mural "Touchdown Jesus" then you would have a fair argument.

Let's not say they are challenging the institution I think that's unfair.

 

[coolirish9]

Why is free speech such a difficult concept to understand? It is a core belief and right of Americans. Your post is possible because of that belief and right. But frankly you are acting like a real snowflake.

you need to tell this to CNN, the mainstream media and Hollywood because they want to burn you at the stake if you use free speech and say anything about gays, lesbians and transgenders in a non positive way or say anything positive about trump

 

[NDEwing18]

are they protesting for rights or beliefs or religious tenets contrary to those established at the institution?
If the answer to this is yes, then they meet the criteria.

They are not.

 

[mbd11]

When a person (who is gay) arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say, 'Go away because you are homosexual,'" Pope Francis said.

No, He certainly would not. But He would tell him to "Go, and sin no more." Which means no longer practicing homosexuality.

 

[mbd11]

While I don't approve of what that group of about 75 people is doing, it's a free country, so they can walk out if they want.

 

[TOMMY_23]

I personally do not care and cannot answer for others. However, I think it is rude to walk out on a speaker as appropriate as the president or vice president

Ewing is just making stuff up. Or else he can pull up posts from 2009 to prove he's not a snowflake.

I personally didn't agree with Obama's policies but I never complained about him speaking at ND. Everyone is allowed to speak their mind. Liberals do not believe in that unless they approve of what you're saying.

 

[TOMMY_23]

While I don't approve of what that group of about 75 people is doing, it's a free country, so they can walk out if they want.

Agreed. They are showing they have no class though.

 

[NDEwing18]

Ewing is just making stuff up. Or else he can pull up posts from 2009 to prove he's not a snowflake.

I personally didn't agree with Obama's policies but I never complained about him speaking at ND. Everyone is allowed to speak their mind. Liberals do not believe in that unless they approve of what you're saying.

What am I making up?

 

[IRISHJD98]

I'm not concerned that Bugs Bunny is polluting the minds of young children with radical leftist ideas.

Yeah, but I'd keep an eye on that Elmer Fudd dude.

 

[irishalice]

Yeah, but I'd keep an eye on that Elmer Fudd dude.

Yeah, that Fudd dude is probably a peeper!

 

[NDEwing18]

Yeah, but I'd keep an eye on that Elmer Fudd dude.

Card-carrying NRA member.

 

[perseverare]

While I don't approve of what that group of about 75 people is doing, it's a free country, so they can walk out if they want.

and, they should keep on walking....

 

[echowaker]

and, they should keep on walking....

Why are you so offended by folks exercising their rights ? If they feel so strongly so be it. It's peaceful and doesn't t hurt anyone. Talk about " snowflakes "...

 

[SeanPol355]

Yes, I would have and I would have disapproved of any Republican attempt of a coup to take him down less than 200 days into his term.

Nobody I know is calling for a coup. Why should they? Trump is his own worst enemy. He is self-destructing every time he opens his mouth or tweets. When the Republicans in Congress turn on Trump, Pence will be President. Maybe the ND Administration was prescient in inviting the VP to speak.

 

[Granite45]

College kids have leftist bull crap planted in their brains from the time they start watching cartoons. Our youth is being brainwashed by the media, Hollywood, and the education system. God bless these kids.

Nonsense. This is flat-earth kind of thinking.

If this were true, would there be so many science-deniers about evolution, climate change, and vaccinations.

Do you accuse churches, the military, and other institutions of indoctrination as well?

 

[Granite45]

Am I wrong?

Yes.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Am I wrong?

They have conservative crap pounded into their heads as well.

 

[irishalice]

Nobody I know is calling for a coup. Why should they? Trump is his own worst enemy. He is self-destructing every time he opens his mouth or tweets. When the Republicans in Congress turn on Trump, Pence will be President. Maybe the ND Administration was prescient in inviting the VP to speak.

I disagree, think the demos have been out to take him down since learning the results of election day.

Yes, the man sticks his foot in his mouth but how criminal is that? Is there even any credible evidence that man has done anything impeachable except in eyes of his enemies?

This graduation walkout does the administration have to give approval? Why not another venue for the students to protest?

 

[Bodizephax]

They have conservative crap pounded into their heads as well.

Love of country is only conservative?