Can I witness the jury selection of "We need to find 12 disgruntled white people who are tired of being called racist?" In addition to change of venue (to Mississippi), can you also file a motion for a change in decade (to the 1930s)?
Marcellus Wiley
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Can I witness the jury selection of "We need to find 12 disgruntled white people who are tired of being called racist?" In addition to change of venue (to Mississippi), can you also file a motion for a change in decade (to the 1930s)?
Ok, again I am not disagreeing with this or even addressing it's validity I just don't see how this matters when we are talking about a defamation suit.
Unless time gives you damages or a way to get around the fact that he can argue it was his opinion and not presented as fact then no.
You know what - F&%$ all of you! You all want to sit back and slap hands go ahead. You guys won the day - keep defending people being called racist for no reason.
Absolutely Wiley should be ignored and even shunned for making such a volitale statements. When people do bad things, there are many examples, they should be called out and ridiculed appropriately for such misdeeds. I have, and am very willing to point out bad behavior of all sorts and hypocrites of all colors.
That said, there are many who look past the indecencies we see perpetrated against innocents simply because it is good for their team to do so and they seemingly have no moral compass for right and wrong.
O'Reilly, Sharpton, Beck, and others pander to moral midgets, some here, just look at what some tolerate!
That said, there are many who look past the indecencies we see perpetrated against innocents simply because it is good for their team to do so and they seemingly have no moral compass for right and wrong.
O'Reilly, Sharpton, Beck, and others pander to moral midgets, some here, just look at what some tolerate!
I don't think you're getting my point, nor to the extent they have the same thoughts, the point of JD or SAL.
I think everyone agrees that the comment was ridiculous and, as I said earlier, complete bullshit. The idea that any of us are "defending people being called racist for no reason" is ridiculous. You're sounding like an old man just yelling off on a tangent.
I am, though, telling you that your attempt to remedy this grievance by filing a defamation lawsuit is both not appropriate in this instance, nor does it have a reasonable chance of succeeding, and most importantly, will not benefit Notre Dame in its attempt to win a national championship.
That latter part is what I care about the most. You may love the idea of our coach and players getting grilled by the media on a daily or weekly basis about the lawsuit our coach filed for $1 billion dollars, but you know what - I don't particularly like that idea and I'm guessing a lot of Notre Dame fans don't either. You know what I do like? Minimizing distractions so the program I love can have a better chance at winning a national championship.
You have a valid point that the term "racist" gets thrown around too much. It's unfortunate and bothers the heck out of me. I also realize what won't help remedy that situation: your proposed solution.
My dad always told me that a lawyer would never go to heaven - I never knew what that meant until now. I will try really hard not to intend the worst for you three.
I will not post on here again. My heart is just broken by those that stand up for injustice in such an arrogant way. Say what you if you will...it will never be read by me.
I will not post on here again. My heart is just broken by those that stand up for injustice in such an arrogant way. Say what you if you will...it will never be read by me.
You really are being intentionally obtuse.
Neither myself, nor JD nor SAL have ever said that we supported Marcellus Wiley's statement. All of us have said that the idea of a lawsuit is the improper way to fight back.
If you want to throw a toddler's fit about it, then that's your prerogative. I find life too short to be attaching words to people that they never said, and then getting angry about it.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
People like you are whats wrong with America. Always stereotyping. Disgruntled white people? Change venue to Mississippi? I live in Mississippi now and it is nothing like the sixties.
NDEwing is set in the old ways. Crazy left wing nutjob !
The previous poster has stated that his success of winning is contingent on 12 white people being upset that they are being called racist. If you're going to find a jury pool that feels that way, you're going to have to travel to the deep south and go back 80 years, as I suggested. I made no comment on the current state of things in Mississippi.
I should also add: do you know what you do as an attorney when you select a jury? You stereotype. You want a jury made up of people that you think generally will understand your argument better. Sometimes that's young mothers. Sometimes that's old white men. That's how it goes. Frankly, if you were trying the case that Irish Grandeur wants to pursue, you'd be an idiot to want it located in, say, San Francisco, as opposed to Mississippi (assuming you had that choice).
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I am sorry I broke your heart... that is an insane thing to say but I am sorry.
As an amends I will leave this gem from my middle school dances for your. I think I made out to Reagan Smith behind the Choir hall in 8th grade to this one...
Some of the greatest people in this worlds history have been lawyers and to denigrate them as has been done here by small minded people is beyond ignorance. I suppose we can at least applaud the consistency of ignorant thought.
hahahahah c'mon little fella it doesn't surprise me that you can't follow logic about the legal system.
Bodi where do you live in Mississippi? My mom grew up in Jackson, we used to always have summer trips to Jackson and Vicksburg... damn summer in Mississippi can get miserable.
If you have never heard of him, then I do not think you can think of him as the face of ESPN. He is a former NFL player.
It has been already been commented upon, but if a majority of Americans are thinking the same as you then there would be commentary on all media outlets. It is not even likely that majority of Americans care one iota about such a statement about a college coach so I truly doubt a majority of Americans are upset at these comments.
Likewise, it is doubtful that ESPN as a company holds the same opinion as Wiley, but they are free to decide if action is needed. If consumers do not like the comments of ESPN personnel, the consumers can stop watching.
Based on this comment, you seemed to have lost track of the point of discussion and the reason for Ewing's post
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
I live about 90 miles away from Jackson. I used to go to Jackson a lot on Saturday mornings to run 5k's. Your right. It is hot as hell down here in the Summer. Especially when I run in the mornings.
I was born and raised in upstate N.Y. But I am so glad I don't live up North anymore. The winters up there are so long. I love the winters down here---it is like fall.
I also have many musician friends here--- A forklift driver I hired at my work was in the Willie Nile band back around 1980--they used to play at CBGB'S in New York City and got a record deal and they opened for the Who (Peter Townsend really likes Willie Niles work) at Madison Square Garden among some other places in the NorthEast. They were recording an album at the same recording studio that John Lennon was the day he was shot.
My friend also plays with Steve Fobert who had a hit "Romeo's tune". He has also played on Austin city limits a few times. (Your stomping grounds)--that is why I brought up the music since you live in a very music oriented city.
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What a bunch of bs. The usual know it alls on this thread are so hypocritical it's not even funny. If it were the other way around, they'd be screaming their llungs out. As long as the supposed defamation is against a white man, then no worries, but turn the tables, and they'd be crying like the little ultra-liberal babies they are. I would love to see a liberal defend a white man w/ as much fervor as they defend non-whites for similar supposed defamations. I won't hold my breath though.
I don't think anyone is defending the statement. I do think that myself, as well as others, are saying that the filing of a lawsuit is not the appropriate avenue to address the situation if the goal is to have a successful lawsuit, nor is the lawsuit going to do anything else other than hurt Notre Dame's chances at a national championship this year.
If President Obama, for example, wanted to sue Glenn Beck for calling him a racist, I'd have the same suggestion for the president that I had for Brian Kelly in this thread.
No one is defending Wiley though. In fact everyone agrees he was wrong and what he said was bad.
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Congrat to SAL, Ive been reading his posts for a year and this is the first argument he has won., Of course, he needed 2 other lawyers to win it for him, but hey, a win is a win. And he came off looking like a complete ahole. But, it's a win.
