Out coached NOT Outplayed
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Kind of.....I think he outcoached himself with puliing the best player on the team for two series
I think it was both. ND came out with a great game plan, similar to last year at Stanford, and ran the ball down the Cardinal's throat. Pistol was working early for ND and they should not have gotten away from it. Defensively, I don't think ND was outcoached at all. I think their kids played like warriors. Remember, 9 of the 17 Stanford points were given up by the ND offense.
I think Kizer played poorly for a stretch and he has a tendency to hang in the pocket too long. He still won't check a ball down to a running back, something he better learn if he's ever going to play NFL football.
Stanford certainly made better half time adjustments, and Solomon Thomas and Jarron Jones were the two best players on the field for most of the night.
I think Kizer played poorly for a stretch and he has a tendency to hang in the pocket too long. He still won't check a ball down to a running back, something he better learn if he's ever going to play NFL football.
Stanford certainly made better half time adjustments, and Solomon Thomas and Jarron Jones were the two best players on the field for most of the night.
I think Kizer played poorly for a stretch and he has a tendency to hang in the pocket too long. He still won't check a ball down to a running back, something he better learn if he's ever going to play NFL football.
This is DK's biggest problem, IMO. Not every pass has to be 20-30 yards. Sometime a 4-5 yard pass will work. Of course it does depend on the play called.
This is DK's biggest problem, IMO. Not every pass has to be 20-30 yards. Sometime a 4-5 yard pass will work. Of course it does depend on the play called.
just will say this...how the eff do you lose to a mediocre team w/out their best player at home?
Not to mention your defense that has looked terrible all year holds them to one TD and forced 3 turnovers. Going into tonight if you told me that is what the defense would do I would have said Irish victory no question.
ND refuses to come out to WIN in the 2nd half this season. Crazy.
Sure Coaching......but Kizer looked in a trance.....horrible pocket presence.....but OL gave neither him or MZ any time....horrible. Then there were a few drops. D played okay....Offense way off track.
Painful to watch.........ugh.
Sure Coaching......but Kizer looked in a trance.....horrible pocket presence.....but OL gave neither him or MZ any time....horrible. Then there were a few drops. D played okay....Offense way off track.
Painful to watch.........ugh.
Stop....
As much as I plead for the defense to improve...and while it's wasn't swiss cheese tonight...
Please remember Stanford drove the ball most of the night on our defense.
It was turnovers, a clank off the upright, that put a different perspective on this game.
We DID NOT STOP Stanford
Great points, especially about Kizer. He seems to have high confidence in OL so he does stay longer than ideal on some plays.
ND offense: 10 points
Stanford offense: 8 points
Stanford defense: 9 points
The horse shit spinning of the BK apologists will never cease.
Seriously..
Which coach tied their shoes the fastest tonight.
You think that a defense that allowed 8 points (11 had the field goal gone through) today was outcoached? Give me a break. Look across the country at how many quality defenses gave up considerably more than 8 points today.... Each week since VanGorder's dismissal a defenses featuring a rotation of 8 freshman has played well enough to win. They'be surrendered a combined 11 points in two weeks and lost both games. 5.5 points allowed over 2 games and we're going to complain about the friggen defense? Kids are getting better on that side of the ball each week. Are we going to be the 85 Bears overnight after 3 years under VanGorder? No. But you can't complain about the job Mike Elston and Greg have done since taking over. They've been in charge for 3 weeks. In that time they've surrendered 51 points. 17 PPG is respectable given where ND was.
Blame the coaches all you want. Blame the offense all you want... The defense caused 3 turnovers tonight and registered more sacks in one game than it had in the entire season combined before tonight. They did their job.
Sorry, but ALL of Kelly's teams have been painful to watch! Sure, he's won his fair share of games, but it's with a sissy-finesse offense. NO self-respecting ND fan would or should accept that!
Against that team this year...starting tail back out...
And you forget the gifts Standford gave us in the turnovers while driving.
They drove all over us.
Period.
Kelly has 2 wks now to prepare for UM. Does anyone really think the defense will hold a good qb to four touchdowns or less? ND should never have a team that has no chance to win a game against a team on their schedule. Kelly needs to go.
IIO
Stanford was w/o it's best player and fill almost every key position on the offense
The U game will be a better gauge
what is indisputable: 2-5 everything else is opinion. the question is which opinion matters!
