Unfortunately, well past "turning" into a shit show. The first year of NIL was turning. Now it's fully fledged shit show, but yeah it will still get worse.
Well.. while you are right, You cant deny the current situation game him an easy excuse.
If the NCAA wanted to simply reward anyone in my family with a fully paid athletic scholarship including room and board for 4-5 years, and zero college debt when you are finished, I would ask where do we sign up.
That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The whole thing began when scholarship athletes wanted to have the same opportunities as any other student on full scholarship who could benefit from their name, image, likeness and skills. A girl I knew at MSU was on a music scholarship. She posed for the " Girls of the Big Ten " issue of Playboy magazine and was paid pretty well for it. An athlete back then would have not been permitted to benefit from a similar arrangement. That's just one of many examples. The toothpaste is out of the tube. Collective bargaining is the only rational solution.
Yeah...that a boy....
You mean like a scholarship?
Probably not that simple. However , they want a pay day and feel they are entitled to make as much as they can. Ok. That’s fine. But you sign an agreement and whatever is in it you as a player have to adhere to it. No exceptions. Scholarships mean nothing. They aren’t a binding agreement. It just seems to me the players want whatever they can get with no restrictions. Professional players don’t even get that.
Sorry but this is nothing like "opportunities available to other students.". The players' earnings value is 100% derived from their football play and not available to any other student.
This is the Supreme Courts messThey wanted it....they got it.
This is such a joke.....
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Some players are making hand over fist through the productions of other player
There needs to be structure. Currently there are no contracts, and they can hit the portal every year if they want. College athletics needs contracts which would limit transfers.
Do you hear wtf you're saying? You're actually making a claim on a given player's NIL money, and because football is a team sport, every individual player owes some of their success to his teammates. And presumably, by this truly perverse reasoning, he should be bound to share some of that money with them? With the OL, and the OL should all get their cut?
True. All I am saying is that if these kids coming out of high school want to be paid , and they do, that’s fine. Negotiate a contract with the school you want to go to. Then, stick to whatever deal is signed. These kids are literally jumping from school to school trying to make as much money as they can get. You can’t do that in the NFL.
Who would of ever thought this is what college football would become, and the big winners are the blood sucking lawyers, the big losers are the fan base
So want the players to sign contracts that include terms that would induce them to or prohibit them from transferring so flippantly and frequently. Which is seemingly possible, if the players were willing to agree to that, that doesn't appear to be the industry standard. I think the arrangements are that you sign monthly contracts, and if the players do bolt, they can just not be renewed, and nobody loses any money. Rather than getting the whole million all at once or whatever, maybe they get a signing bonus. I think that's how they might do it in European soccer, they're always talking about their weekly wages. And they get a pay check essentially, instead of a guaranteed lump sum or something.
I’m not disagreeing with the logic in your statement. I’m all for the free market. But again, no professional athlete can go from team to team year after year. They negotiate and sign a contract. Coaches do the same. So why should college kids , who think they are entitled to be paid , be allowed to go from school to school without restrictions ? Think about applying the same set up to the NFL. Players should be able to go to any team they like or the highest bidder every year. No restrictions. Hey that’s the free market right ? Buffalo pays Allen 15 million for one year. But wait, the Raiders just said play for us and you’ll make 20 million. See where I am going with this ? I know it probably will never happen. But in theory it could. All NFL players have to do is stick together and only sign one year deals if they choose and each year go to the highest bidder.
You say you get the logic, but you refuse to accept the reality. And we're just going to have to by fiat restrict those freedoms, as unpleasant as that may be, when the truth is there's no mechanism for that. The NCAA would definitely do that if they could but they can't, and the courts slap them down. This is not what the NCAA wants, but they have no choice. They have to collectively bargain with the players and they don't want to do that, and that's why it's a free for all.
The reality is the inmates are running the asylum.
Do you hear yourself?
I'm going to ask you something straight the F up, do you think skill position players should be forced, legally forced to share their money with the OL? You socialist mothereffer. I want a straight answer. Yes or no answer, just like they do on Capitol Hill when they're showboating for the cameras.
I'll take that as a 'yes', they should be forced to. And it is true, that rather than chattel slavery, the great social iniquity of the past that the involuntary amateurism of the NCAA resembles is communism more than slavery. And I never took you for a communist. But, you know, people surprise you....
More nonsense.
This poster is bizarre.
Well I will say this. It will not be to long before players are paid directly from the schools. That is what the end game is. A player will say, “ you want me to play for your school ? What are you going to pay me ? “ That is where this is headed. You’ll end up with two leagues. One for student athletes the other for pay for play. Essentially those “ pay for play” athletes will be employed by the school for their services. Sort of like a minor league.
Yeah, that's precisely what it will be, but it won't be a 'minor league'. CFB is the #2 spectator sport, bigger than the NBA or MLB. In popularity and revenue and everything. And it's been that way for a long time. This is not a minor league sport. It's age-specific at most. Other than that it's big time professional spectator sports, where they charge for admission, and they charge a lot. You watch it on TV, you buy your ND t shirt, and your ND coffee mug, and your EA sports CFB for playstation every year a new version. All of it. There's billions being made so let's cut the bullshit. They're finally getting their due, and it's going to happen. And it won't be a minor league, it's as big as professional sports gets anywhere in the world.
Why would all the players want to if only a minority will be making the the big money?
