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Path to Playoffs

I don't have a reason to believe they wouldn't have been in. Since the committee is in its second year of existence, I think it's folly to assume that the committee is going to view things the same lazy way that some sportswriters and coaches have in the past.

Do you really think a 12-1 LSU team is going to be ranked behind an 11-1 Notre Dame team in the committee's final rankings? I don't.
how does lsu get to 12-1 is the more important question. if they lose in the regular season they won't get to 13 games. if they lose the sec championship game they'll certainly drop.
 
I'm not assuming anything just hoping along with other real ND fans that ND gets in
let me ask you this. if nd dropped in the rankings when they lost why wouldn't other teams ?if nd and Stanford both win out until they meet they'll both likely be ranked in the top 6. the winner has a great chance at the playoff.
 
Exactly. PLus, Iowa and Ok State are undefeated and can easily leapfrog us.
Iowa will get beat in Big Ten Championship game, if not before.
Oklahoma State still plays Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma. They'll
lose at least two and probably all three of those.
 
how does lsu get to 12-1 is the more important question. if they lose in the regular season they won't get to 13 games. if they lose the sec championship game they'll certainly drop.

My assumption is that they would lose a regular season game, but still possibly win a tiebreaker for the division and go on and win the conference championship. You can substitute a 12-1 Alabama (or Florida) with the same reasoning.
 
The sports press is really hyping up Stanford this year. If the Irish were to win out and beat a 10 and 1 Stanford team who goes on win the Pac12 Championship game the next week the Irish will be in the playoff imo.

I don't think you can make that determination without knowing the rest of the college football landscape.
 
Not at all. If the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC all have undefeated team. E but the SEC champion is 12-1, your conclusion is that ND would be in the playoff before the 12-1 SEC champion. This is unrealistic and simplistic thinking.
In this scenario ND's one loss would be to an defeated Clemson ranked in the top 3. The SEC champ's one loss would be to a lesser ranked team with at least one loss. No reason the Irish would not be picked ahead of the SEC champ.
 
In this scenario ND's one loss would be to an defeated Clemson ranked in the top 3. The SEC champ's one loss would be to a lesser ranked team with at least one loss. No reason the Irish would not be picked ahead of the SEC champ.

Yes there would be. It's the SEC.

Analysis goes deeper than "who had the better loss?".
 
That is a great argument. Moron.

It's a much better argument than yours. You're looking at who has the "better loss". That's one part of the equation, but not the whole equation.

If you think a 12-1 SEC champion is being beaten out for the playoff by a 11-1 ND, you're an idiot.
 
I think for the SEC to get left out, it needs to be Ole Miss running the table (they control their own destiny) or a 2-loss East team pulling the upset in the SECCG. I don't see a scenario where 1-loss ND trumps 1-loss SEC champ. Our loss might be better, but they likely have more quality wins.
 
I think for the SEC to get left out, it needs to be Ole Miss running the table (they control their own destiny) or a 2-loss East team pulling the upset in the SECCG. I don't see a scenario where 1-loss ND trumps 1-loss SEC champ. Our loss might be better, but they likely have more quality wins.

Exactly. A two-loss SEC team may fall behind Notre Dame, but not a one-loss SEC team. Fair or unfair, the perception of the SEC is that it's the strongest conference in the country. I can't imagine a realistic scenario where a Notre Dame team that has one fewer win than a one-loss SEC champion would be elevated over the SEC champion.
 
The problem is, and always will be, conference teams play 13 games, the last against a top conference opponent in the championship game. that makes it extremely hard for a one loss ND team to make it. Possible but very hard.
 
Are you even a Irish fan? I have never seen you write anything positive about the Notre Dame football team. Just wondering.

Nothing I've said in this thread is negative about Notre Dame. It's realistic.

I'm very much a Notre Dame fan. I just don't consider myself a fanboy as much as some of the people here who only see things in blue, green and gold.
 
Anything can happen - IU played OSU to the last snap, TCU won on a prayer vs TT, Ole Miss stunned Bama - so of course we need to win out, and will still need the benefit of an upset or two and the favorable view of the committee

Likely scenario that Big and SEC get spots. Clemson is a lock unless they lose. Big 12 is dicey and we get nod over Pac 12 by beating Stanford.

good to still be in the discussion. We are sitting more favorable than Ohio State was this time one year ago

Beating a PAC 12 conference champion Stanford would knock the PAC 12 out, but not if Utah wins out.
 
Nothing I've said in this thread is negative about Notre Dame. It's realistic.

I'm very much a Notre Dame fan. I just don't consider myself a fanboy as much as some of the people here who only see things in blue, green and gold.

Imagine fans seeing the positives in the team they root for -- what a novel concept .
 
Imagine fans seeing the positives in the team they root for -- what a novel concept .

Nothing wrong about that at all. There are a significant number of people, though, who only see the positives in the team they root for. I don't consider that to be a particularly intelligent way to support a team.
 
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