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But wait a second! ND commits are supposed to drop in the rankings. Surprised to see his rise, but happy for the kid!Remember way back when Kyle Hamilton was a 3 Star, actually borderline 2 Star, & I said that was criminal?
Remember when I said he was the best Safety at the Opening Finals & a couple posters called me an idiot & blah, blah, blah?
Remember when I said he should be a 5 Star?
Remember when I said the coaches recruiting him see something the recruiting services haven’t seen yet, & people argued that was foolish?
Well, guess who is now the 22nd ranked player in the country & 2nd ranked Safety in the country on today’s new top 100 on the other site?
That site gives 5 Stars to the top 32 players on NSD, he is 22nd & rising.
He is having an amazing Senior year already.
Congrats Kyle!
But wait a second! ND commits are supposed to drop in the rankings. Surprised to see his rise, but happy for the kid!
That's not a myth, there's years of empirical evidence to support it.But wait a second! ND commits are supposed to drop in the rankings. Surprised to see his rise, but happy for the kid!
I actually think every single other ND commit did drop. But not considerably.
Remember way back when Kyle Hamilton was a 3 Star, actually borderline 2 Star, & I said that was criminal?
Remember when I said he was the best Safety at the Opening Finals & a couple posters called me an idiot & blah, blah, blah?
Remember when I said he should be a 5 Star?
Remember when I said the coaches recruiting him see something the recruiting services haven’t seen yet, & people argued that was foolish?
Well, guess who is now the 22nd ranked player in the country & 2nd ranked Safety in the country on today’s new top 100 on the other site?
That site gives 5 Stars to the top 32 players on NSD, he is 22nd & rising.
He is having an amazing Senior year already.
Congrats Kyle!
That's not a myth, there's years of empirical evidence to support it.
Farly,
As long as I can remember (save a couple people who follow Notre Dame recruiting on various forums) that vast majority of people have been saying that Hamilton is vastly underrated and it was foregone conclusion that he'd eventually make a jump.
I've long been saying that it is likely that ND signs 1-2 top 100 commits, which although unfortunate, has always included Hamilton as one of them.
I understand your excitement, but I'm not sure who the people are that so vehemently disagreed with you regarding Hamilton.
No one called anyone an idiot. You were putting the cart before the horse.
When he was a 3 star. That was a correct ranking description, until it was not.
Self praise is shallow. And factually, you did not know anything more than any other
fan that followed recruiting.
But, keep on patting yourself on the back if it is what you need to boost your self esteem.
There are two, that is why I said “a couple” in my OP. I know who they are (have them both on ignore now) & what they said.
I’m not going to link their posts on here, but I just looked at them & they were pretty negative.
Where they negative about you or Hamilton? There is a difference. I do not think I have read a single post on this board that was not favorable about Hamilton.
Hamilton’s offer list has indicated for some time that he was a worst kept secret.
As to The updated 247 ranking, please post the ranking you are referring to in your OP. As of today are you saying he is ranked #22 and their site is not correct?
To give you the quick summary:
I have always made it clear I’m not an evaluator or scout. But I know some & have ones I trust very much. So whenever I discuss evaluations I will state who’s evaluation it is, and I trust them.
Back when I first pushed Hamilton there were two people who argued that Hamilton wasn’t as good as I am was stating. If he was, he wouldn’t be that low. Then after he was blowing up at camps I reiterated what I was originally told than added that according to multiple Secondary coaches at the camps Hamilton was the best Safety there, better than the couple 5 Stars. Then the two really argued that with me, saying he was just one of the guys, not better. (Even though that’s what the coaches actually said).
So the debate went on for a while, then continuing their stance that Hamilton was not a top Safety. It came obvious to me they didn’t know, they were just being anti-everything. So I ignored them.
Good to know ND will sign one of the 'difference makers' that alludes them every year. Because the same kid wasn't one a week ago
But you missed that point. Your say so is not infallible testimony. He ranking is or was was his ranking.
Even now, a few years from now that will not change the present.
Again, everyone I saw post had favorable comments about Hamilton. If you encountered a debate, it may have been more about a confrontation with you, not about the player.
No.
It wasnt my opinion.
I linked the comments & article from the evaluators (Safety Coaches) who were at the events. His ranking was wrong. The posters I’m referencing argued that he wasn’t as good as what I was linking them. Even with national evaluators at the Opening Finals saying he was the best Safety, they argued he wasn’t at that level.
I’m not going to keep going over it on here. I can message you the actual posts if you like?
Side note: just because you didn’t see it (or remember it) doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I don’t expect you to read all my conversations or remember one that doesn’t involve you. But you would probably agree I would remember one that went on for weeks that involves myself.
But just for you I will edit the OP, so not to take away from Kyle.
Kyle Hamilton.
The recruit chaseballs wants...but doesn’t even come in & acknowledge him.
Awesome player. I hope ND can keep him down the stretch. A Hamilton, Griffith, Allen, safety + rover combination could be elite.
In a lot of ways real recruiting starts about the time the actual season starts. Things will really crank up in late Oct through January.
As to Hamilton, we have no idea as to how he envisions football in his life plan. He nowseems a big time prospect and that opinion seems reenforced as is ranking has improved. Is he thinking football as a career where maybe 7 months ago that was more a dream than viewed as a goal. Home state, UGA will be putting on a full court press. Bama will want time in his ear. And of course there is Meyer and Dabo. Buckle up.
His family is Ivy Leaguers. His brother plays basketball at Penn.
He visited Ohio State, then Georgia the weekend before he committed to ND.
The word was he wasn’t impressed with UGA, he was very serious about academics & they didn’t even discuss them.
And let’s be honest. If you are good enough to be in the NFL you will have ALL the exposure you need at ND.
Has Stanford courted him as yet?
Yes.
He has cleared admissions at (and been offered by):
Stanford
Harvard
Penn
Princeton
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
Duke
Heck, who needs football!
In a lot of ways real recruiting starts about the time the actual season starts. Things will really crank up in late Oct through January.
As to Hamilton, we have no idea as to how he envisions football in his life plan. He nowseems a big time prospect and that opinion seems reenforced as is ranking has improved. Is he thinking football as a career where maybe 7 months ago that was more a dream than viewed as a goal. Home state, UGA will be putting on a full court press. Bama will want time in his ear. And of course there is Meyer and Dabo. Buckle up.
Exactly.
He was just interviewed by our mods, & to say the kid is thoughtful & impressive would be an understatement.
Aside from Derek Allen transferring, I feel pretty damn good about my above post lol. I'm glad that my over the top comments about Hamilton are trending towards being true.
We both were on the Kyle Hamilton train.
I actually stopped short of posting the thread where a couple of guys bashed us for being so positive on Kyle.
When we both said Kyle was 5 Star and as good as anybody at the Opening Finals, one poster berated is as homers...
Aside from Derek Allen transferring, I feel pretty damn good about my above post lol. I'm glad that my over the top comments about Hamilton are trending towards being true.
Foskey is much much longer than Hayes.... hopefully foskey has a ade type year in 2020.You should replace Osafo-Mensah with Foskey above. He’s a Daelin Hayes clone. You weren’t wrong though as Foskey hadn’t committed yet. He’s going to be a beast.