Telling a 20-year-old to "...gut it out..." after recently losing his mother to a long battle with Cancer is low budget.
You have no clue what the kid is going through.
Morrison out for rest of season
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You have no clue what the kid is going through.
But his best game of the season was pro ably against Stanford
Very unfortunate loss
It's brutal that he lost his mother. Heartbreaking
But it was 10 months ago and he's staying at Notre Dame for school
The move was based on playing time and giving himself the best chance at making the league
I can't hate on him for that but I can understand why some might. He did quit on his team
Give it a rest. The kid lost his mother. To Cancer. He didn't want to stay. You have no clue why he left. None.
I don't see why he couldn't come back now though, if he wanted to and the coaches were okay with it. You can't enter the portal until December 9th. So he's not in it yet. He's just an ND student who's not playing football right now.
He didn't leave. He's still here.
No I won't give it a rest. I was respectful and honest. And I'll continue to do so
OK. End of the day, you don't know shit about this. But like everything else around here, you're the resident know it all.
The number 3 CB plays a lot, though. And he could help out his own team that he used to be a part of, as they try to make the Playoff. And he could still leave after the season. You'd think that would be appealing to him.
A lot of people think like me.
If you don't, I don't give a shit
I was more respectful than others have been on the subject
Feel terrible for the kid on one hand. Devastating. But on the other hand, yes he did quit on the team after 4 games
Do I hate on him for making a decision for himself, no not really. But I understand why done people might
He was already the number 3 cb at the time he left. He wanted to be a starter and try to make the league. If he came back now, he'd be in the same position
He was getting passed by Moore for the #3 spot, though. With Morrison gone, obviously he'd move up a spot and wouldn't be in the same position. And again, he could still leave after the season and play at least one season elsewhere. He'd be giving up eligibility for a 2026 season, perhaps.
He wasn't passed up until Moore got the start and played really well. Mickey was the number 3 guy when he left. He would be the number 3 guy if he came back
He wants to start for 2 years and try to make the league.
He could play a lot the rest of this year, and then start next year somewhere else. You don't have to "start for 2 years" to make the league.
He already decided that is what he wanted to do
If he thought like you are saying, he'd still be here
Something changed earlier today, in case you didn't realize. That's the whole point of my idea.
I understand what you are saying
But for him nothing changed
He was the 3rd corner when he left. He was playing a good amount. If he came back today, he would be the 3rd corner. And would play a good amount
So for him personally, what changed?
All I know is, if the #1 CB goes down for the season, everyone else should move up a spot on the depth chart. So you'd think there'd be more PT to go around. But at any rate, we're not in charge of this, the coaching staff is. So we'll see what happens.
Bottom line ND can still go 11-1. But too many injuries and I just see 10-2 or 9-3 staring at ND around the corner. The forunate thing is he probably comes back in 2025. Because he will not get drafted before round 3 or 4 with the injury. The unfortunate thing is the schedule next year will be hard. NIU continue to haunt this program. Because 6-0 would make me more confident in 11-1.
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I think he kinda has to. He was not a guaranteed day one guy. And now he's hurt. He should come back. But.... he might jump to the NFL. Someone will draft him. Just probably late.
I get tired of the term hate on. He quit. He was selfish. He let his team down. In the back of our minds and EVERYONE associated with this team's minds we saw this coming. And so did he. His mom is not the reason. If she were the reason he would have gone in the portal in May. If she were the reason he would not be using ND for his degree and sticking around until May of next year. He came back to win the job and probably put it in his mind that he would transfer, back in August when the writing was on the wall. Selfish selfish selfish. It is not hating on him. He desreves the criticism now just like he did then.
Uggh! I jsut have a problem with letting guys off who reshirt to preserve eligibility when they are actually contributing to the team.
Agree. That was likely always the plan. Stick around and try to win the job. Don’t win the job, get as much out of it and transfer to preserve the eligibility. Selfish and wrong IMO. Transfer before or after the season.
To a very small extent, yes. That doesn’t automatically make it perfectly okay (not that you’re saying that) just like many other behaviors in life. It’s actually in the scholarship agreement that you can’t skip games or team duties.
That’s why I’d like to see an NCAA rule passed. Take the pressure off the school so they don’t get backlash for holding an athlete to the scholarship agreement.
You have zero clue it has anything to do with his mother… so stop bringing it up for no reason
And in the old days IIRC, to get a redshirt year you couldn't play at all. But at some point, they loosened the rule to allow them to play 4 games and still redshirt.
Mickey has been through a lot so don’t want to rag on him too hard. But I hope for his own sake this taught him a lesson about not quitting when things aren’t going your way. Although Moore passed him up so he probably still wouldn’t be starting.
I acknowledged that in an earlier post and agree with that decision. The old rule wasn’t fair to the school and mainly the athlete.
Now they need to make an adjustment to the rule to make it more fair for both parties IMO.
Yeah, that seems reasonable. But the rules are the rules. I'll just say it for the umpteenth time, share the money with the players, the real money, and you can come up with a CBA and institute rules against this.
Just to repeat, they're not going to make a rule against it. On account of it would limit their money-making opportunities, which is what the NCAA is not allowed to do anymore. Besides, what rule could you make, you can't force him to play. Any rule you might come up with would be very clearly punitive, and designed specifically to limit the player's ability to make money. You might not care about the money aspect of it, you just want to keep him chained to the roster. But that would be the upshot, and that would be what's illegal.
He’s a tool. Ignore. Mom upset him so much he’s staying until May on NDs. Dime. How can he concentrate on school if he’s so sad? Homesick, etc.
The problem is, you have 2 separate rules (4 games and still redshirt + transfer portal). But put them together, and you get players doing what Mickey did - playing 4 games and then bailing on their teams, to preserve a year for the transfer portal.
That’s why I’d like to see a rule that says you can’t voluntarily leave after the season has begun and keep your eligibility. The rule would supersede the normal redshirt rule.
I hear you, but what good does it do for your team to force a player who doesn't want to be there to stay? I've been around players like that and they are toxic.
