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IrishMike409

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Driskell wrote a nice article about the LBs, and how they’re highly touted nationally.

Here, it’s seems like the group has underwhelmed. Can the LBs be a major strength this season? JD, Marist, Kiser all back. I’d like to see if Sneed and NZ can beat them out…..

Thoughts?
 
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Driskell wrote a nice article about the LBs, and how they’re highly touted Zac nationally.

Here, it’s seems like the group has underwhelmed. Can the LBs be a major strength this season? JD, Marist, Kiser all back. I’d like to see if Sneed and NZ can beat them out…..

Thoughts?
No
 
Sneed and Ziegler need to get reps. They should be battling to start in camp. And Bowen and Ausberry need reps in blowout type games
 
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Sneed and Ziegler need to get reps. They should be battling to start in camp. And Bowen and Ausberry need reps in blowout type games
You think Sneed could go to fall camp and just flat beat out one of the upperclassmen? Take the job, and keep it?
 
Driskell wrote a nice article about the LBs, and how they’re highly touted Zac nationally.

Here, it’s seems like the group has underwhelmed. Can the LBs be a major strength this season? JD, Marist, Kiser all back. I’d like to see if Sneed and NZ can beat them out…..

Thoughts?
I'll be certain to make this a must read today.
 
I think he could. But will he be given a chance? I'm not sure. Liufau was bad last year. And Kiser was just decent. There should be open competitions
Best poster on the board. Thanks again.

Even if we go with steady and reliable Kiser, Marist, Bertrand, this should still easily be a “+ unit”. There’s too much experience and really, a lot of productivity in that group too.

Would love to see one of the young guys emerge and become a star. I remember when Nyles Morgan and Coney emerged and became real forces. The whole look of the defense changed.
 
Driskell wrote a nice article about the LBs, and how they’re highly touted nationally.

Here, it’s seems like the group has underwhelmed. Can the LBs be a major strength this season? JD, Marist, Kiser all back. I’d like to see if Sneed and NZ can beat them out…..

Thoughts?
I for one think the amount of criticism that the LB’s get is unwarranted. Its very easy to watch a game, see some replays of LB’s missing tackles, and then that’s what the viewer remembers after the game…therefore the linebackers played poorly in the viewer’s mind. The opposite can be true too.

In addition, there seems to be a sort of groupthink. ‘Well “everyone” is saying it’. How many people do you think go back and re-watch games with a keen eye for pass coverage concepts and run fits? Even the website-operators get things wrong many times.

I saw once where the site-operator was critical of a particular backer’s play on a particular pass play. There was no way for the LB to defend both receivers, but here is a well-known person making it seem (in an arrogant, blowhard way) like the LB executed poorly on that play. Now the audience thinks the backer messed up when he didn’t.

Its also easy to see the defense giving up runs up the middle and assume the defense (and linebackers) is playing poorly. For example, against USC, there were so many times when ND had almost no chance to stop the offense, in particular in short yardage and near the goaline. Way too much stunting. Way too predictable stunting. Stunts that left ND with not enough bodies to effectively defend the run. Playing pass coverage concepts that didn’t allow the defense enough numbers to defend the run. Sometimes you’re maybe willing to “give-in” on short yardage and live to fight another day, but even still, these coverage concepts can make it look like the linebacker is playing poorly when they’re just properly executing their assignment.

After the BYU game, I saw plenty of complaints about LB play. The issues were almost entirely schematic in that game as opposed to inherently poor LB game.
 
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You think Sneed could go to fall camp and just flat beat out one of the upperclassmen? Take the job, and keep it?
Kizer, Bertrand, and Liufau are all 5th year players with extensive playing experience. Sneed is a sophomore who didn’t play much last year. When ND was trying to beat a rival and top 10 team, USC, Kollie got in on one play, and Sneed had zero I believe. To go from that to beating out the other backers is a long shot. As I said in the prior post, I don’t think the backers are that bad.
 
Young guys seem talented. The veterans are not. Hopefully guys like Sneed are getting meaningful reps by the end of the season
 
Kizer, Bertrand, and Liufau are all 5th year players with extensive playing experience. Sneed is a sophomore who didn’t play much last year. When ND was trying to beat a rival and top 10 team, USC, Kollie got in on one play, and Sneed had zero I believe. To go from that to beating out the other backers is a long shot. As I said in the prior post, I don’t think the backers are that bad.
Hopefully not this year. But Liufau was really bad last year and Kizer was average as can be
 
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Kizer, Bertrand, and Liufau are all 5th year players with extensive playing experience. Sneed is a sophomore who didn’t play much last year. When ND was trying to beat a rival and top 10 team, USC, Kollie got in on one play, and Sneed had zero I believe. To go from that to beating out the other backers is a long shot. As I said in the prior post, I don’t think the backers are that bad.
I guess you don't watch much. Liufau was absolutely horrible, Kizer/Bertrand average at best. Sneed, if given the chance should be a starter. What a shame to lose Kollie. He needed reps last year and never got much of a chance. I thought the days of good ole BK mentality "play the older guy because he has experience" were over.
 
This AI stuff is scary. I wonder if the best tech we have programmed AI to post inane content and named it "the cooler" whether it could beat SBJ in derailing threads with its posts.
 
I guess you don't watch much. Liufau was absolutely horrible, Kizer/Bertrand average at best. Sneed, if given the chance should be a starter. What a shame to lose Kollie. He needed reps last year and never got much of a chance. I thought the days of good ole BK mentality "play the older guy because he has experience" were over.
Bertrand is a good backer. Not great but he's a good player. You're right about the other 2

Kollie wasnt overly impressive

Time for Sneed Ziegler Ausberry and Bowen
 
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I guess you don't watch much. Liufau was absolutely horrible, Kizer/Bertrand average at best. Sneed, if given the chance should be a starter. What a shame to lose Kollie. He needed reps last year and never got much of a chance. I thought the days of good ole BK mentality "play the older guy because he has experience" were over.
I watched plenty. Its not, ‘play the guys that are experienced’. Its…play the guys that are better. Often times the older guy is better, especially one with three more years of college football experience.

Kollie? It was very easy to see he’s not as good as Liufau. People clamored for him just based on recruiting rankings. Same thing with Sneed when there’s no evidence to suggest he’s as good as Kizer. He’ll probably rotate in at Kizer’s position though.
 
Liufau should not see the field, he is awful and brings nothing to the table. I don't understand what the coaches see in him.
 
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I watched plenty. Its not, ‘play the guys that are experienced’. Its…play the guys that are better. Often times the older guy is better, especially one with three more years of college football experience.

Kollie? It was very easy to see he’s not as good as Liufau. People clamored for him just based on recruiting rankings. Same thing with Sneed when there’s no evidence to suggest he’s as good as Kizer. He’ll probably rotate in at Kizer’s position though.
It wasn't very easy to see. They were both bad. Liufau did nothing.

Yeah there is evidence to suggest he could be better for Sneed. Watch one play and you see a much better athlete
 
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Dead last in red zone percentage.
91st in opportunity rate.
103rd in expected points added.

On top of that not a great recruiter.
We were 22nd in total defense, but only 39th in scoring defense, because we were like 130th in red zone defense. Not sure exactly what the problem was there. Our interior DL wasn't very good. We missed Hinish and Tagovailoa-Amosa in the middle. I think that was part of the problem - couldn't stop runs up the middle.

As for the linebackers, I did see one post-spring depth chart that had Sneed starting along with Bertrand and Kiser. Although the other ones I saw didn't have that.
 
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We were 22nd in total defense, but only 39th in scoring defense, because we were like 130th in red zone defense. Not sure exactly what the problem was there. Our interior DL wasn't very good. We missed Hinish and Tagovailoa-Amosa in the middle. I think that was part of the problem - couldn't stop runs up the middle.

As for the linebackers, I did see one post-spring depth chart that had Sneed starting along with Bertrand and Kiser. Although the other ones I saw didn't have that.

The linebackers should be improved. We have a personnel and development issue along the DL. As long as a certain individual is running that line, I don’t imagine recruiting improves much either.
 
Bertrand is a good backer. Not great but he's a good player. You're right about the other 2

Kollie wasnt overly impressive

Time for Sneed Ziegler Ausberry and Bowen
I still don’t get Liufau. Yet get nasty and beer sold him as the best. Lol

Tackled from the side 7 yards beyond the LOS and never got to the QB on blitzes
 
Both Al’s are a problem.

Golden is not a good recruiter and is a mediocre defensive coordinator. He is not the answer. If you were going to be a mediocre to poor recruiter that can’t connect with people, then you better be one hell of a defensive coordinator and I mean top top he is neither. Miami people complained about his recruiting and ability to connect with high school kids for years. Just ask them.
 
Dead last in red zone percentage.
91st in opportunity rate.
103rd in expected points added.

On top of that not a great recruiter.
You mock AD Jack Swarbick, you criticized and mocked former OC Tommy Rees, you have criticized OC Gerad Parker before he even calls a play, you have lately taken shots at Marcus Freeman, and now you take shots at Al Golden.

Nothing new.
 
Both Al’s are a problem.

Golden is not a good recruiter and is a mediocre defensive coordinator. He is not the answer. If you were going to be a mediocre to poor recruiter that can’t connect with people, then you better be one hell of a defensive coordinator and I mean top top he is neither. Miami people complained about his recruiting and ability to connect with high school kids for years. Just ask them.
But you do admire Bryan Driskell.
 
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You mock AD Jack Swarbick, you criticized and mocked former OC Tommy Rees, you have criticized OC Gerad Parker before he even calls a play, you have lately taken shots at Marcus Freeman, and now you take shots at Al Golden.

Nothing new.

why don’t you just put me on ignore and hide in your shell
 
We were 22nd in total defense, but only 39th in scoring defense, because we were like 130th in red zone defense. Not sure exactly what the problem was there. Our interior DL wasn't very good. We missed Hinish and Tagovailoa-Amosa in the middle. I think that was part of the problem - couldn't stop runs up the middle.

As for the linebackers, I did see one post-spring depth chart that had Sneed starting along with Bertrand and Kiser. Although the other ones I saw didn't have that.
I don’t feel that ND’s defense is as good as their statistical rankings. That’s why there is such a contrast between overall and redzone stats. I’m honestly amazed at their overall YPG allowed and PPG allowed stats being that good.

I think it has to do with poor playcalling, scheme, and execution (redzone performance).

Against USC, one rush TD came off of horrible scheme, IMO. Another ND wasn’t aligned properly. Another was ND having, not an unsound alignment, but one that gave them no chance against the play USC ran. I would guess that lack of practice and repetition contributed to a breakdown on the other two USC scores. They’re getting out-coached, IMO.
 
We were 22nd in total defense, but only 39th in scoring defense, because we were like 130th in red zone defense. Not sure exactly what the problem was there. Our interior DL wasn't very good. We missed Hinish and Tagovailoa-Amosa in the middle. I think that was part of the problem - couldn't stop runs up the middle.

As for the linebackers, I did see one post-spring depth chart that had Sneed starting along with Bertrand and Kiser. Although the other ones I saw didn't have that.
Kiser and Liufau have absolutely no business starting.....period
 
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I still don’t get Liufau. Yet get nasty and beer sold him as the best. Lol

Tackled from the side 7 yards beyond the LOS and never got to the QB on blitzes
Agreed. Has athletic ability but doesn't seem to have the innate football instincts that good players have. Other than special teams he doesn't need to see the field.
 
I don’t feel that ND’s defense is as good as their statistical rankings. That’s why there is such a contrast between overall and redzone stats. I’m honestly amazed at their overall YPG allowed and PPG allowed stats being that good.

I think it has to do with poor playcalling, scheme, and execution (redzone performance).

Against USC, one rush TD came off of horrible scheme, IMO. Another ND wasn’t aligned properly. Another was ND having, not an unsound alignment, but one that gave them no chance against the play USC ran. I would guess that lack of practice and repetition contributed to a breakdown on the other two USC scores. They’re getting out-coached, IMO.
Nobody stopped USC last year, except Utah when they knocked Williams out of the game in the Pac-12 championship. The first time they played, Utah won, 43-42. Oregon State did manage to hold them to 17 in a loss. But they went over 40 in most of their games.

But other than that game and the 2nd half of Navy, I thought our defense was fairly solid last season.
 
Nobody stopped USC last year, except Utah when they knocked Williams out of the game in the Pac-12 championship. The first time they played, Utah won, 43-42. Oregon State did manage to hold them to 17 in a loss. But they went over 40 in most of their games.

But other than that game and the 2nd half of Navy, I thought our defense was fairly solid last season.
Caleb Williams was 28-41, 363, and played the entire PAC 12 title game against Utah, a 47-24 USC loss.

Utah kicked the shit out of USC in that game.
 
Caleb Williams was 28-41, 363, and played the entire PAC 12 title game against Utah, a 47-24 USC loss.
I'd forgotten he stayed in the game after his injury. But he wasn't the same after that. He couldn't run like he normally does. USC was winning 17-10 before that happened.
 
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