No Way Oklahoma Is Ranked Ahead of ND!!!

[Golden Domer93]

Oklahoma lost to TEXAS, a team ND beat by 30 points. ND one loss is to the #1 ranked team in the country!

1. CLEMSON
2. ALABAMA
3. NOTRE DAME
4. IOWA

5. OKLAHOMA
6. MICHIGAN STATE

 

[mokpra37]

You may be right, but ND will get killed if they play like they did tonight when they play Stanford.

 

[Golden Domer93]

The committee has said they value head to head opponents PLUS look at the quality of the one loss. ND will be over a 1 loss Oklahoma team ALL DAY

 

[gatorRAD]

Are you guys absolutely gone? The Sooners would ANNIALATE your team right now!!!

 

[BGI User 348]

uhhhh...ND deserves its ranking over the gators. At least BC is way better than fau and we won without OT.

 

[Irishjohn68]

Are you guys absolutely gone? The Sooners would ANNIALATE your team right now!!!

No they wouldn't.

 

[Golden Domer93]

Oklahoma barely beat TCU tonight....they won 30-29 and TCU had a kid wide open in the endzone on two point conversion.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Oklahoma barely beat TCU tonight....they won 30-29 and TCU had a kid wide open in the endzone on two point conversion.

And a bad BC hung in there with ND. OU's lose with not carry as much weight if they beat OKST

 

[SeanPol355]

After the way we played, any top 4 ranking this week will be a gift from the committee.

 

[Nocalirish]

ND will be #3 this week and IF they beat Stanford on the road they will be at least #3. Bama may lose but I wouldnt bet on it.

 

[FLballcoach1]

And ND's close win over BC will have no bearing after beating Stanford. What will have bearing will be ND's romp over Texas and OU,s loss to Texas.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Tcu even with their injures would be the 3rd toughest game on NDS schedule. TCU/Stanford would be a great game.

 

[echowaker]

Are you guys absolutely gone? The Sooners would ANNIALATE your team right now!!!

hardly.

 

[Flyrish]

When all is said and done, assuming ND beats Stanford. Here is how each teams resume could look

ND- wins over Stanford (Top 15), navy (top 15), Pitt (potentially top 25), temple (potentially top 25), USC (potentially top 25 if in PAC 12 title game). Loss vs #1 team in country

OU- wins over OK state (top 20) Baylor (top 8), Tenn(maybe 25 but probably not) loss vs team ND beat a few weeks earlier 38-3

Baylor- win over OK state (Top 20), loss to OU

Do not think TCU will be ranked end of season. They were 18th this week with one loss will drop into 20s this week and after losing to Baylor will drop out. TCU has 0 quality wins.

I do not think there is any chance Baylor passes us and I think there is a slim chance OU passes us only do to the unknown of the committee since its only year 2 of the College Football Playoff. Just my thoughts would love to hear what rational people have to say.

Go Irish Beat Stanford!

 

[echowaker]

And a bad BC hung in there with ND. OU's lose with not carry as much weight if they beat OKST

disagree. when teams have the same record quality of loss has proven to be given just as much weight as wins. the rankings clearly show that. as is common opponent results. give credit to bc for playing tough but nd was their own worst opponent last night.

 

[Golden Domer93]

Oklahoma loss to Texas "does not go away" per the football playoff commissioner

 

[MirageSmack]

If OU doesn't get the #1 RB back then they are toast. I don't think they scored after he went out did they?

 

[SALittleGiant513]

He came back in and scored in the second half.

 

[twalsh]

Are you guys absolutely gone? The Sooners would ANNIALATE your team right now!!!

Yeah, that's what they told us in 2012 too.

 

[Golden Domer93]

you mean QB? Baker Mayfield?

 

[beachcardinal]

Oklahoma lost to TEXAS, a team ND beat by 30 points. ND one loss is to the #1 ranked team in the country!

1. CLEMSON
2. ALABAMA
3. NOTRE DAME
4. IOWA

5. OKLAHOMA
6. MICHIGAN STATE

The committee also looks at wins

 

[Golden Domer93]

Losses are valued my friend and ND lost to Clemson and Oklahoma lost to Texas. The committee also looks at similiar opponents and ND crushed Texas.

 

[deadirishpoet]

disagree. when teams have the same record quality of loss has proven to be given just as much weight as wins. the rankings clearly show that. as is common opponent results. give credit to bc for playing tough but nd was their own worst opponent last night.

Wrong

a quality win will always trump a quality lose as it should as always has been.

The only time a quality lose plays a factor is when both teams have the same amount quality wins.

If OU wins next week they will ensure a place in the play offs. Their last three games will match anothers in CFB, and three victories in a row at the end of the season will be fresh in the commities eyes.

Now that OSU is out then as long as ND wins who could possibly jump them?

 

[FightingIrish44]

Wrong

a quality win will always trump a quality lose as it should as always has been.

The only time a quality lose plays a factor is when both teams have the same amount quality wins.

If OU wins next week they will ensure a place in the play offs. Their last three games will match anothers in CFB, and three victories in a row at the end of the season will be fresh in the commities eyes.

Now that OSU is out then as long as ND wins who could possibly jump them?

Where does the committee say that quality wins come ahead of quality losses? I've never seen anywhere where anyone has said that.

I don't think either comes ahead when analyzing two teams. Everything is taken as an aggregate.

 

[beachcardinal]

Where does the committee say that quality wins come ahead of quality losses? I've never seen anywhere where anyone has said that.

I don't think either comes ahead when analyzing two teams. Everything is taken as an aggregate.

Some things we know. the SEC will have a team. If Clemson wins out they are in. IN Michigan State and Iowa win next week the championship winner will be in. The Pac-12 is out. So it should come down to the Big 12 verse ND. the Big 12 has no championship game so each team will play the same number of games. Wit Stanford loss to Oregon and the blow to ND's SOS based on Oregon beating SC, I think if Oklahoma wins out they are in. Partly because the committee won't want to leave the Big 12 out two years in a row. Just IMO

 

[deadirishpoet]

Where does the committee say that quality wins come ahead of quality losses? I've never seen anywhere where anyone has said that.

I don't think either comes ahead when analyzing two teams. Everything is taken as an aggregate.

Your kidding right?

If ND playoff hopes were being questioned because of another team quality loss after ND beat three highly ranked teams in a row to get in the mix you would be singing a different tone.

 

[beachcardinal]

Your kidding right?

If ND playoff hopes were being questioned because of another team quality loss after ND beat three highly ranked teams in a row to get in the mix you would be singing a different tone.

I am not sure it is cut and dried but I think Poet is more right. Close wins sometimes mean a team was out in front and pulled in its horns to minimize the risk.

 

[ivan brunetti]

Some things we know. the SEC will have a team. If Clemson wins out they are in. IN Michigan State and Iowa win next week the championship winner will be in. The Pac-12 is out. So it should come down to the Big 12 verse ND. the Big 12 has no championship game so each team will play the same number of games. Wit Stanford loss to Oregon and the blow to ND's SOS based on Oregon beating SC, I think if Oklahoma wins out they are in. Partly because the committee won't want to leave the Big 12 out two years in a row. Just IMO

It would be very close between ND, Oklahoma and Sparty/Iowa. Iowa looks to be the weakest but they would be a major conference undefeated champ. Sparty has good wins but they look like the luckiest. Oklahoma is on a real roll, would be a conference champ but has by far the worst loss. ND has the best loss and has the benefit of being in the top four for awhile, but hasn't looked impressive of late.

Assuming everyone wins out, MOV in the final games could determine which two they take.

 

[irishnumberone1]

The playoff committee will vote more for Iowa go to # 3. ND will be stay # 4. If Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State then Oklahoma will jump head of ND to be # 4. If ND beat Stanford then ND will be # 5 in final for playoff.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Your kidding right?

If ND playoff hopes were being questioned because of another team quality loss after ND beat three highly ranked teams in a row to get in the mix you would be singing a different tone.

This has nothing to do with ND. You look at the overall résumé. Here's an example: Team A has three "quality" (however you want to define that) wins but has a loss to a 5-7 team. Team B has two "quality" wins and has a loss to a 12-1 team. Which team gets in? It still shoudn't be as simple as that.

That's all I'm saying. If someone picks team A because they have more "quality" wins, then they're a f'ing moron.

 

[deadirishpoet]

This has nothing to do with ND. You look at the overall résumé. Here's an example: Team A has three "quality" (however you want to define that) wins but has a loss to a 5-7 team. Team B has two "quality" wins and has a loss to a 12-1 team. Which team gets in? It still shoudn't be as simple as that.

That's all I'm saying. If someone picks team A because they have more "quality" wins, then they're a f'ing moron.

Oh

So morons are those whob put more value in a quality win over a quality lose

I get it thanks.

 

[beachcardinal]

It would be very close between ND, Oklahoma and Sparty/Iowa. Iowa looks to be the weakest but they would be a major conference undefeated champ. Sparty has good wins but they look like the luckiest. Oklahoma is on a real roll, would be a conference champ but has by far the worst loss. ND has the best loss and has the benefit of being in the top four for awhile, but hasn't looked impressive of late.

Assuming everyone wins out, MOV in the final games could determine which two they take.

I don't think it is close as to the Big 10. If MSU and Iowa win next weak the championship winner will be in the final four. Either an undefeated Iowa with and extra game over ND or a one loss MSU with wins over Iowa, Michigan, OSU and 12 wins verses ND's 11. It won't even be close. As to the Big 12, that will be close.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Oh

So morons are those whob put more value in a quality win over a quality lose

I get it thanks.

Lol. No..............morons are simpistic people who can't take more than one factor in account and look at things as black and white. See..that's not at all what I said, but you take it like that because you're insecure or stupid or whatever the F your issue is.

I would consider putting in a team with worse losses than another team if they had more quality wins. You see how that works? You take the whole résumé into account.

Don't be a simpleton.

 

[beachcardinal]

Oh

So morons are those whob put more value in a quality win over a quality lose

I get it thanks.

I guess we are morons Poet. Funny I don't see you at the meetings.

 

[Nocalirish]

I don't think it is close as to the Big 10. If MSU and Iowa win next weak the championship winner will be in the final f. r. Either an undefeated Iowa with and extra game over ND or a one loss MSU with wins over Iowa, Michigan, OSU and 12 wins verses ND's 11. It won't even be close. As to the Big 12, that will be close.

It wont even be close? Your warped logic is more screwed up than than UOJ's coaching. The committee has shown that strength of schedule is the most important factor and ND beating Stanford will only enforce their ranking. Oklahoma and Michst if they have only one loss will have lost to less than mediocre opponents while ND's loss is to the #1 team in the nation on the road. You may ignore this but the committee doesnt.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Hey guys, when I said if someone picks Team A they're a moron...what I meant is if they pick the team simply because they have more quality wins; not just because they picked team A.

That's all. Just wanted to clear that up.

 

[beachcardinal]

It wont even be close? Your warped logic is more screwed up than than UOJ's coaching. The committee has shown that strength of schedule is the most important factor and ND beating Stanford will only enforce their ranking. Oklahoma and Michst if they have only one loss will have lost to less than mediocre opponents while ND's loss is to the #1 team in the nation on the road. You may ignore this but the committee doesnt.

Mich State's mediocre opponents will include Ohio State, Michigan and Iowa, all teams that will end the season ranked. Tow of which are ranked higher than Stanford. Navy and Temple just don't match up. Iowa would be undefeated with 13 wins to Nd's 11. As I said it will be close with the big 12.

 

[ivan brunetti]

It wont even be close? Your warped logic is more screwed up than than UOJ's coaching. The committee has shown that strength of schedule is the most important factor and ND beating Stanford will only enforce their ranking. Oklahoma and Michst if they have only one loss will have lost to less than mediocre opponents while ND's loss is to the #1 team in the nation on the road. You may ignore this but the committee doesnt.

If only losses were compared then you would have a point. But wins are compared too.

 

[beachcardinal]

If only losses were compared then you would have a point. But wins are compared too.

I think you have a good chance against the Big 12, but the Big 10 winner will have one more win than ND if it is MSU and 2 more if it is Iowa. This assumes they both win next week.

 

[Nocalirish]

I think you have a good chance against the Big 12, but the Big 10 winner will have one more win than ND if it is MSU and 2 more if it is Iowa. This assumes they both win next week.

They dont give extra points for more wins over Big10 also rans. ND will have victories over 2 conf champs and a 2pt loss to another. ND will still have the best SOS. If being undefeated in the Big10 meant that much Iowa would be ranked ahead of Bama and ND already.