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Well, I don’t day trade…I simply invest in the market. As for the Fed., they engineered a soft landing of sorts that most experts believed was not possible. The predicted recession did not result from the higher interest rates and money tightening they orchestrated. Most economist declared victory, but I’m not inclined to declare a Fed victory or sustained soft landing until inflation is brought more under control, and a recession avoided. While the recession part has been avoided thus far, Consumer spending continues to exceed expectations, and the rate of inflation remains around 3.2%, well above the target rate of 2%. Cutting interest rates will only exacerbate the rate of inflation. I think this Fed has done a very good job thus far reigning in inflation that was in excess of 8% with all the damn Federal spending, while avoiding a recession, but the job is not yet complete.

As for Yellen’s China experience, this was covered by mainstream media…CNN and Washington Post, among others. She ate a “magic mushroom” as part of the meal served at a high end restaurant. If properly prepared, these have zero affects, and she and others in the party experienced zero affects.

DIP, we both love ND football, but we see politics and world events through a different lens. And that’s OK. As a lifelong Republican, I no longer recognize my Party and have recently changed to independent. Republican leaders that I admire are now called RINOS. Happy to exchange thoughts and opinions off topic like the stock market, but these invariably carry political overtones, and wildly different views; and those views are better suited for political oriented blogs. I rather talk ND football.
as regards the mushroom one has to wonder being as they are in China and I would put nothing past that government
As regards inflation I think the 2% thing should not be considered to have been written by the finger of god on stone tablets. It was promulgated back in the late 70's and a lot has changed since then

As regards RINO's I think anyone who does not oppose the Liberal Agenda of spend and nothing else; tax and nothing else; and trying to cram their personal social agenda down everyones throats is a RINO
 
Silver seems to be the sexy buy at this time. Did likewise. As for the Fed(?), Hmm, mama r’s toy?
My first ever investment was in silver almost fifty years ago. I didn’t buy it as a hedge against inflation, but rather as a pure commodity play where industrial demands supposedly outstripped available supply, etc…. Newly married and two years into my first post college job, I invested $2500. Received these beautiful certificates of silver bars purchased in my name, and held in this huge vault. Price went up around 40%, and when investors sought to sell for a profit, it became known that the CEO of this company only purchased about 50% of the investment money received, and pocketed the other 50% for personal use and gain. Turned out to be an organized crime scam, and the FBI got heavily involved. The CEO was killed, and they never found out by who. They sized assets all over the world that this guy had purchased. As an investor, I received communications every few months on new assets discovered and seized. It was fascinating reading, and I ended up getting about $2000 of my investment back through these efforts. Haven’t been a buyer of Gold or Silver since, other than buying gold coins individually when the prices are attractive.
 
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Well, I don’t day trade…I simply invest in the market. As for the Fed., they engineered a soft landing of sorts that most experts believed was not possible. The predicted recession did not result from the higher interest rates and money tightening they orchestrated. Most economist declared victory, but I’m not inclined to declare a Fed victory or sustained soft landing until inflation is brought more under control, and a recession avoided. While the recession part has been avoided thus far, Consumer spending continues to exceed expectations, and the rate of inflation remains around 3.2%, well above the target rate of 2%. Cutting interest rates will only exacerbate the rate of inflation. I think this Fed has done a very good job thus far reigning in inflation that was in excess of 8% with all the damn Federal spending, while avoiding a recession, but the job is not yet complete.

As for Yellen’s China experience, this was covered by mainstream media…CNN and Washington Post, among others. She ate a “magic mushroom” as part of the meal served at a high end restaurant. If properly prepared, these have zero affects, and she and others in the party experienced zero affects.

DIP, we both love ND football, but we see poIlitics and world events through a different lens. And that’s OK. As a lifelong Republican, I no longer recognize my Party and have recently changed to independent. Republican leaders that I admire are now called RINOS. Happy to exchange thoughts and opinions off topic like the stock market, but these invariably carry political overtones, and wildly different views; and those views are better suited for political oriented blogs. I rather talk ND football.
Well i do day trade and I am very aware of the average volatility so I can't expect you to see the blatant manipulations that occurs that's out of the norm. The central banks view points from members are more than ever given
I try to keep political points out of this conversation which is difficult considering the role of the government and how they align with the central banks play into it.
It was my bad bringing the magic mushroom comments because I didn't see this as political but as the sec of treasury being feed something that will alter her decision making.
Whether her statement of "no effect" are true are speculative at best.
I'm not going to comment on the reason you're an independent, other than it's the same reason I am though the reasoning are different, and as independents .......well, as I stated I'm going to try to keep politics out of it
 
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My first ever investment was in silver almost fifty years ago. I didn’t buy it as a hedge against inflation, but rather as a pure commodity play where industrial demands supposedly outstripped available supply, etc…. Newly married and two years into my first post college job, I invested $2500. Received these beautiful certificates of silver bars purchased in my name, and held in this huge vault. Price went up around 40%, and when investors sought to sell for a profit, it became known that the CEO of this company only purchased about 50% of the investment money received, and pocketed the other 50% for personal use and gain. Turned out to be an organized crime scam, and the FBI got heavily involved. The CEO was killed, and they never found out by who. They sized assets all over the world that this guy had purchased. As an investor, I received communications every few months on new assets discovered and seized. It was fascinating reading, and I ended up getting about $2000 of my investment back through these efforts. Haven’t been a buyer of Gold or Silver since, other than buying gold coins individually when the prices are attractive.
My wife inherited 5 silver bars just like that from her father.......I wonder if they are the same bars?
 
Many claim Gold will always matter. As long as their is a financial system that is true. But if things go to hell and we are in a barter economy then its not gong to be worth much.
Food and drugs and fuel and things like that will be worth a lot more.

As investment? Do not really see it.
 
Many claim Gold will always matter. As long as their is a financial system that is true. But if things go to hell and we are in a barter economy then its not gong to be worth much.
Food and drugs and fuel and things like that will be worth a lot more.

As investment? Do not really see it.
We still barter in Nebraska.
Example I will haul grain on a couple weekends for a large amount of fresh vegetables, other commodities
 
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You do know that the military, in and pit of uniform, is a government job that doesn't make anything, yes? So while your disparaging government employees, take a moment and think on that. And I'm certain you know that most private sector jobs don't make anything as well; you know that to, yes?
We have a choice to purchase private sector goods/services. The profitable companies will continue the others will fail and cease to exist. Do government organizations have the same scorecard to measure success/failure? The growth in government jobs is not the military. The military is having a tough time recruiting new members.
 
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We have a choice to purchase private sector goods/services. The profitable companies will continue the others will fail and cease to exist. Do government organizations have the same scorecard to measure success/failure? The growth in government jobs is not the military. The military is having a tough time recruiting new members.
This is true
The bureaucracy is growing (just look what the irs done)
The government has its favorites in the private sector (aka to big to fail)
All banks were made to implement standards to force them to give major loans to people who didn't even qualify, and then the government wrote a bill to bail them out with the caveat for future loan to have PMI (private mortgage insurance) unless to put down 20%.....what a freaking scam. It's hard to believe this is legal.
They create the problem just to shake people down.
Chevy should of failed and I love Chevy, but bad business decisions by inept management got bailout with golden parachutes to the bad management
 
Many claim Gold will always matter. As long as their is a financial system that is true. But if things go to hell and we are in a barter economy then its not gong to be worth much.
Food and drugs and fuel and things like that will be worth a lot more.

As investment? Do not really see it.
There has never been a time when people threw away gold as of no worth. To my knowledge, gold has alway been worth something.
 
There has never been a time when people threw away gold as of no worth. To my knowledge, gold has alway been worth something.
and so? I am saying that if you end up with a barter economy its not going to be worth as much as other things. You trying to claim different?
 
This is true
The bureaucracy is growing (just look what the irs done)
The government has its favorites in the private sector (aka to big to fail)
All banks were made to implement standards to force them to give major loans to people who didn't even qualify, and then the government wrote a bill to bail them out with the caveat for future loan to have PMI (private mortgage insurance) unless to put down 20%.....what a freaking scam. It's hard to believe this is legal.
They create the problem just to shake people down.
Chevy should of failed and I love Chevy, but bad business decisions by inept management got bailout with golden parachutes to the bad management
There are multiple problems with managing the growth of government. On principle, I am of the opinion we are better served when government is closer to the people. I prefer more decentralization of the Federal Government, and I prefer more decentralization of State government so that decisions and accountability are at local levels where people feel their opinions and votes make a difference.
Absent that, the three most immediate changes I’d like to see at the Federal level are 1. eliminate omnibus budgeting that avoids committee reviews of department budget requests, etc…. 2. Establish zero based budgeting staggered by department on a three year cycle…3. Create line item veto authority for the President. These changes would at least leave fingerprints all over the damn decisions that keep growing our government and out of control spending, which might lead to accountability by voters.
 
There are multiple problems with managing the growth of government. On principle, I am of the opinion we are better served when government is closer to the people. I prefer more decentralization of the Federal Government, and I prefer more decentralization of State government so that decisions and accountability are at local levels where people feel their opinions and votes make a difference.
Absent that, the three most immediate changes I’d like to see at the Federal level are 1. eliminate omnibus budgeting that avoids committee reviews of department budget requests, etc…. 2. Establish zero based budgeting staggered by department on a three year cycle…3. Create line item veto authority for the President. These changes would at least leave fingerprints all over the damn decisions that keep growing our government and out of control spending, which might lead to accountability by voters.
Supreme Court said line item veto was unconstitutional which of course is BS. A veto is a veto.
 
There are multiple problems with managing the growth of government. On principle, I am of the opinion we are better served when government is closer to the people. I prefer more decentralization of the Federal Government, and I prefer more decentralization of State government so that decisions and accountability are at local levels where people feel their opinions and votes make a difference.
Absent that, the three most immediate changes I’d like to see at the Federal level are 1. eliminate omnibus budgeting that avoids committee reviews of department budget requests, etc…. 2. Establish zero based budgeting staggered by department on a three year cycle…3. Create line item veto authority for the President. These changes would at least leave fingerprints all over the damn decisions that keep growing our government and out of control spending, which might lead to accountability by voters.
I couldn't agree more with this.
I would like 2 others if I may ....
1 An audit of the Federal Reserve
2 A Convention of States
 
Now does the BRICS Alliance have a chance to be real?
Add that to what Jamie Diamond just said about 8% interest rates is not out of the question
 
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Now does the BRICS Alliance have a chance to be real?
Add that to what Jamie Diamond just said about 8% interest rates is not out of the question
"Add that to what Jamie Diamond just said about 8% interest rates is not out of the question"

It's Jamie Dimon -- sorry -- he is the leader of my firm
 
"Add that to what Jamie Diamond just said about 8% interest rates is not out of the question"

It's Jamie Dimon -- sorry -- he is the leader of my firm
Thanks

He is someone I have love/hate relationship when it comes to his speculations and the way it moves the market, but still someone whose words I pay attention to
 
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and so? I am saying that if you end up with a barter economy its not going to be worth as much as other things. You trying to claim different?
Maybe the first three months in your preferred type of apocalypse because you can't eat gold. Once the new normal is established you will be able to use gold to pay farmers and mercenaries.
 
Maybe the first three months in your preferred type of apocalypse because you can't eat gold. Once the new normal is established you will be able to use gold to pay farmers and mercenaries.
There's two thoughts to that
First- yours much like the royals did during the medieval time just as when Rome fell
Second - a community that bonds together to keep the community safe for the greater good

I think you are both correct
 
Maybe the first three months in your preferred type of apocalypse because you can't eat gold. Once the new normal is established you will be able to use gold to pay farmers and mercenaries.
So what is your 'preferred' type?
I am looking at the most likely type which is social and financial collapse lasting years.
 
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So what is your 'preferred' type?
I am looking at the most likely type which is social and financial collapse lasting years.
The hard truths that republican I think should have the guts to tackle is SS, and ghd debt because if these are not addressed then your prediction will come to pass.m, if the Republicans don't take it up then we are in a real mess
How it effects the stock market is going to break negative regardless on whether its getting control of it, or letting it continue to run amuck
 
CPI was a little higher than expected and the lemmings of Wall Street Jump off the Cliff.

These are professionals?
 
Clinton vs New York City (1998). Decision basically said the Constitution gave budget authority to Congress, not the Executive Branch, and that Line Item Veto by the President violated this separation of powers.
 
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