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Just a discussion

Does B Morrison return next season after the hip issue ? Is he 100 percent now but just holding out ( I don’t believe this btw )

With all the injuries and guys who got PT this season I’d have to think if everyone is healthy come next fall we will have a really deep and experienced team.
All the more reason to sway those guys who may considering the transfer portal to stay because your going to play.
Thoughts.
 
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THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
Just a discussion

Does B Morrison return next season after the hip issue ? Is he 100 percent now but just holding out ( I don’t believe this btw )

With all the injuries and guys who got PT this season I’d have to think if everyone is healthy come next fall we will have a really deep and experienced team.
All the more reason to sway those guys who may considering the transfer portal to stay because your going to play.
Thoughts.
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Agree- would be great to have him back. The secondary would be elite. It'd be a top 5 defense (might be anyways).

I've seen several mocks that still have him going in Rd 1. If he's going Rd 1, then he's likely gotta make that move.

If he thinks he may go 2, then he has to decide if he can play his way into 1.
 
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I don’t know the extent of rookie contracts or nil money But if he can make more money from nil next season that would be a huge factor I would think. I’m sure other factors are at play like is this years draft class loaded with DB etc.
 
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I was shocked to see a mock NFL draft that had Morrison going in the first round. Hope this is folly and he returns.
 
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IMO if he is not healthy enough to do the combine, he's not getting drafted in the first round, and he potentially really could come back if ND would pay him nicely.

If that's the case. I would have a 4 player rotation for 3 positions with Moore, Gray, Smith, Morrison. I would have Tae Johnson cross training between corner and Safety to take a safety spot over in 2026 (if coaches see him as potential safety).
 
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We really don't need him considering what is coming in. He is more a luxury than a need. Moore and Gray will be more experienced so one of them could decide to enter the portal for cash if they felt their PT was in jeopardy.
 
Whatever he does, good luck, and I appreciate that this hasn’t been announced yet. All hands on deck while the season is still ongoing.
 
hoopsstar12 said:
We really don't need him considering what is coming in. He is more a luxury than a need. Moore and Gray will be more experienced so one of them could decide to enter the portal for cash if they felt their PT was in jeopardy.
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This is the reality of the transfer portal. It’s so important this offseason for the staff to explain how fast you can go from second string to starter especially with a 16 game season like ND is set to play. ( including playoffs ). Depth is going to be key. Need to rotate a ton to keep the 2nd and 3 rd stringers engaged.
Or else they’ll leave. Jmo.
 
THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
This is the reality of the transfer portal. It’s so important this offseason for the staff to explain how fast you can go from second string to starter especially with a 16 game season like ND is set to play. ( including playoffs ). Depth is going to be key. Need to rotate a ton to keep the 2nd and 3 rd stringers engaged.
Or else they’ll leave. Jmo.
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It will be interesting to see if anyone chooses to leave in the post championship game window. I definitely look for some attrition in the spring window. It's inevitable. Some position groups are bursting with talent.
 
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IF I were him and there were any questions about going in the first rd this year, I would ask for enough NIL money to buy injury insurance. And come back.
 
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hoopsstar12 said:
We really don't need him considering what is coming in. He is more a luxury than a need. Moore and Gray will be more experienced so one of them could decide to enter the portal for cash if they felt their PT was in jeopardy.
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Good point. But it is true that he could return and not have it be some significant financial penalty or whatnot. Depending on how high he goes in the draft. That's what so cool about NIL for ND. They can use it to retain players, like supposedly they did with Cross and Mills, who might have gone pro if not for big NIL pay packets as inducements to return. Even if we're not super active in the portal, and would rather avoid high roster turnover.
 
Morrison is not going 1st round anymore and ND would pay for his injury insurance . He definitely would not foot the bill for that
 
burmafrd1943 said:
IF I were him and there were any questions about going in the first rd this year, I would ask for enough NIL money to buy injury insurance. And come back.
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Very interesting point !

Especially after the big paydays ND got for the 3 big playoff game revenue.

Couple of moves here , there. , we right back again in the CFP next season !
Go Irish. !
 
Technically, he is not eligible for the NFL draft according to the three year deal, now if a SEC school wants to pay him $5 million that could happen
 
It's my understanding he will be recovered and healthy for the NFL combine and pro day. Assuming he is and performs well enough to keep his first round grade. I can't see any scenario in which he returns and don't think he should. He's earned it.
 
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Latest mock draft from athletic has him end of 2nd round
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Well, if that's the draft day grade that becomes the majority then he should come back. No way he is a end of 2nd round talent before the injury. So maybe he has to play his way back into the early 20's of Rd. 1 where I believe he would've gone. Add in NIL and it makes sense.
 
He will not be ready for the combine with a hip injury. DB`s rely on hip swivel more than anything anything else being able to change direction in an instant is critical some NFL team might take a flier on him unless he has proven the injury has not hampered him than late second round might be the best scenerio
 
As another poster brought up.

The careful what you wish for scenario.

I love Ben Morrison great player etc.

But if his return causes a guy like Leonard Moore to transfer then I’d rather see him enter the draft.
Jmo.
 
THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
As another poster brought up.

The careful what you wish for scenario.

I love Ben Morrison great player etc.

But if his return causes a guy like Leonard Moore to transfer then I’d rather see him enter the draft.
Jmo.
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I doubt Moore would leave. He's a sure fire starter whether Morrison leaves or not. Best of the 3 in my opinion.
 
Moore know he will get plenty of playing time. A chance to show off at the highest level. Not likely he is going anywhere.
 
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It's very possible Leonard Moore could be bought off. If he really is the top frosh corner in the country. He knows he'd have a lucrative market for his services. If ND pays him what he's worth, he'd probably stay, but if UGA or Texas or whoever wanted him, and had a starting spot waiting for him and was going to outbid ND, absolutely he could leave. BenMo himself could hit the portal, which as far as ND is concerned is the same thing as going pro. Other than we might have to play him. But his best bet would be to return to ND, rather than transfer, on account of the injury, and not go to some strange new place. CG would be the one that doesn't start, out of the three, I would think. So he would be the one to worry about I suppose.
 
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echowaker said:
If he comes back along with the two portal additions that secondary will be ridiculously loaded.
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"If he comes back along with the two portal additions that secondary will be ridiculously loaded"

That is true -- but not to change the subject -- what are the chances that Al Golden will be the Bengals new DC after the NC Game? Read an article where he and one other are the Bengals top 2 choices?
 
Kelso86 said:
"If he comes back along with the two portal additions that secondary will be ridiculously loaded"

That is true -- but not to change the subject -- what are the chances that Al Golden will be the Bengals new DC after the NC Game? Read an article where he and one other are the Bengals top 2 choices?
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Lots and lots of chatter down here about it. 50/50 in my opinion. He seems to be loving his time at ND and working with MF but the NFL is the very top of his chosen profession. It's a very demanding job at the highest college level. The road is no fun I'm sure. Honestly he's in a win win situation and wouldn't we all love that. The question is if he does go. I'd guess the job would be Mickens if he wants it.
 
THUNDERSTRUCK111 said:
Very interesting point !

Especially after the big paydays ND got for the 3 big playoff game revenue.

Couple of moves here , there. , we right back again in the CFP next season !
Go Irish. !
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Money id fungible, but can ND use some of the money from playoff wins to pay NIL. The players deserve something for sure.
 
jerbach said:
Yes I knew but things can be moved around so that funs from other sources could be used.
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I don't know, ideally it's just supposed to be booster money. Pay for play, baby! But you're saying these dutiful boosters who would be nowhere without their ND education, and the extensive alumni 'network' you hear so much about, where one ND hand washes the other, and so they reliably kick in considerable sums to the general fund or whatever, so that ND can pay for various improvements and whatnot. And now they'd be like, dude, we got extra cash on account of our deep playoff run, just kick it down to the players, you'll be helping us more that way. We want to get back to that playoff! Which would mean even more booster money that could be freed up to pay for player salaries for the next season, it's a virtuous cycle!
 
echowaker said:
I doubt Moore would leave. He's a sure fire starter whether Morrison leaves or not. Best of the 3 in my opinion.
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How about Christian Grey ? If I remember correctly chance Tucker was ahead of Moore on the depth chart before his injury.
I guess my point is we don’t want subtraction by addition.
Have BMO come back for one season and lose a starter with 2-3 years of eligibility left would be the worse case scenario.
If they all came back that would be the ideal scenario. Jmo.
 
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