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Forgot to add. Look at our offensive line the past few years ,almost all of the OL composed of 4-5 star players. Zach Martin, Chris Watt,Braxton Cave, Nick Martin, Ronnie Stanley ,all in the pros. This year we have Q ,Nelson , A Bars,McGlinchey ,Hoge ,Kraemer , Boudreaux , Montelus , Mustpher ,etc again 4-5 star offensive linemen. We need this kind of talent on the DL
Yeah, I mean they just grow on trees & all?!
You are the same people who say "I can go so far with 100k a year, but I could do so much better with a million." No shit? Why doesn't someone just give it to you?
ok, since the point escaped you, let me help. What was posted was that you need some impact defensive linemen to compete WITH the teams that are getting those type players.
That is not a judgement statement but a statement more about reality.
again, see the comment you quoted! yep!
That is not a judgement statement but a statement more about reality.
again, see the comment you quoted! yep!
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
I went ahead and deleted the post like you said. You are a wise man.
Ara...
you seem cemented in a mindset that will never listen to reason, ignores any data that does not further cement pre concieved notion...you will never be someone that would have interesting exchanges with me. If you want Mr Sunshine pumper as your 'man'. good luck with that: your a man short there!
It is a forum, discussions are not always what you want to hear or responses you will agree with.
I do encourage you utilize the ignore list to avoid my entries, I will contribute to our solution by assisting on my end also.
I will take your post above as your last read post and hopefully this is the last 'perse' post you need to endure.
when your retorts are primarily poster targets and not topic directed : cya.
you seem cemented in a mindset that will never listen to reason, ignores any data that does not further cement pre concieved notion...you will never be someone that would have interesting exchanges with me. If you want Mr Sunshine pumper as your 'man'. good luck with that: your a man short there!
It is a forum, discussions are not always what you want to hear or responses you will agree with.
I do encourage you utilize the ignore list to avoid my entries, I will contribute to our solution by assisting on my end also.
I will take your post above as your last read post and hopefully this is the last 'perse' post you need to endure.
when your retorts are primarily poster targets and not topic directed : cya.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
The Clemson game showed how much character the Notre Dame players had. They were getting blown out early in one of the most hostile enviroments in college football during a damn hurricane. Yet despite all that and all the turnovers by the young Irish team they came fighting back and almost tied it up in the final seconds. It was a heartbreaking loss but the Irish never quit.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Ara, I'm increasingly of the opinion that finding high upside three stars is critical to success on the field. Yes, the five star guys are usually very successful, but will trust the coaches evaluations over the three and four star ratings every time. I think Kelly has put together a staff that are very good in making these evaluations, and I continue to be impressed by the quality and upside of the three star kids we are getting. As you may recall, I put Perse on ignore several months ago as I got sick of the same negative crap he posts, the stupidity of his view of the worth of his own film evaluations, and his penchant for telling anyone who disagrees that they are glacially stupid, while professing that he never attacks another poster until attacked, etc... While I appreciate your commitment to not use the ignore feature, I have to tell you that I have enjoyed not reading his hypocritical negative same theme drivel. Hope you enjoy a great Father's Day.
on Mac and Pouncey
reading opinions on TOS, heated because someone indicated Sampson did not call him 'elite'.
But more interesting were the comparisons to KLM. KLM came in a bit higher rated. He grew a bit and was a reliable stay at home DE. He did not really ever excel at rushing the passer. JMO but if J Mac can add the size (his frame says he can) and if he can move inside, where he might be comsidered a less athletic DE he would be considered an athletic DT. As I agreed with NDF that this was a 'take' kind of kid (an agrred upon point missed by NDF) it will be interesting to see what the S&C coaches do with him. ND needs DT's that have some athleticism and at that interior position he can develop into such a player. It is hard to get a reliable rating where you see a position change in the prospects future.
While Pouncey may be similarly rated, his star was rising late. Bama and UF were new suitors so this kid has some talent that is showing as a later bloomer. Expect his star to grow. They say he lacks elite speed? But it seems he has football speed. He has soft hands - catches the ball effortlessly - gets separation and he does not seem to get caught from behind! He is a step faster than the guy chasing him: fast enough! Except for the deep talent in front of him, It will be easier to get early production out of Pouncey than it will be from a project like J Mac.
reading opinions on TOS, heated because someone indicated Sampson did not call him 'elite'.
But more interesting were the comparisons to KLM. KLM came in a bit higher rated. He grew a bit and was a reliable stay at home DE. He did not really ever excel at rushing the passer. JMO but if J Mac can add the size (his frame says he can) and if he can move inside, where he might be comsidered a less athletic DE he would be considered an athletic DT. As I agreed with NDF that this was a 'take' kind of kid (an agrred upon point missed by NDF) it will be interesting to see what the S&C coaches do with him. ND needs DT's that have some athleticism and at that interior position he can develop into such a player. It is hard to get a reliable rating where you see a position change in the prospects future.
While Pouncey may be similarly rated, his star was rising late. Bama and UF were new suitors so this kid has some talent that is showing as a later bloomer. Expect his star to grow. They say he lacks elite speed? But it seems he has football speed. He has soft hands - catches the ball effortlessly - gets separation and he does not seem to get caught from behind! He is a step faster than the guy chasing him: fast enough! Except for the deep talent in front of him, It will be easier to get early production out of Pouncey than it will be from a project like J Mac.
Pers is why the ignore button was invented. Use it.
Just noticed Josh Adams was a 5.7 three star.
He ended up passing a lot of 4 & 5 star RBs last year as a true freshman.
Hopefully we have more 3* guys like Adams.
NDAFArly, I don't keep track of star ratings, and quickly forget as this is irrelevant once they are competing on the team. But I think there are many many examples of low rated three star guys who have been excellent contributors over the past several years. Fuller comes to mind.
^ a D-A statement. Poor Bama, poor tOSU, ... those teams in contention having to print up Bowl tickets and schedule flights to post season games!
To think all they had to do to avoid that would be to avoid recruiting the better players! They can always follow ND's lead as outlined by you.
You might want to contact the Kelly staff, they are working their asses of to land the 5* prospects; guys like Henry or Elliot or Fournette! You know those 'busts'; they could be getting more Barry Gallops!
Coach Kelly and Staff, please take the rest of the recruiting season off, you can probably fill the rest of the class with the Purdue leftovers! Enjoy your summer vacation!
Then come NC Monday in January no one has to interupt their schedule to watch ND play in the game! You can all join that winter bowling league with no fear of scheduling conflict!
To think all they had to do to avoid that would be to avoid recruiting the better players! They can always follow ND's lead as outlined by you.
You might want to contact the Kelly staff, they are working their asses of to land the 5* prospects; guys like Henry or Elliot or Fournette! You know those 'busts'; they could be getting more Barry Gallops!
Coach Kelly and Staff, please take the rest of the recruiting season off, you can probably fill the rest of the class with the Purdue leftovers! Enjoy your summer vacation!
Then come NC Monday in January no one has to interupt their schedule to watch ND play in the game! You can all join that winter bowling league with no fear of scheduling conflict!
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Yeah, I just like to look back at some of the good players & see what people ranked them.
first you do this: (I have; and others have and posted the answers on this board)
Your flaw is typical: exception is not the rule.
do a 12 year lookback:
list the top 12 recruiting classes
then circle the eventual NC participants and the winner.
Look at where your circles are.
then after that, list the Nationally significant games since 1994 that ND has played in and won! (doing this one won't cause you to be late for dinner)
Recruiting is the 'driver' to build contending teams and W meaningful games.
(warning: if you do not want to know the answer, don't ask the question)
Your flaw is typical: exception is not the rule.
do a 12 year lookback:
list the top 12 recruiting classes
then circle the eventual NC participants and the winner.
Look at where your circles are.
then after that, list the Nationally significant games since 1994 that ND has played in and won! (doing this one won't cause you to be late for dinner)
Recruiting is the 'driver' to build contending teams and W meaningful games.
(warning: if you do not want to know the answer, don't ask the question)
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Under those same assumptions can you admit ND can no longer recruit the players the other schools do in the same ways since 1994?
I saw Holtz in person speak about ND standards from a coaching perspective, & when a question came from the audience about Randy Moss he made a point that still sticks with me.
He said at the beginning of a recruiting cycle the ND coach had to eliminate about 20-25 kids right off the top because they aren't getting in. He said then there are about 10-15 guys he talks to administration about ahead of time to see if he had a chance to get them in. That a large number of top recruits don't want to even deal with that process & eliminate ND before the staff can even offer. That many of the 5* players see college as a stopping point before the pros, & even though they do attend classes & pursue actual degrees, it's not half the work as it is a ND where they are expected to perform academically so they go elsewhere. Holtz said even with the restrictions he got in players that ND can't get today.
ND gets quality young men, who graduate with actual degrees, who also happen to be top 10-15 football recruiting classes. I'm actually amazed we still get top 10 talent these days with what our coaches & recruits are expected to do.
1st sentence: of course!
but that does not stop ND from trying to recruit them!
but clearly the preference is a highly rated player over a lower rated player.
recruiting 3 star prospects in NOT the magic formula to win the NC.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Ara, good post, I think I remember Josh Adams had a huge sophomore or junior season and many scouts say he was n his way to being a 5 star running back but he had a bad knee injury that hurt his production so many thought he had lost a step and they dropped him to a 3 star on a few services. The Irish staff kept on him hard through all that.
Knee injurys don't mean the same as in the old days because of what Doctors can do now a days.
***I think Josh Adams is going to be a super star.
I agree. The numbers he put up last year as a frosh in a part time role was pretty damn impressive. He just oozes talent and he has the fortune of running behind one of the best OLs in the country this season.
Mac is more highly regarded among fans of the various sites than his rating reflects; a lot of excitement over his being Irish!
That is a pleasant surprise, and I hope the expectations are proven correct!
(why is Scout still listing him as an offensive lineman?)
That is a pleasant surprise, and I hope the expectations are proven correct!
(why is Scout still listing him as an offensive lineman?)
