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Ohio St #3 ???

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They must have a bunch of players nobody has seen before. ND could have beaten them with a good QB last year and Michigan destroyed them. Stroud is gone. Hmmm
 
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They must have a bunch of players nobody has seen before. ND could have beaten them with a good QB last year and Michigan destroyed them. Stroud is gone. Hmmm
They clearly called off the dogs last year …ND defense was exhausted…..at least this year is a home game.
 
It's so obvious what the media is pushing with these rankings. 8 of the top 10 are SEC, BIG or soon to be BIG schools. The two outliers are Clemson and FSU, both of which are planning to bolt the ACC as soon as they get a chance. The bias is real and it's only going to get worse.
 
It's so obvious what the media is pushing with these rankings. 8 of the top 10 are SEC, BIG or soon to be BIG schools. The two outliers are Clemson and FSU, both of which are planning to bolt the ACC as soon as they get a chance. The bias is real and it's only going to get worse.
I mean to be fair we’re running out of schools that don’t fit those criteria
 
They must have a bunch of players nobody has seen before. ND could have beaten them with a good QB last year and Michigan destroyed them. Stroud is gone. Hmmm
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Follow the money

The media powers need a B10 school and they need an SEC school to be at the top.

OSU will be starting a QB with zero starts but they are the 3rd best team in the country???

Georgia and Bama will also have a QB with zero starts.
 
It's so obvious what the media is pushing with these rankings. 8 of the top 10 are SEC, BIG or soon to be BIG schools. The two outliers are Clemson and FSU, both of which are planning to bolt the ACC as soon as they get a chance. The bias is real and it's only going to get worse.
Which of the schools don't belong in and who are you replacing them with?
 
Follow the money

The media powers need a B10 school and they need an SEC school to be at the top.

OSU will be starting a QB with zero starts but they are the 3rd best team in the country???

Georgia and Bama will also have a QB with zero starts.
You need a QB with starting experience to be good and highly ranked?
 
How can you guarantee 9 wins without seeing a single snap from any team?

Remeber you guaranteed we'd run for 300 on OSU and win the game? And daid their LBs were poor?

That was funny
#1 I have watched Sam sling the football. Sam is a very good college QB.
High IQ
Can run
Good deep ball
Good intermediate game

The ND Oline is very good
Run game is strong

My biggest concern is the OC. But I believe GP can get 9 wins from this team.

I can see ND beating at least 1 of the big 3 teams.
 
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How can you rank a team so high without watching a single snap from any team?
Rankings increase hype and discussion about the sport. The only real usefulness they have is bias towards certain teams, which matters come selection time. However preseason rankings are pretty accurate and take into account returning production, so ranking OSU 3rd or around there isn't far fetched. It's not like we're overhauling the team, we lost a QB and 3 OL off a unit that was easily a top 3 team in the country last season, and bring back like 9 of 11 starters on defense + a bunch of depth.
 
Rankings increase hype and discussion about the sport. The only real usefulness they have is bias towards certain teams, which matters come selection time. However preseason rankings are pretty accurate and take into account returning production, so ranking OSU 3rd or around there isn't far fetched. It's not like we're overhauling the team, we lost a QB and 3 OL off a unit that was easily a top 3 team in the country last season, and bring back like 9 of 11 starters on defense + a bunch of depth.
There is zero reason to have a top 25 before the season starts.

How does anyone know OSU is better than
Bama 2023???

LSU #5??????? Why????

Again, no reason to have a preseason ranking.

OSU new QB
issues with the Oline
but hey, there are only 2 teams in the whole country that are better??????

Nonsense
 
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It's so obvious what the media is pushing with these rankings. 8 of the top 10 are SEC, BIG or soon to be BIG schools. The two outliers are Clemson and FSU, both of which are planning to bolt the ACC as soon as they get a chance. The bias is real and it's only going to get worse.
It’s a highly subjective sport, from refereeing ( there’s a penalty on every play), to voting on individual awards, to polls. At least there’s a playoff now instead of some bullshit / biased poll determining a NC. From recruiting websites to other media outlets the name of the game is to attract eyeballs which translates to more advertising dollars and more subscriber dough. We now have preseason/ mid season/ post season AA teams and 95% come from name schools with massive followings. Preseason polls attract discussion/interest and that translates to more $.
 
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#1 I have watched Sam sling the football. Sam is a very good college QB.
High IQ
Can run
Good deep ball
Good intermediate game

The ND Oline is very good
Run game is strong

My biggest concern is the OC. But I believe GP can get 9 wins from this team.

I can see ND beating at least 1 of the big 3 teams.
So you can see all that. But he can't see Osu being really good?
 
So you can see all that. But he can't see Osu being really good?
Correct!!!!! Ding, ding, ding.

OSU has never seen either QB play a significant down, let alone a significant game.

So yes, the only real mystery about ND is the OC.

Should ND be a top 20 team? Yes, based off of the QB they added and who they have coming back.
 
Correct!!!!! Ding, ding, ding.

OSU has never seen either QB play a significant down, let alone a significant game.

So yes, the only real mystery about ND is the OC.

Should ND be a top 20 team? Yes, based off of the QB they added and who they have coming back.
This is such garbage. Osu has been elite for 10 years now. No one saw Stroud play a significant down before he was the starter

Osu doesn't need a great qb to be very very good. They have elite talent everywhere.

Alabama won with McElroy as QB and Coker. OSU won with Krenzel and then their 3rd string qb forgot his name.

Osu can win 10 or more games this year if they had Pyne. They are loaded

Osu will be very good this year regardless of the QB
 
Which of the schools don't belong in and who are you replacing them with?
LSU, FSU, Clemson Texas are too high. Texas was 8-5 last year. both TCU and KSU should be higher than they are. Utah should be higher than they are. I believe ND should be at 11 and definitely ahead of Texas and Clemson who they destroyed head to head with Drew Pyne at QB.

Texas A&M and OU in the top 25 is laughable. They were 5-7 and 6-7. Name me a time where Notre Dame finished 5-7 or 6-6 and were ranked in the top 25 the following year?
 
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LSU, FSU, Clemson Texas are too high. Texas was 8-5 last year. both TCU and KSU should be higher than they are. Utah should be higher than they are. I believe ND should be at 11 and definitely ahead of Texas and Clemson who they destroyed head to head with Drew Pyne at QB.

Texas A&M and OU in the top 25 is laughable. They were 5-7 and 6-7. Name me a time where Notre Fame finished 5-7 or 6-6 and were ranked in the top 25 the following year?
You said the top 10. Who are you taking out of the top 10 and who are you putting in
 
I guess that’s the point, it’s all a guessing game and these pre season polls do mean a ton.. it’s why a 2 loss Alabama team is still considered for the playoff whereas if they started at 20, no chance. Hell these top preseason top 5 teams could lose 3 games and remain the top 10. You asking who they would put in with no clue proves their point, there is bias and no idea as we haven’t seen half the players play meaningful minutes yet. And the preseason rankings all but guarantee a spot in the top 20 for the chosen ones barring a disastrous season.
 
LSU, FSU, Clemson Texas are too high. Texas was 8-5 last year. both TCU and KSU should be higher than they are. Utah should be higher than they are. I believe ND should be at 11 and definitely ahead of Texas and Clemson who they destroyed head to head with Drew Pyne at QB.

Texas A&M and OU in the top 25 is laughable. They were 5-7 and 6-7. Name me a time where Notre Fame finished 5-7 or 6-6 and were ranked in the top 25 the following year?

I think Texas is going to be very good this year.

I won't be shocked if they beat Bama who I don't think will be very good.
 
You said the top 10. Who are you taking out of the top 10 and who are you putting in
Here's my pre-season top 10
1. Notre Dame
2. Navy
3. Army
4. Air Force
5. Stanford
6. Georgia Tech
7. TCU
8. Utah
9. Tulane
10. Clemson

With Game Day traveling to Ireland for the highly anticipated #1 vs #2 matchup to kickoff the season!!
 
This is such garbage. Osu has been elite for 10 years now. No one saw Stroud play a significant down before he was the starter

Osu doesn't need a great qb to be very very good. They have elite talent everywhere.

Alabama won with McElroy as QB and Coker. OSU won with Krenzel and then their 3rd string qb forgot his name.

Osu can win 10 or more games this year if they had Pyne. They are loaded

Osu will be very good this year regardless of the QB
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If the OSU Oline is as bad as OSU beat writers are saying, then it 100% matters who the QB is.

You name the #1 pick in the draft to prove your point????

CJ is in rare air.

That does not happen often

Ask Clemson after Trevor left
 
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If the OSU Oline is as bad as OSU beat writers are saying, then it 100% matters who the QB is.

You name the #1 pick in the draft to prove your point????

CJ is in rare air.

That does not happen often

Ask Clemson after Trevor left
Clemson won 10 games then won 11 games the 2 years after he left.

And Ohio State has more talent than Clemson did/does

Osu won a title with Krenzel and a3rd strong qb. Bama won with McElroy

Ohio state is loaded. The question on their OL is the tackles. Interior is very good

Osu would win 10 plus games with Drew Pyne. They are loaded
 
🤣🤣🤣

If the OSU Oline is as bad as OSU beat writers are saying, then it 100% matters who the QB is.

You name the #1 pick in the draft to prove your point????

CJ is in rare air.

That does not happen often

Ask Clemson after Trevor left
No one is saying the OL is going to be bad, what the heck are you smoking. But there are question marks and 3 starters have to be replaced, that doesn't mean the OL is going to suck
 
No one is saying the OL is going to be bad, what the heck are you smoking. But there are question marks and 3 starters have to be replaced, that doesn't mean the OL is going to suck
It’s the weak link
 
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