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Pat Creadon's documentary

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Did anyone else watch his story of the1988 classic FB game between ND and Miami on ESPN tonight? I thought it was excellent. There were some tidbits I didn't know or forgot. Anyway, great story. I hope it's repeated.
 
People should be reminded that even then some of the same "mantra" was spewed then as it is today ..... Academic standards are too high ..... football at ND is over .... not true

BS that Miami whines about the Gary fumble .... arguably a bad call .... but nobody wants to talk about Chudzinski catching a pass .... getting 2 feet down ..... and getting drilled by Stonebreaker as he tries to turn upfield .... clearly a fumble that was ruled an inc pass .... this before the half that ended in a TD for Miami ..... phhttt ..... whatever
 
People should be reminded that even then some of the same "mantra" was spewed then as it is today ..... Academic standards are too high ..... football at ND is over .... not true

BS that Miami whines about the Gary fumble .... arguably a bad call .... but nobody wants to talk about Chudzinski catching a pass .... getting 2 feet down ..... and getting drilled by Stonebreaker as he tries to turn upfield .... clearly a fumble that was ruled an inc pass .... this before the half that ended in a TD for Miami ..... phhttt ..... whatever
Great post Buguit. That was a terrible call that gave Miami halftime momentum. Love the post!
 
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That documentary was like Christmas coming early for me ... as someone who lived it as a student with some friends on the team this was the high point of my sports fandom. This show was so well done and the shirt angle was great as truly they did mint the phrase Catholics vs Convicts which perfectly embodied the increasingly volatile relationship between these two schools.
Jimmy Johnson, though a shiner, was and always has been a good sport about this rivalry. I thought I knew everything there was to know about this game, team and season but a few new things for me in this show.
We all yearn for the next one but still fun to celebrate the last one.
 
People should be reminded that even then some of the same "mantra" was spewed then as it is today ..... Academic standards are too high ..... football at ND is over .... not true

BS that Miami whines about the Gary fumble .... arguably a bad call .... but nobody wants to talk about Chudzinski catching a pass .... getting 2 feet down ..... and getting drilled by Stonebreaker as he tries to turn upfield .... clearly a fumble that was ruled an inc pass .... this before the half that ended in a TD for Miami ..... phhttt ..... whatever

Exactly right! That was as big a play as as any in during that game. It was clear a fumble, yet never gets mentioned.
 
That documentary was like Christmas coming early for me ... as someone who lived it as a student with some friends on the team this was the high point of my sports fandom. This show was so well done and the shirt angle was great as truly they did mint the phrase Catholics vs Convicts which perfectly embodied the increasingly volatile relationship between these two schools.
Jimmy Johnson, though a shiner, was and always has been a good sport about this rivalry. I thought I knew everything there was to know about this game, team and season but a few new things for me in this show.
We all yearn for the next one but still fun to celebrate the last one.

Yep, it was the best game I ever attended. I was a freshman at ND at the time---the campus was absolutely electric in the days leading up to the game. In some ways it seems like yesterday. In other ways it seems like centuries ago.
 
It also exposed that the catch that put Miami within one point was indeed a dropped pass. Even Steve Walsh did not realize this until the show. Same deal with JJ and a few other Canes. There should have never been a two point play. It should have been ND 31 Miami 24
 
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Did anyone else watch his story of the1988 classic FB game between ND and Miami on ESPN tonight? I thought it was excellent. There were some tidbits I didn't know or forgot. Anyway, great story. I hope it's repeated.


Missed it. Anyone know if it will be shown more than once?
 
It also exposed that the catch that put Miami within one point was indeed a dropped pass. Even Steve Walsh did not realize this until the show. Same deal with JJ and a few other Canes. There should have never been a two point play. It should have been ND 31 Miami 24

Possibly, but also go back a series or 2, and Gary's "fumble" -- I think, in today's environment, that get's overturned, now, you have Miami on the doorstep to tie it.

So many "what if's" to play with in this game.
 
I have it on DVR, haven't watched it yet. Probably the most memorable game I've attended at ND. It was an unusually warm and sunny day for South Bend in mid October. We had our 8 month old with us (who just got married this past summer) and we learned about 45 minutes before game time that she needed a ticket. Panic ensued, but one of my class of '80 buddies had an extra, and solved that. We were in the south end zone, kind of low, the Gary fumble/non-fumble was right in front of us. As was the Terrell pass break up at the end. Total euphoria.
 
I have it on DVR, haven't watched it yet. Probably the most memorable game I've attended at ND. It was an unusually warm and sunny day for South Bend in mid October. We had our 8 month old with us (who just got married this past summer) and we learned about 45 minutes before game time that she needed a ticket. Panic ensued, but one of my class of '80 buddies had an extra, and solved that. We were in the south end zone, kind of low, the Gary fumble/non-fumble was right in front of us. As was the Terrell pass break up at the end. Total euphoria.
Two things....
1. Since you haven't watched it yet.....spoiler alert - ND wins the game!!!
2. You took an 8 month old to a football game??
 
Two things....
1. Since you haven't watched it yet.....spoiler alert - ND wins the game!!!
2. You took an 8 month old to a football game??
Sure, she went again the next year to the classic 1989 USC game as a 20 month old. By the next season her sister was born, and that ended that streak.
 
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I enjoyed it in '88 and I enjoyed it even more Saturday night. I still have it recorded and will probably watch it a few more times. I also have the shirt somewhere. I've got to find it!:)
 
I remember the game live, and I loved watching the 30 for 30. Two big missed calls (Gary fumble that wasn't and the TD catch that wasn't), evened out. And in watching the show I will still never forgive or respect Jimmy Johnson for what he did to Gerry Faust.
 
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I streamed it from WatchESPN last night. I'm sure it'll eventually be on Netflix too. Most of the 30-for-30 shows have ended up there.

Yes, I eventually figured out how to find it on ESPN website. A very good program.
 
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