ND and other teams Remaining SOS - I fear we have peaked

[basketlax41]

The remaining SOS of the teams immediately in front and behind us. Of note - the big 12 with the 9, 23, 2, and 17 toughest remaing sos. one of those wins out, except maybe OU, they are in.

Clemson - 53
LSU - 1 (not including conf champ.)
OSU - 32 (not including conf champ.)
Bama - 34 (not including conf champ.)
ND - 47
Baylor - 9
MSU - 40 (not including conf champ.)
TCU - 23
Iowa - 56 (not including conf champ.)
Florida - 55 (not including conf champ.)
Stanford - 17 (not including conf champ.)
skipping a few...
OK ST - 2
OK - 17
FSU 37 (not including conf champ.)

 

[cgvr]

The remaining SOS of the teams immediately in front and behind us. Of note - the big 12 with the 9, 23, 2, and 17 toughest remaing sos. one of those wins out, except maybe OU, they are in.

Clemson - 53
LSU - 1 (not including conf champ.)
OSU - 32 (not including conf champ.)
Bama - 34 (not including conf champ.)
ND - 47
Baylor - 9
MSU - 40 (not including conf champ.)
TCU - 23
Iowa - 56 (not including conf champ.)
Florida - 55 (not including conf champ.)
Stanford - 17 (not including conf champ.)
skipping a few...
OK ST - 2
OK - 17
FSU 37 (not including conf champ.)

Thanks for this.... SOS is fluid and will bounce around week to week. How are you getting those numbers and what do they represent? Is it derived from the remainder schedule ranking somewhere or is it full season or season to date?

 

[mokpra37]

Clemson - 53 - They will probably win out - good for ND because it is ND's one loss.

LSU - 1 (not including conf champ.) - This is a good thing. With their limited passing game, I don't see how they go undefeated. They could loss 2 or 3 even.

OSU - 32 (not including conf champ.) - One loss and ND jumps them. There pre-poll SOS is horrible.

Bama - 34 (not including conf champ.) - Already has a loss. One more and a one-loss ND jumps them.

Baylor - 9 - Big 12 teams are going to beat each other up. Hard to see them going to KState, home OU, at OSU and at TCU without at least one loss. They could end up with two.

MSU - 40 (not including conf champ.) - Just gets by. Winner of their game with OSU is probably in.

TCU - 23 - Big 12 teams are going to beat each other up. @OK. St. , @OK. and Baylor left. Would love to see Oklahoma take them out, as a one-loss Oklahoma that lost to Texas that ND whipped doesn't get in ahead of one-loss ND.

Iowa - 56 (not including conf champ.) - SOS too low. Winner of east will smash them.

Florida - 55 (not including conf champ.) - Would have to beat bama/ole miss/lsu winner in west. Winner in, loser goes home.

Stanford - 17 (not including conf champ.) - ND beats them and goes 11-1 Stanford is out.


OK ST - 2 - No Chance - One of OK, Baylor or TCU will score 80 on them and only allow 42.

OK - 17 - Lost to Texas, ND beat Texas

FSU 37 (not including conf champ.) - Has to beat Clemson. Even then, I can't imagine them jumping over a one loss ND.

 

[MTIrish98]

Is this SOS based on just the teams we've played, or does it include the teams in front of us? If it includes the entire 12 game schedule, I don't think it'll swing drastically for anyone.

 

[basketlax41]

Is this SOS based on just the teams we've played, or does it include the teams in front of us? If it includes the entire 12 game schedule, I don't think it'll swing drastically for anyone.

it is the SOS of just the remianing games. does not look back.

can get it here.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish

 

[cgvr]

it is the SOS of just the remianing games. does not look back.

can get it here.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/fpi/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish

Thanks

 

[Duo]

The remaining SOS of the teams immediately in front and behind us. Of note - the big 12 with the 9, 23, 2, and 17 toughest remaing sos. one of those wins out, except maybe OU, they are in.

Clemson - 53
LSU - 1 (not including conf champ.)
OSU - 32 (not including conf champ.)
Bama - 34 (not including conf champ.)
ND - 47
Baylor - 9
MSU - 40 (not including conf champ.)
TCU - 23
Iowa - 56 (not including conf champ.)
Florida - 55 (not including conf champ.)
Stanford - 17 (not including conf champ.)
skipping a few...
OK ST - 2
OK - 17
FSU 37 (not including conf champ.)

Of the 8 teams that will play in a Conference Championship the likelyhood is that 3 or 4 of them will play in the final 4. Only an undefeated team has a shot at a possible place in the final 4. The bottom line is that is pretty much the way it will go from now on as long as the playoffs are limited to 4 teams.

In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four

That simply translates as ND will have to be undefeated in nearly every year in order to participate in the Final Four.

Of course, all of that changes dramatically when ND joins a conference and plays for the Conference Championship.

 

[cgvr]

Of the 8 teams that will play in a Conference Championship the likelyhood is that 3 or 4 of them will play in the final 4. Only an undefeated team has a shot at a possible place in the final 4. The bottom line is that is pretty much the way it will go from now on as long as the playoffs are limited to 4 teams.

In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four

That simply translates as ND will have to be undefeated in nearly every year in order to participate in the Final Four.

Of course, all of that changes dramatically when ND joins a conference and plays for the Conference Championship.

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

"In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four"

 

[Duo]

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

"In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four"

Watch and see

 

[cgvr]

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

"In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four"

Watch and see

Ahh, Magic 8 ball or crystal ball.

In this presentation I will assume the role of Kip and you will be Napolean.

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[Duo]

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Don't forget..............the Final Four Committee has lots of Conference influence and Conference bias. They will lean heavily toward Conference Champions.

That's just the way it is and that's why the Conferences were willing to go along with it in the first place. Otherwise, they would never have left the BCS.

Final Four Committee:

* 5 of the Power 5 AD's
* Former coaches
* other AD's
* Players
* Administrator
* Retired member of the media

Just how do you think this group will vote?

 

[88ND]

Of the 8 teams that will play in a Conference Championship the likelyhood is that 3 or 4 of them will play in the final 4. Only an undefeated team has a shot at a possible place in the final 4. The bottom line is that is pretty much the way it will go from now on as long as the playoffs are limited to 4 teams.

In most future years Conference Champions = Final Four

That simply translates as ND will have to be undefeated in nearly every year in order to participate in the Final Four.

Of course, all of that changes dramatically when ND joins a conference and plays for the Conference Championship.

ND will never join a conference. Their independence is something they are very proud of and deservedly so. They don't need to be in a conference. The brand is big enough by themselves to always garner discussion should their record warrant it.

 

[cgvr]

Don't forget..............the Final Four Committee has lots of Conference influence and Conference bias. They will lean heavily toward Conference Champions.

That's just the way it is and that's why the Conferences were willing to go along with it in the first place. Otherwise, they would never have left the BCS.

Final Four Committee:

* 5 of the Power 5 AD's
* Former coaches
* other AD's
* Players
* Administrator
* Retired member of the media

Just how do you think this group will vote?

I don't know how the season will play out. So, I can't tell you.

However, if we hold form and beat Stanford "Condie" will be doing pole dancing and lap dances at their meetings for us.

 

[mokpra37]

How do I think they will vote?

Look at the facts before you. They have voted ND #5. Lots of teams are out due to poor losses - FSU is one of them - unless there are only two or three other one loss teams. That isn't going to happen. Other one loss teams have gained respect - bama, ND - based upon the committee's vote last night.

 

[IRISHJD98]

The remaining SOS of the teams immediately in front and behind us. Of note - the big 12 with the 9, 23, 2, and 17 toughest remaing sos. one of those wins out, except maybe OU, they are in.

Clemson - 53
LSU - 1 (not including conf champ.)
OSU - 32 (not including conf champ.)
Bama - 34 (not including conf champ.)
ND - 47
Baylor - 9
MSU - 40 (not including conf champ.)
TCU - 23
Iowa - 56 (not including conf champ.)
Florida - 55 (not including conf champ.)
Stanford - 17 (not including conf champ.)
skipping a few...
OK ST - 2
OK - 17
FSU 37 (not including conf champ.)

There's different ways to look at it. A Big 12 team would make a statement by winning out, but then again the teams with the toughest schedules left - in theory - are going to have the toughest time winning out too. Scheduling the tough games for the end of the schedule cuts both ways. Great if you win out, but pretty much ends your chances if you don't - especially since the Big 12 doesn't have the big stage championship redemption game.

If Baylor or TCU goes undefeated, they've earned their spot. If that leaves us out, we should have beaten Clemson.