What warIts rich that you are accusing me of attacking a strawman after you have based 3 to 4 posts of insanity on developing a weird strawman. Nothing I have said is logically inconsistent. I am not making a value judgment as to whether or not Europeans were justified in resettling America.
I used the term Indigenous people because Native American groups have expressed feelings that at time Native Americans/Indians are terms that can carry a negative connotation and because I don't really care its easy for me to say sure I will call your group what you want.
The fact is (and this is the simple point I made in response to RGC which is very narrow and has nothing to do with half the bullshit you have spewed at us off wikipedia) in history there are numerous examples of "Group 1" living on land that "Group 2" wants to take. When "Group 2" invades those communities/societies/groups, and attempts to take possession of that land/territory there are different ways that "Group 1" will react. Because it is a hostile act that involves taking over land/territory however it is silly to think that "Group 2" in some instances, if not most instances, would not fight back.
The comment was made that we should not judge explorers or settlers for their actions against the natives because of the "atrocities" that the natives committed against the settlers. The word "atrocity" to me implies (1) that the victims are innocent and (2) that the actor is not justified. Neither applies here.
As for Columbus... history is history and running from it decreases an ability to learn from it. The guy found North America by accident, was interested in the exotic nature of the people on this land and either committed or was aware of others committing crazy abuses and acts on the people here that had no idea what type of force was coming after Columbus found this land. That being said it happens all the time, if you win the war you get to write the history.
The native Asians vs other native Asians