Know means NO for Malik

[Bodizephax]

What narrative did I bend about coach Kelly?

I gave him credit on several things he has done

Hiring of assistant coaches being one of best attributes As far as being critical QB development and initial offensive philosophies w/o a defense that can handle the pace being the major.

The ONLY time I was wrong about Weis was when I thought midway through the 09' season it would end better

I will man up and state I was very wrong about coach Diaco. The 2012 defense is the only reason coach Kelly is still HC at ND. If it wasn't for that defense and some breaks HD would of been the same 9-3/8-4 team we've come to see through 3 qters of coach Kellies career at ND

Let me ask you ?

Wasn't coach Kelly consider an offensive mind? A developer of QB's?

. In 5 season's has that come to pass? Hell the offense was more know for the ridicules amount of turnovers more than anything else. Isn't five season enough to correct that?

For me unlike some I could care less what offense is being run. as long as there is progress. I loved the running game because I've seen the results at ND. At this point the spread has failed miserably. For some reason it seems to be hard to recruit top defensive front personnel at ND. Therefore you need to critique with whom you can get thus you need some sort of ball controlled offense in order to not beat the crap out of the defense's time on the field.

You could see in the LSU game the ball was being controlled by the offense because of the lack of experience MZ had going into it. The Irish were running the offense in a manor to control the clock. Low and behold look what came of it.

Surely coach Kelly didn't expect MZ to be the man, or he would started him way before the LSU game.

So please tell me how I am bending any narrative. I didn't even bring up the utter lack of special teams in the first five season, or the head scratch calls suck as going for TD's when short FG's would of won the game.

DIP, It is going to be a long sad year for you and the other Coach Kelly and Notre Dame haters.
The Irish are going 14 and 0 and Coach Kelly is one of the big reasons.
I don't care who is coach ! I always want Notre Dame to win !!
Dane Crist was a terrible QB. You and Purse blame Coach Kelly for not developing him.
Get over it ! Crist was a great young man but a TERRIBLE qb (maybe all the injuries he had hurt his development or maybe he didn't have the ice in his veins that Malik does !
We just beat Texas 38 to 3 and we are going to steam roll everyone else on the schedule !!
Go Irish !
Beat Virginia !! 48 to 13 !!

 

[deadirishpoet]

DIP, It is going to be a long sad year for you and the other Coach Kelly and Notre Dame haters.
The Irish are going 14 and 0 and Coach Kelly is one of the big reasons.
I don't care who is coach ! I always want Notre Dame to win !!
Dane Crist was a terrible QB. You and Purse blame Coach Kelly for not developing him.
Get over it ! Crist was a great young man but a TERRIBLE qb (maybe all the injuries he had hurt his development or maybe he didn't have the ice in his veins that Malik does !
We just beat Texas 38 to 3 and we are going to steam roll everyone else on the schedule !!
Go Irish !
Beat Virginia !! 48 to 13 !!

[

Bodi

Why is it going to be a long year for me?

I see the Irish doing good thing this season.

Oh by the way you for got to mention coach Kelly also didn't develop Rees, Hendrix, Golson, and we've see every little of MZ but I do like what I've seen

The Irish just beat a not up to Texas standard team, and I expect them to stomp a bad Virginia team.

How old are you by the way?

To disagree with all things Bodi does not make one a hater

 

[floridairish]

You want 5 things on the Tallahassee guy?
Sure...
1. He would stare down his primary read
2. He would see the pass rush and not feel it.
3. He would hitch the ball up and down in the pocket leaving it exposed to defenders.
4. He would not take a sack or throw the ball. away.
5. His mechanics were sloppy and he was. not consistently accurate.
6. He was mentally weak and fell apart and. had to be pulled in several games.
7. His decision making off the field was poor. and not reflective of a leader.
8. He was clueless in pass protection, was horrible in pre snap recognition and was like a deer in the headlights when the blitz showed. How many timeouts were wasted because the guy from Tallahassee had no idea what he was looking at?

Sorry that's 8 and there's more but I'm getting tired. Had ND had a competent QB and a FG Holder they would of averaged 35 points per game last year.

 

[deadirishpoet]

You want 5 things on the Tallahassee guy?
Sure...
1. He would stare down his primary read
2. He would see the pass rush and not feel it.
3. He would hitch the ball up and down in the pocket leaving it exposed to defenders.
4. He would not take a sack or throw the ball. away.
5. His mechanics were sloppy and he was. not consistently accurate.
6. He was mentally weak and fell apart and. had to be pulled in several games.
7. His decision making off the field was poor. and not reflective of a leader.
8. He was clueless in pass protection, was horrible in pre snap recognition and was like a deer in the headlights when the blitz showed. How many timeouts were wasted because the guy from Tallahassee had no idea what he was looking at?

Sorry that's 8 and there's more but I'm getting tired. Had ND had a competent QB and a FG Holder they would of averaged 35 points per game last year.

So whose fault is it for these short comings?

I'm mean after all that was his targeted recruit?

 

[no1e]

So whose fault is it for these short comings?

I'm mean after all that was his targeted recruit?

Funny thing happened in Tally this weekend. Not one of those eight short comings that apparently occurred regularly in South Bend were evident at all in Tally.

Realizing it's only game one against an inferior opponent Golson was pretty much dead on in eliminating all eight mentioned shortcomings with an abbreviated playbook to work with to boot. Great start for Golson. One game at a time.

 

[Duo]

Prior to the season Golson was on the Heisman watch list. His performance in the first game justified his ranking. Will he stay there? That remains to be seen and depends as much on the team's success as it does on Golson's performance. The days of Heisman Trophy QB's with multiple losses (i.e. John Elway) seem to have passed. Meanwhile, hope is alive and well for Golson fans from FSU and Golson's ND fellow graduates and other fans.

 

[Toby Smart]

As an Irish fan, I care not about the success of FSU or EG. Call it complete apathy if you want. Time to move on with MZ.

 

[floridairish]

A coach instructs and it's up to the player to receive the message. Apparently Malik Zaire embraces coaching because I saw none of those 8 problems against a REAL opponent from a Power 5 Conference.

Brian Kelly is 1,000,000% more accomplished as a Coach, then the guy from Tallahassee is as a player. So if Brian Kelly's message wasn't getting through; it was because Tallahassee didn't want to hear it or was just too dumb to comprehend it. Either way that's why he's Jimbo Fishers left over dinner.

We've seen the guy from Tallassee show out against B Rate competition. (Texas St) *yawn* Talk to me when Brent Venables of Clemson is throwing the kitchen sink at him and his eyes look dish saucers, his lower lip puffs out pouting and the ball is rolling all over the field.

 

[no1e]

A coach instructs and it's up to the player to receive the message. Apparently Malik Zaire embraces coaching because I saw none of those 8 problems against a REAL opponent from a Power 5 Conference.

Brian Kelly is 1,000,000% more accomplished as a Coach, then the guy from Tallahassee is as a player. So if Brian Kelly's message wasn't getting through; it was because Tallahassee didn't want to hear it or was just too dumb to comprehend it. Either way that's why he's Jimbo Fishers left over dinner.

We've seen the guy from Tallassee show out against B Rate competition. (Texas St) *yawn* Talk to me when Brent Venables of Clemson is throwing the kitchen sink at him and his eyes look dish saucers, his lower lip puffs out pouting and the ball is rolling all over the field.

Right back at you Florida. Texas was a huge disappointment and offered little in the way of competition. Strong has his work cut out this year. Would be surprised if Texas is bowl eligible. Would be surprised if State isn't. In fact, if the two inferior opponents were playing this week I wouldn't be surprised if the game would be a pick 'm kind of vegas game at best.

Point is not to compare the two QB's. Both had outstanding opening games against inferior competition. Good for them and their teams. Let's wait and see how they fair against some quality defenses. Both programs have some common opponents. We'll get a better feel on the two QB's after that.

The big difference will be that regardless of the outcome I won't be message board flaming Zaire but supporting him regardless of results. Doubt you will be be saying anything positive about Golson even if he were to win the Heisman (which is unlikely).

 

[john0gaunt]

I think all of us are proud and thankful that the starting QB of fsu is not a rapist. That is a definite improvement and allows all of us to be a little more proud of the sport we all support. Also, fsu now has a bonafide college graduate on their team. They had no potential college graduates on that team, now they have the real deal. I'm happy for the noles. They only have one player on the team that is known to beat down defenseless women. That's an improvement over last year for sure.

 

[BigFellaFan]

Is Mo1e actually trying to compare Texas State to Texas as equals?

That simply proves what a moron he is again. Texas averages 3.5 stars while TSU barely recruits rated players.

Then again, mo1e's presence here is only to lie and inflame. What a jerk!

 

[Duo]

As an Irish fan, I care not about the success of FSU or EG. Call it complete apathy if you want. Time to move on with MZ.

.....Jack,

Understand completely. That's your right.

However, there are Golson fans here and CFB fans that are watching Golson just because he used to lead the Irish and he is an alumnus and he is on the Heisman watch list. Add all that up and it makes for some pretty interesting conversation for message board posters and drama for the media.

PS. Not that it has anything to do with you Jack but when a poster here refers to Golson as "that guy from Tallahassee" while making comparisons that is just knee slapping hilarious! That's right up there with "my daddy can whip your daddy"! Bwahahahahahahahah!

 

[Cheesebiz]

.....Jack,

Understand completely. That's your right.

However, there are Golson fans here and CFB fans that are watching Golson just because he used to lead the Irish and he is an alumnus and he is on the Heisman watch list. Add all that up and it makes for some pretty interesting conversation for message board posters and drama for the media.

PS. Not that it has anything to do with you Jack but when a poster here refers to Golson as "that guy from Tallahassee" while making comparisons that is just knee slapping hilarious! That's right up there with "my daddy can whip your daddy"! Bwahahahahahahahah!

"That guy from Tallahassee" You guys are histerical. He's an alum from your school. FSU fans rally around their former players when they don't work out for whatever reason. They are family. This is a free board. Don't you think recruits read them? EG will never be called "that guy from South Bend" in Tallahassee. We respected him the night he played us a year ago before we ever knew he was coming to Tally.

Good luck with your new QB.

 

[BigFellaFan]

Golson will always be known as the ND qb first because of the higher profile of the two programs and how he would most certainly want to be remembered for obvious reasons.

 

[Cheesebiz]

Golson will always be known as the ND qb first because of the higher profile of the two programs and how he would most certainly want to be remembered for obvious reasons.

Higher profile. That's funny Big Fella

 

[john0gaunt]

It's Monday morning after the first game of the season. Are you at the ND message board or the fsu board? Higher profile would seem to be an apt description at least for you.

 

[Cheesebiz]

Is Mo1e actually trying to compare Texas State to Texas as equals?

That simply proves what a moron he is again. Texas averages 3.5 stars while TSU barely recruits rated players.

Then again, mo1e's presence here is only to lie and inflame. What a jerk!

Do your homework fella. Texas State is #62. Average stars 2.1. Oh and Texas is #54. TS is better than GT, UMass, Navy, Temple, and Pitt. All teams on your schedule this year. They were also 2 star plus last season. And they were bowl eligible the last two seasons. Maybe you should add them to your future schedule as an updgrade.

 

[floridairish]

You may have noticed I don't even mention the players name. He is nothing, I was comparing and contrasting and illustrating why Malik Zaire is superior to last year's QB in every way a QB can be superior. Last year's QB left because he was not good enough to start for ND this year. Period.

FSU is irrelevant to me other than Travis Rudolph who I coached in HS. Other than rooting for Travis personally FSU football is just another football program ND does not play this year. Meaningless.

 

[Duo]

FWIW, I must agree with Cheesebiz..............

All the FSU fans I know are rooting big time for QB Jake Coker (transferred from FSU when he was behind Jameis Winston) to be successful at Alabama. And FSU fans typically don't like Alabama much. If (big IF this year) Golson can lead FSU to the playoffs this there would be a fairly good chance of going up against Jake Coker and the Tide. But even if that happened Seminole fans would still be rooting for Jake..........and why not!

There is no doubt that many ND alumni and fans are actually rooting for Everett Golson and wish him success on the field and in the Heisman voting as well. Hey..........a number of those fans are right here on this board! Good will toward men.

 

[no1e]

I think all of us are proud and thankful that the starting QB of fsu is not a rapist. That is a definite improvement and allows all of us to be a little more proud of the sport we all support. Also, fsu now has a bonafide college graduate on their team. They had no potential college graduates on that team, now they have the real deal. I'm happy for the noles. They only have one player on the team that is known to beat down defenseless women. That's an improvement over last year for sure.

So let me guess.... You are trying to supplant our Argus alias as the biggest jerk of the year. Or are you just another in the long list of his usernames here to embarrassed ND. Sure sound like the delusional creep.

 

[no1e]

Golson will always be known as the ND qb first because of the higher profile of the two programs and how he would most certainly want to be remembered for obvious reasons.

Wake up..This is not the '40 or '50 anymore.

Still waiting to hear all about your 40 year decision.

Trust me, he would love to be remembered as the FSU QB that led them to
the playoffs again.

It's killing you and it's so obvious.

 

[no1e]

Is Mo1e actually trying to compare Texas State to Texas as equals?

That simply proves what a moron he is again. Texas averages 3.5 stars while TSU barely recruits rated players.

Then again, mo1e's presence here is only to lie and inflame. What a jerk!

Irony again ......You will never catch me lying or inflaming. You can't say that about yourself.

Based on this past weekend the two Texas teams were about equal on the field. As mentioned, State will probably again be bowl eligible and UT probably not. State is expected to be a conference champion contender. UT not so much. If they played each other it would be a flip of the coin. State has by far the better QB.

 

[john0gaunt]

Or are you just another in the long list of his usernames here to embarrassed ND. Sure sound like the delusional creep.

Whoever Argus is, he absolutely owns you. You spend an unhealthy amount of time stalking an anonymous poster on a ND message board attacking them for being pro ND. I've been on the internet a long long time and I have never seen anyone owned the way epic/bigfella owns you. You need a life. YOU ARE HIS LITTLE WOMAN!

 

[BigFellaFan]

Whoever Argus is, wherever Argus is, he must be very proud to see Mo1e wet his pants every time someone points to another one of Mo1e's never ending lies. There is no question that Argus has destroyed Mo1e's brain cells by getting under his skin so bad he has Mo1e waking up sick every morning knowing he can't defend what he has lied about.

It is good to see.

 

[no1e]

Whoever Argus is, he absolutely owns you. You spend an unhealthy amount of time stalking an anonymous poster on a ND message board attacking them for being pro ND. I've been on the internet a long long time and I have never seen anyone owned the way epic/bigfella owns you. You need a life. YOU ARE HIS LITTLE WOMAN!

You just removed all doubt. And with your post count you qualify as a rookie.

That said , Argus and his merry band of usernames agreeing with his selves owns no one. Not even himselves.

He's mentally ill. Just ask the REAL ND fans here. Not the frauds.

 

[BigFellaFan]

^^^^^. See what I mean!

This is the same guy that said Bowden and FSU never cheating and Kelly should have been charged with murder.

One real sick bastard!

 

[sharkfan83]

Do your homework fella. Texas State is #62. Average stars 2.1. Oh and Texas is #54. TS is better than GT, UMass, Navy, Temple, and Pitt. All teams on your schedule this year. They were also 2 star plus last season. And they were bowl eligible the last two seasons. Maybe you should add them to your future schedule as an updgrade.

Woahhh......Did I just read that right coming from the big Cheese? Please tell me that you did not just say that TS (Texas State) is better than the likes of GT (referring to Georgia Tech)!?!? I'm not one to heckle much but that's flat out ignorance. ....and simply there's no excuse for that. Some people just can't help themselves I don't suppose. Heck saying that Texas State is better than Navy, Temple and Pitt is a mouthful in itself......but Georgia Tech!?! Let's not be ridiculous

 

[no1e]

Whoever Argus is, wherever Argus is, he must be very proud to see Mo1e wet his pants every time someone points to another one of Mo1e's never ending lies. There is no question that Argus has destroyed Mo1e's brain cells by getting under his skin so bad he has Mo1e waking up sick every morning knowing he can't defend what he has lied about.

It is good to see.

What part of "no one" has ever pointed to a lie I have told don't you get? You just made that up thinking someone would agree. You and your dishonest 22+ usernames don't count by the way. You can't make that claim and you have yet to cite ANY lie I have ever uttered after hundreds of challenges to do so. There's a reason why you haven't. There are none and never will be.

But keep lying and making stuff up. You're pathological.

 

[no1e]

Woahhh......Did I just read that right coming from the big Cheese? Please tell me that you did not just say that TS (Texas State) is better than the likes of GT (referring to Georgia Tech)!?!? I'm not one to heckle much but that's flat out ignorance. ....and simply there's no excuse for that. Some people just can't help themselves I don't suppose. Heck saying that Texas State is better than Navy, Temple and Pitt is a mouthful in itself......but Georgia Tech!?! Let's not be ridiculous

I think that's an oversight. He may be close about the other teams THIS year but GaTech is legit and a top 15 team. They scare me more than a more talented Clemson does at home. And Clemson worries me.

 

[no1e]

^^^^^. See what I mean!

This is the same guy that said Bowden and FSU never cheating and Kelly should have been charged with murder.

One real sick bastard!

Congrats.... two lies in one sentence.

Bowden never cheated by the way.

 

[BigFellaFan]

Bowden is a bum, always was and always will be.

He defended a rapist who stole Christmas presents, raped women and Boden defended him.

But Bowden is held in high regard by Mo1e and other morons who believe in fairies and losers who cheat like Bowden!

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._1_bobby-bowden-sexual-assault-michael-gibson

 

[HillRock86]

A coach instructs and it's up to the player to receive the message. Apparently Malik Zaire embraces coaching because I saw none of those 8 problems against a REAL opponent from a Power 5 Conference.

Brian Kelly is 1,000,000% more accomplished as a Coach, then the guy from Tallahassee is as a player. So if Brian Kelly's message wasn't getting through; it was because Tallahassee didn't want to hear it or was just too dumb to comprehend it. Either way that's why he's Jimbo Fishers left over dinner.

We've seen the guy from Tallassee show out against B Rate competition. (Texas St) *yawn* Talk to me when Brent Venables of Clemson is throwing the kitchen sink at him and his eyes look dish saucers, his lower lip puffs out pouting and the ball is rolling all over the field.

Hey Florida, Venables is going to throw that same kitchen sink at Zaire. How do you know he'll fare any better than Golson will fare? Also, what's your beef with Stanford and Coach Shaw? There's a long way to go between now and November. Stanford will probably be a much better team than it showed against Northwestern. I hope ND is still in playoff contention by then. I also hope you'll show your face around here if Stanford beats Notre Dame that day.

 

[deadirishpoet]

You may have noticed I don't even mention the players name. He is nothing, I was comparing and contrasting and illustrating why Malik Zaire is superior to last year's QB in every way a QB can be superior. Last year's QB left because he was not good enough to start for ND this year. Period.

He is nothing"?

Wow!

I do not know what sounds more ridiculous.

Stating Golson is nothing (I seem to remember you saying different when he was Irish), or stating coach Shaw is "a nothing"... A Rose Bowl winning coach. I also believe his first three season are better than coach Kelly's

I like some of the things you post, but when you make comments as that????
Well it's hard to imagine a High School coach calling out either one, and wanting to be taken serious.

 

[sharkfan83]

I think that's an oversight. He may be close about the other teams THIS year but GaTech is legit and a top 15 team. They scare me more than a more talented Clemson does at home. And Clemson worries me.

I can relate!! They are scarey good on offense. But I feel sure ND, Clemson, and FSU can score on them. But can anyone stop that option offense...thats the bad part. And they can control the clock like a machine with that running game. Just hope for a turnover or two and capitalize and hold on for dear life. Or in other words....don't come out sputtering and get down to them by 14 pts on them and have to play catch up or else you can bend over between your legs and kiss your own arse goodbye.

 

[no1e]

Bowden is a bum, always was and always will be.

He defended a rapist who stole Christmas presents, raped women and Boden defended him.

But Bowden is held in high regard by Mo1e and other morons who believe in fairies and losers who cheat like Bowden!

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._1_bobby-bowden-sexual-assault-michael-gibson

As usual you took Bowden's comments out of context. In no way did Bowden defend Gibson's behavior or Gibson himself. He was asked to make a statement about how he remembered Gibson when Bobby was recruiting and coaching him. Years before the assault. Bobby being a man of immense integrity (a word you don't understand) and as honest as any on earth told it like it was. Naturally the truth confuses you but Bobby never defended Gibson or his behavior. Try reading your link and note Bobby's comments. You are showing your ass again hypocrite.

 

[floridairish]

Players win games not coaches. Coaches can lose games but never win them, If you coached a day in your life, you might understand that, but since your knowledge of football is so limited you do not. The QB in Tallahassee is no one I care to discuss, I was comparing and contrasting Malik Zaire to the other guy who started at ND last year.

David Shaw is not worth discussing to me and I think the Stanford Offense is nothing but "Recruit Repellent". Andrew Luck's greatness is the reason that program hit a purple patch for a few years. As far as Brian Kelly having a losing record versus Stanford, so what? He was rebuilding the program. Charlie Weis was 4-1 Stanford and 2-1 versus Harbaugh. You want him back? I didn't think so.

How do I know Malik Zaire will fare better verses Venables?. Because I have never seen Malik Zaire meltdown to the point he had to be pulled out of football a game. Smaller sample size maybe but he faced top level athletes in his 3 games. USC, LSU and Texas. He is calm, the ball comes out on time, he is decisive and he takes coaching without appearing to have a nervous breakdown on the sideline,

 

[continually35forever]

Players win games not coaches. Coaches can lose games but never win them, If you coached a day in your life, you might understand that, but since your knowledge of football is so limited you do not. David Shaw is no one I care to discuss, The QB in Tallahassee is no one I care to discuss, I discuss the Stanford Offensive System and why it inhibits their ability to recruit skill players and I was comparing and contrasting Malik Zaire to the other guy who started at ND last year. I've got nothing against David Shaw I just do not feel he is worth discussing

How do I know Malik Zaire will fare better verses Venables?. Because I have never seen Malik Zaire meltdown to the point he had to be pulled out of football a game. Smaller sample size maybe but he faced top level athletes in his 3 games. USC, LSU and Texas. He is calm, the ball comes out on time, he is decisive and he takes coaching without appearing to have a nervous breakdown on the sideline, That's why I believe he will not meltdown like the other guy did versus Michigan in 12, Pittsburgh in 12, made poor choices off the field in 2013, and booted the football all over the field versus Syracuse, UNC, Arizona State, Northwestern, Louisville and USC in 2014. When Malik Zaire gives me the impression that he is as nervous as a house cat let loose on the Interstate Highway, I'll be the first one to admit it.

Fl Irish - understand the mind sets and lack of true football knowledge that occupy these boards in many cases . Example - coming on this board after the clinic ND ran on Texas and taking a pot shot at Kelly for a miscommunication between Zaire and Adams on a hand off

BTW I watched OH ST last nite I think ND is better -- I also watched the first three series of the game vs Texas , Folston will be missed . Irreplaceable ? Josh Adams and Dexter Williams will answer that question

 

[Duo]

Referring to Golson as "that QB in Tallahassee" is friggin hilarious!!! Bwahahahahahah

But..........."Can your daddy whip my daddy?"

Any clue just how silly that sounds???

 

[deadirishpoet]

Fl Irish - understand the mind sets and lack of true football knowledge that occupy these boards in many cases . Example - coming on this board after the clinic ND ran on Texas and taking a pot shot at Kelly for a miscommunication between Zaire and Adams on a hand off

BTW I watched OH ST last nite I think ND is better -- I also watched the first three series of the game vs Texas , Folston will be missed . Irreplaceable ? Josh Adams and Dexter Williams will answer that question

"Lack of true football knowledge"?

Your are no one to talk. Pot meet kettle

 

[continually35forever]

"Lack of true football knowledge"?

Your are no one to talk. Pot meet kettle

Congrats you took my bait -- bravo
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