That is the opposite of true. Notre Dame found out after the fact that the players should have been ineligible. Michigan's coaches intentionally cheated thus making their program illegal.
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Members of Notre Dame knew the players were ineligible. The entire university does not have to know. It wasn't that they "should have been ineligible". It was that they were ineligible. The NCAA is very clear on that matter. Ineligible players participating equals a vacating of any wins that may result.
Who knew? Maybe if you had evidence the coaches knew the players were ineligible and played them anyway. That's the opposite of the Michigan cheating, which came from the coaches and was their intended strategy.
The players themselves and the student tutor(s) who helped them cheat.
Ineligible players participating in a game for whatever reason results in any win being vacated. There are no rationalizations that change that.
You implied that the coaches and the administration knew, now you’re saying it was just the players.
You’re also ignoring the details behind the ruling that declared them ineligible, a spurious and absurd ruling by the NCAA
If the coaches didn’t know, how can there be institutional culpability ?
Give that’s some thought, you moron
Because obviously, as far as the NCAA is concerned, the players and tutors themselves are part of the institution when it comes to this infraction.
You are not a lawyer. Stop pretending to be one.
.750 vs other Blue Bloods in 2024. And a better overall winning percentage than ND.
Hail.
No, you’re wrong again, the players are absolutely NOT considered to be employees or representatives of the institution. They bear no institutional responsibility.
Ditto the tutor.
The NCAA erred and made a horrible decision when they claimed that the tutor, a student, who was not paid by Notre Dame, was deemed to be a representative and/or an employee of Notre Dame.
The ruling was horrendous, and the underlying problem with the ruling was that Father Jenkins made a catastrophic decision when he agreed, in advance of the investigation, to automatically abide by whatever decision the NCAA made.
Hence, the university could not appeal the decision, which is what any prudent person would have done.
I encouraged members of the Board of trustees to litigate the matter, but because of Father Jenkins’s position and decision, the university begrudgingly accepted the NCAA‘s horrendous ruling.
I may not have been approved by the bar ………yet, ……,but I did stay at the Holiday Inn Express the other night !
I’ve been tangently involved so I know far more about this case than you do.
And yet you don't understand the basic concept of, in the event of an ineligible player participating, any resulting win(s) are ALWAYS vacated.
And you don’t understand that neither the coaches nor the administration knew that he was ineligible until AFTER the NCAA ruled that he was ineligible
So what? He was ineligible and he played.
The coaches and administration knowing or not knowing does not matter. Ineligible player(s) participating equals automatic vacating of wins. It is just that simple.
I'd rather the 8 National Championships to 2.5
But that's just me....
I think 8 of your wins was before the forward pass was invented LOL
8 - 2.5
I'd rather have 25 wins than only 17. And a better all time winning percentage. And two NCs since ND's last.
8 - 2.5
You can't come back from that. There's nothing you can say. Game. Set. Match.
8 - 2.5
The championship of The Associated Press is not the only championship. College football started long before the AP decided to declare their champion. And Michigan has three AP championships. That is, if you don't count the final post bowl AP vote of 1947. If you did, then we have four.
Why do some Big 10 Football fans hang out here and troll this Forum?
Why?
Why?
I have been here for years. Rivals is an open message board. If you want a message board for ND fans only, you should go try and post on Rock's House.
I am only responding to some ND fans' sh*t posting. Don't sh*t post about Michigan, and you won't have to read my responses.
I'd rather the National Championships since that's why you play the games.
Michigan is 1 and 3 vs Utah so Utah > Michigan ?
Idiot 🤣
