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No. 5 Just win out.

Unfortunate it doesn't work that way. Wish it did. If Big 10, ACC, and SEC all get a spot the question is can we hold off either TCU or Baylor if they win out. Think it will be tough for us to do so if they beat OK, OK St, TCU/Baylor...down the stretch.
 
Unfortunate it doesn't work that way. Wish it did. If Big 10, ACC, and SEC all get a spot the question is can we hold off either TCU or Baylor if they win out. Think it will be tough for us to do so if they beat OK, OK St, TCU/Baylor...down the stretch.
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Unfortunate it doesn't work that way. Wish it did. If Big 10, ACC, and SEC all get a spot the question is can we hold off either TCU or Baylor if they win out. Think it will be tough for us to do so if they beat OK, OK St, TCU/Baylor...down the stretch.
I agree. There is no way Baylor does not move ahead if they win out. I think the committee had some questions about their schedule but if they prove themselves, they are in.
 

How? Its his opinion.

If LSU, OSU, Clemson, and one of the Big12 teams all win out, I don't see how ND gets in. Lets say TCU wins out -- that would include OU, OSU, Baylor. Three ranked teams to ND's one (Stanford). Plus ND will have lost a game.

I'm surprised, and happy, that ND is in. But they still need a lot of help.
 
How? Its his opinion.

If LSU, OSU, Clemson, and one of the Big12 teams all win out, I don't see how ND gets in. Lets say TCU wins out -- that would include OU, OSU, Baylor. Three ranked teams to ND's one (Stanford). Plus ND will have lost a game.

I'm surprised, and happy, that ND is in. But they still need a lot of help.

I agree with you. If LSU, Clemson, OSU, and the Big 12 champ are all undefeated, ND will be left out. But I don't expect that to happen. Experience tells us that probably at least 2, if not 3, of those schools lose before the end of the season.
 
Again. The problem is all the teams in front of us -their toughest games are against teams breathing down our neck. So if OSU loses to MSU, we dont move up, MSU jumps us. Probably the same with Clemson v. FSU. So, we can get to 4 when one of the SEC teams is eliminated from the top 4, but if we are to hold off a TCU or Baylor we HAVE to get to 3. Cant be at 4, in that first out position.

And our best bet for that is Oklahoma. They have the best D in the BIG12 and might be able to beat both of those guys. Then its a coin flip on wether they jump us.

Thats how i see it. Great to be 5, but it doesnt change the math.
 
Again. The problem is all the teams in front of us -their toughest games are against teams breathing down our neck. So if OSU loses to MSU, we dont move up, MSU jumps us. Probably the same with Clemson v. FSU. So, we can get to 4 when one of the SEC teams is eliminated from the top 4, but if we are to hold off a TCU or Baylor we HAVE to get to 3. Cant be at 4, in that first out position.

And our best bet for that is Oklahoma. They have the best D in the BIG12 and might be able to beat both of those guys. Then its a coin flip on wether they jump us.

Thats how i see it. Great to be 5, but it doesnt change the math.
You are aright. Still a longshot. Should have taken care of business down in Death Valley.
 
ND has established it self as #5...LSU and Bama one of them will drop out of the top 4 .ND wins out there in the final 4....simple as that,,,,no bs..no one going to jump ahead of the irish...Unless it takes 4 overtimes to beat Wake Forest and BC.....
 
If Baylor or TCU win out they will finish on a strong note but they won't be able to completely erase their weak out of conference opponents with Baylor having played Lamar and TCU having played Stephen F. Austin. For those saying the committee will jump an undefeated TCU or Baylor over ND because either will have finished strong against respected opponents, keep in mind as long as Clemson, Temple, Navy, and USC finish strong the committee will continue to have to respect what we've accomplished and as long as we finish the season by beating Stanford I think they will have a very hard time allowing either Baylor or TCU to jump us. The fact we are ranked number 5 right now is very significant.
 
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Again. The problem is all the teams in front of us -their toughest games are against teams breathing down our neck. So if OSU loses to MSU, we dont move up, MSU jumps us. Probably the same with Clemson v. FSU. So, we can get to 4 when one of the SEC teams is eliminated from the top 4, but if we are to hold off a TCU or Baylor we HAVE to get to 3. Cant be at 4, in that first out position.

And our best bet for that is Oklahoma. They have the best D in the BIG12 and might be able to beat both of those guys. Then its a coin flip on wether they jump us.

Thats how i see it. Great to be 5, but it doesnt change the math.
 
Again. The problem is all the teams in front of us -their toughest games are against teams breathing down our neck. So if OSU loses to MSU, we dont move up, MSU jumps us. Probably the same with Clemson v. FSU. So, we can get to 4 when one of the SEC teams is eliminated from the top 4, but if we are to hold off a TCU or Baylor we HAVE to get to 3. Cant be at 4, in that first out position.

And our best bet for that is Oklahoma. They have the best D in the BIG12 and might be able to beat both of those guys. Then its a coin flip on wether they jump us. How stupid. if MSU is to jump ahead of ND it would have been right now....get a brain..

Thats how i see it. Great to be 5, but it doesnt change the math.
 
If Baylor or TCU win out they will finish on a strong note but they won't be able to completely erase their weak out of conference opponents with Baylor having played Lamar and TCU having played Stephen F. Austin. For those saying the committee will jump an undefeated TCU or Baylor over ND because either will have finished strong against respected opponents, keep in mind as long as Clemson, Temple, Navy, and USC finish strong the committee will continue to have to respect what we've accomplished and as long as we finish the season by beating Stanford I think they will have a very hard time allowing either Baylor or TCU to jump us. The fact we are ranked number 5 right now is very significant.
Fair point. But we have loss. So quality wins cant be a tie. Or really even close to tie.
 
ND has established it self as #5...LSU and Bama one of them will drop out of the top 4 .ND wins out there in the final 4....simple as that,,,,no bs..no one going to jump ahead of the irish...Unless it takes 4 overtimes to beat Wake Forest and BC.....

Flat out wrong
 
Fair point. But we have loss. So quality wins cant be a tie. Or really even close to tie.

I agree but the fact both Baylor and TCU played FCS teams should matter. It turns their 12 game schedule into an 11 game schedule. If we win out and one of them wins out we will have 11 wins against legitimate teams and so will Big 12 champ. I don't think Baylor or TCU will be able to hang their hat on being undefeated.
 
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All incentive is right there in front of them. There is no reason or excuse for this team not to play focused and well. This team absolutely has the talent to get to and win a national championship. The time for half measures and excuses is gone. Starting this week at Pitt the Irish have to play hitting on all cylinders. I hope the players realize the opportunity that is in front of them. I don't like making predictions mainly because I don't like to jinx anything. However, my gut tells me the players have to know they have a chance at a title. I think we will see a very focused and determined Irish team beginning with Pitt.
 
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All incentive is right there in front of them. There is no reason or excuse for this team not to play focused and well. This team absolutely has the talent to get to and win a national championship. The time for half measures and excuses is gone. Starting this week at Pitt the Irish have to play hitting on all cylinders. I hope the players realize the opportunity that is in front of them. I don't like making predictions mainly because I don't like to jinx anything. However, my gut tells me the players have to know they have a chance at a title. I think we will see a very focused and determined Irish team beginning with Pitt.

Hopefully, they're not worried about the national title or anything else. Just get to 1-0.
 
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Poor response. If Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, and Baylor or TCU win out, then they will all be undefeated so that would certainly go a long way to finishing ahead of Notre Dame. I agree that this could be a big "IF" but calling the original point wrong does nothing for a discussion.
When was the last time there were 2 or more undefeated regular season teams?
 
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When was the last time there were 2 or more undefeated regular season teams?

Even if those teams all have one loss, they could still get in ahead of ND. I think Clemson, LSU, and Alabama definitely do (I know Bama and LSU still play).
 
We are in control of our own destiny. Win out and most likely someone else will slip.

Except we're not. Being in control of our own destiny means that there is nothing that could happen that could keep us out that is out of our hands.
 
4 undefeated teams: Clemson, LSU, OSU and Baylor/ TCU would be hard to keep out of the final 4. Regardless, I do not see that happening. ND still has work to do. PITT will be tough. ND has to get better . Stanford will be extremely tough. ND wins out and at least we all know that the committee respects them so the players should be very motivated right now. I don't know about you guys but I was really happy to see ND at 5.
 
ND needs to win out and Clemson needs to win out to give ND the best chance of making it. The decision could come down to who has the best loss and if Clemson wins out, ND will have the best loss.
 
Don't get carried away with arguing with each other about this. It's good to see we're getting some respect from the committee before the conferences devour each other. Our team has their attention. Anybody who doesn't think this ranking was a good thing is a troll.
 
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Way to many unknowns to guess right now. The only thing that matters is Pittsburgh. Beat them and move on. Lose and it's all over.
 
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