Know means NO for Malik

[floridairish]

After watching the QB in Tallahassee literally never know what was going on with his protections, play clock or ball security. it was a pleasure to see a QB who KNOWS what's going on. As a result NO wasted timeouts or delay of games. NO fumbles, NO interceptions, NO nervous twitching in the pocket and NO busted protections.

His movements were calm and decisive. The ball came out on time and accurately and best of all I did not have to see the ball rolling all over the ground. Ladies and Gentlemen ND has got itself a bona fide QB.. And it's going to be a long year for the Brian Kelly haters!!!!

And for the football novices who think Coach Kelly "changed" or "adapted or "finally figured out" the offense" think again because you are clueless. This has always been the offense but he's finally got the right conductor on the field. All aboard!!!! Except the haters you can walk.

 

[DefianceND]

Kelly finally has the smart QB with the ability to utilize his mobility. Want to see what he does in a close game. Does he have "it"? We will see

 

[BGI User 348]

Yep....NO turnovers WINS games!!! MALIK!!!!!

 

[irishfan26]

Two starts against Power 5 schools, with zero turnovers is a positive sign. With Rosen (True Frosh) shredding UVA's talented secondary, Malik should have another good game, but I don't expect to see 87% on completions.

He did the small things extraordinarily well and made some big plays. Fantastic start for him.

 

[BGI User 1596]

The FSU QB didn't do too bad either - no turnovers, no fumbles, so on and so forth - pin point passes into tight windows. Both ND and FSU played really bad teams - neither team was tested.

 

[irishfan26]

Golson played really well. It seemed like Fisher established the running game first, then let Golson throw the ball, off play action plays. I hope he has a successful year. Both teams seemed to have benefited from the move and landed the best qbs to fit their systems.

 

[mokpra37]

Florida is right. After one game, Malik looks like the much better quarterback of the two.

 

[NDCap]

Malik has a great cast of veteran Wr's . Fuller is an AA. Robinson, Brown, and now hunter are as good a group as anyone in the country. Not fair the Golson for these reasons:
1- The OL is much better
2- The OL is much much better
3- The OLINe is much much much better

I will say this MZ looks solid in the pocket but he at times came close to delay of game penalties, ( the TD pass) It's early but the team loves this guy not something I think can be said for EG. He seemed to have lost his coaches confidence and that has an effect on the team. It's MZ time now and he has the pieces around him to be great and executed almost to perfection but EG did some great things for ND too.

 

[HDK]

I'm not going to blame Golson for being a little confused in his first start at FSU. It's too be expected. I'm sure last year, you were among those touting him as a Heisman candidate.

But we football "novices" are not as dumb as you would paint us. To say in Brian Kelly's sixth season that he finally has a bonafide quarterback ignores his role in what has been at times a total mess at the QB position. It was Kelly who had Zaire ready to leave last season and who stood idly by as Golson imploded when he may have just needed two or three series on the bench way before USC to get his head back in the game.

 

[floridairish]

He looked better the second he took over against USC, he's just a smarter, more fluid and decisive player than the other guy.

It's impossible to quantify but when turn on the tape it's sticks out like a sore thumb. The other guy put some numbers up against Texas St.. We have seen that act before. Malik has played 2.5 games vs USC, LSU and UT. And ND has gone up and down the field versus John Chavis and Vance Bedford. 2 exceptional coordinators.

Tenuta is also an exceptional coordinator barring the ND debacle. Next week will be a nice challenge. Bottoming is Malik has got IT and the guy in Tallahassee doesn't have IT.

Wins

 

[Pennick4]

Malik appears to have "it". The players rally around him and he is in control. I was a Huge Golson fan but am happy the way things worked out. One of our regular posters wanted Malik to play defensive back. Brilliant!!

 

[floridairish]

It's not the 1980's kids you can't hide a QB. I know many of you who have erections for Stanford Ball....think you can...but you cant it's 2015 baby!!!! That's why Stanford is beginning to circle the drain post Luck. That's why Meyer went 7-5 at UF post Tebow and ran out of town to Braxton Miller.

Charlie Strong with Teddy Bridgewater was a rising star. 14 games in at Texas he looks like a failure. I know you geniuses think a coach can go to his trunk and pull out any QB and just "develop him" as if you actually knew what that entailed. But you cannot. That's why Oregon went to Eastern Washington to poach their 2015 QB. That's why FSU is having to use ND's left overs at QB.

I guess Fisher and Helfrich are failures by the ND lords of Internet Football Standards.

 

[Duo]

MZ looked excellent: 19/22, 313 yds., 14.2 av., TD 3, INT. 0

Everett looked excellent: 19/25, 302 yds., 12.1 av., TD 4, INT.0

Dalvin Cook looked excellent: 19 car., 156 yds., 8.2 av., TD 2

Will any of these 3 end up being invited to the Heisman ceremony?

 

[IrishBlooded]

MZ looked excellent: 19/22, 313 yds., 14.2 av., TD 3, INT. 0

Everett looked excellent: 19/25, 302 yds., 12.1 av., TD 4, INT.0

Dalvin Cook looked excellent: 19 car., 156 yds., 8.2 av., TD 2

Will any of these 3 end up being invited to the Heisman ceremony?

WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT FLORIDA STATE IN THIS THREAD........... STOP TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA STATE HERE............... SERIOUSLY

 

[artemis gordon]

Aren't Sunday mornings great after a win?

 

[deadirishpoet]

After watching the QB in Tallahassee literally never know what was going on with his protections, play clock or ball security. it was a pleasure to see a QB who KNOWS what's going on. As a result NO wasted timeouts or delay of games. NO fumbles, NO interceptions, NO nervous twitching in the pocket and NO busted protections.

His movements were calm and decisive. The ball came out on time and accurately and best of all I did not have to see the ball rolling all over the ground. Ladies and Gentlemen ND has got itself a bona fide QB.. And it's going to be a long year for the Brian Kelly haters!!!!

And for the football novices who think Coach Kelly "changed" or "adapted or "finally figured out" the offense" think again because you are clueless. This has always been the offense but he's finally got the right conductor on the field. All aboard!!!! Except the haters you can walk.

So in his 6th season he "finally" got the right conductor on the field?

Sure florida keep telling yourself that. What we are seeing on the field now is NOT what were seeing prior to LSU game last season. I know your would like to bend the narrative to fit your point, but us who have seen the team prior to the LSU formula have seen the subtle changes.

I see you didn't mention coach Shaw in the same manor as coach Meyer and coach Strong. Are you a Shaw hater? You do realize how hard it is to recruit there YET coach Shaw has done more than coach Strong has done while at L'ville (and I'm not going to mention how it's going at UT)

You do realize that Stanford has a winning record against ND in the Kelly era so blasting Stanford just because you do not like the type of offense they run is ignorant (not you just the statements toward Stanford)

I hope you also realize that if coach Diaco didn't put a stout defense on the field in 2012, along with some break coach Kelly might not even be here now

You may perceive anyone who throws criticism toward coach Kelly as a hater, but it only shows how blind you are to the circumstances. Again I know you will try to bend the narrative, and what was that you've said in a prior post... you'll .... "attack me" (there's a grown up) go ahead I have been shot at by better than you.

Bring it on!

I do see an excellent season ahead and am very excited about this season and you can't steal that from me with all your blah, blah, blah and mister know it all attitude,

Go Irish

 

[Duo]

WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT FLORIDA STATE IN THIS THREAD........... STOP TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA STATE HERE............... SERIOUSLY

Go back and read..........the OP started the thread talking about FSU, "After watching the QB in Tallahassee". And then many of the posters above responded with comments about Golson, FSU and made comparisons. Perhaps you should have skipped this thread after reading the first sentence........seriously! ("seriously".........ha ha ha.........puhaleeeze). Larger shorts might help.

 

[no1e]

WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT FLORIDA STATE IN THIS THREAD........... STOP TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA STATE HERE............... SERIOUSLY

Tell that to the ND fans in the thread. They are the ones who brought Golson up. Not FSU fans.

 

[TurnoverMachine]

Tell that to the ND fans in the thread. They are the ones who brought Golson up. Not FSU fans.

Troll

 

[BigFellaFan]

FSU played Texas State. The only thing worthwhile discussing anything about them is that ND's second team QB shines for them playing a second rate team. It looks as if Jumbo's promise to EG giving,him the QB position last summer, will work out for both.

It is funny to see FSU fans slobber over an ND man!

 

[pumpbeef]

Texas is awful.....hard to tell how good ND is.....Please stop with the cheap shot on the michigan player....

 

[Toby Smart]

Texas St is not Texas, even under the worse conditions for the Longhorns. The old team from Austin is not good. Maybe not even a six win team. Not very quick. No QB. From what I read, can't recruit the Texas HS elite anymore because the lads want to go elsewhere. The Irish OL jumped the count three times yesterday, two by a future NFLer. The radio guys eluded to the cadence being different with MZ than it was with EG. I call B.S. on that lamo excuse. The Irish "O" did leave points on the field with good field position and stalled drives, missed FG, and OL penalties as drive killers. That should change going into week two. Be warned that G Tech and Clemson and USC has speed that the Irish will not have seen before. Be warned, again, of the cut blocks all over the place coming in two weeks. There is a lot of work to be done.

 

[IrishBlooded]

Tell that to the ND fans in the thread. They are the ones who brought Golson up. Not FSU fans.

So what you are saying is that all of us should go to war chant and post in every thread that has anything to do with Golson?

I mean he was a ND player at one time right?

Good God you are dense.

 

[continually35forever]

So in his 6th season he "finally" got the right conductor on the field?

Sure florida keep telling yourself that. What we are seeing on the field now is NOT what were seeing prior to LSU game last season. I know your would like to bend the narrative to fit your point, but us who have seen the team prior to the LSU formula have seen the subtle changes.

I see you didn't mention coach Shaw in the same manor as coach Meyer and coach Strong. Are you a Shaw hater? You do realize how hard it is to recruit there YET coach Shaw has done more than coach Strong has done while at L'ville (and I'm not going to mention how it's going at UT)

You do realize that Stanford has a winning record against ND in the Kelly era so blasting Stanford just because you do not like the type of offense they run is ignorant (not you just the statements toward Stanford)

I hope you also realize that if coach Diaco didn't put a stout defense on the field in 2012, along with some break coach Kelly might not even be here now

You may perceive anyone who throws criticism toward coach Kelly as a hater, but it only shows how blind you are to the circumstances. Again I know you will try to bend the narrative, and what was that you've said in a prior post... you'll .... "attack me" (there's a grown up) go ahead I have been shot at by better than you.

Bring it on!

I do see an excellent season ahead and am very excited about this season and you can't steal that from me with all your blah, blah, blah and mister know it all attitude,

Did you say something about being a grown up ? Fl Irish is one of the best regular posters on this board

 

[Duo]

It's a Rivals platform for all fans of CFB, even for ND fans who start a thread about FSU and their former QB. Take solace in knowing that one of your fellow graduates is making a run at the Heisman Trophy and wish him well! Peace on earth and good will toward mankind.

 

[continually35forever]

Kelly crafted the perfect game plan - Grade A . Our QB had a 250.6 QB rating - near perfection .

 

[continually35forever]

Kelly crafted the perfect game plan - Grade A . Our QB had a 250.6 QB rating - near perfection .

Also hats off to Kelly for taking the foot off the pedal in the fourth qtr . I think it's despicable when coaches run it up on fellow coaches - Kudos BK

 

[floridairish]

The offense looked different before the LSU game because the stating QB was a basket case. You know nothing about offensive systems and game preparation. ND is running the same blocking schemes, same pass protections, same screens and same passing concepts as last year.

I'd explain it but you wouldn't understand it DIP. You're over your head and apparently a Stanford fan. So how does one go about putting 2 Field Goals on the board against an undersized NW defense? I thought for sure that BIG BAD 2 back 1980 POWER Run Game could generate at least 1 TD? David Shaw is a nothing who has ran out of Harbaugh recruits. I didn't mention him because he's not worth mentioning.

 

[deadirishpoet]

The offense looked different before the LSU game because the stating QB was a basket case. You know nothing about offensive systems and game preparation. ND is running the same blocking schemes, same pass protections, same screens and same passing concepts as last year.

I'd explain it but you wouldn't understand it DIP. You're over your head and apparently a Stanford fan. So how does one go about putting 2 Field Goals on the board against an undersized NW defense? I thought for sure that BIG BAD 2 back 1980 POWER Run Game could generate at least 1 TD? David Shaw is a nothing who has ran out of Harbaugh recruits. I didn't mention him because he's not worth mentioning.

So for FIVE seasons the QB's were a basket case?

Like I said you will twist the narrative to soot your point

You talk big, but make no sense. The QB position was a wreck for five season with FOUR different QBs before MZ then came the LSU game and it looked nothing like the previous games so sell crazy somewhere else.

In regards to Stanford (whom has a winning record against the Irish in the Kelly era) losing to NW ........hum think 2014 ND v NW? How exactly did that turn out?

BTW I am a fan of Stanford along with North Western, Vandy, Duke, the Military Academies and whoever else is an acedmice first university

I can't wait for your GT offense sucks rant.

 

[deadirishpoet]

.......... David Shaw is a nothing who has ran out of Harbaugh recruits. I didn't mention him because he's not worth mentioning.[/QUOTE]

So you didn't mention Coach Shaw because he's a nothing???????????

I'm sorry how many major Bowls have YOU coached in?

How many Rose Bowls have YOU won?

His first three season records are every bit as good as coach Kelly's except coach Shaw has won a BCS Bowl

The system Harbaugh ran is the same coach Shaw is running unless you are going to twist that into coach Harbaugh running a Stanford type of spread lol

Like I've said you twist the narrative to try to make a point yet it's you who is sounding silly

I'm tired of trying to explain it to you. You can not see the forest through the trees.

 

[PHJIndy]

WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT FLORIDA STATE IN THIS THREAD........... STOP TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA STATE HERE............... SERIOUSLY

A(FREAKING)MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[notredamerises23]

So in his 6th season he "finally" got the right conductor on the field?

Sure florida keep telling yourself that. What we are seeing on the field now is NOT what were seeing prior to LSU game last season. I know your would like to bend the narrative to fit your point, but us who have seen the team prior to the LSU formula have seen the subtle changes.

I see you didn't mention coach Shaw in the same manor as coach Meyer and coach Strong. Are you a Shaw hater? You do realize how hard it is to recruit there YET coach Shaw has done more than coach Strong has done while at L'ville (and I'm not going to mention how it's going at UT)

You do realize that Stanford has a winning record against ND in the Kelly era so blasting Stanford just because you do not like the type of offense they run is ignorant (not you just the statements toward Stanford)

I hope you also realize that if coach Diaco didn't put a stout defense on the field in 2012, along with some break coach Kelly might not even be here now

You may perceive anyone who throws criticism toward coach Kelly as a hater, but it only shows how blind you are to the circumstances. Again I know you will try to bend the narrative, and what was that you've said in a prior post... you'll .... "attack me" (there's a grown up) go ahead I have been shot at by better than you.

Bring it on!

I do see an excellent season ahead and am very excited about this season and you can't steal that from me with all your blah, blah, blah and mister know it all attitude,

Go Irish

Name those subtle changes. What are they exactly? And don't say it's a team that used to running a system.

Also, while you accuse Florida of "bending the narrative," you have been doing so since the beginning of Kelly's tenure. You were wrong about Weis and you are wrong about Kelly.

 

[notredamerises23]

So for FIVE seasons the QB's were a basket case?

Like I said you will twist the narrative to sootyour point

You talk big, but make no sense. The QB position was a wreck for five season with FOUR different QBs before MZ then came

"Soot"?

You just made the point for Florida--the QB position was a mess because we didn't have a very good one; it is very difficult to find a good QB at any level of football. If we found someone we liked, why would we keep changing things around? We wouldn't.Texas and Florida have been looking for one for 6-7 years and they get to recruit whomever they want (or used to at least) and still can't find a good one. The fact is that Kelly was able to put together good seasons against difficult schedules even with substandard signal callers at the helm.

 

[continually35forever]

ND 23 - Are you telling me this guy liked Weis and is down on Kelly ? F----ing amazing how little some people know about something they have watched there whole lives ( football )

Brian Kelly has been coach of the yr twice and was well on his way to a third last yr and will be a front runner for the same award this season . C Weis was a figment of someone @ ND's limited imagination .
If someone thinks Brain Kelly is not a high level football coach they are to a man FOOTBALL MORONS !!

 

[notredamerises23]

ND 23 - Are you telling me this guy liked Weis and is down on Kelly ? F----ing amazing how little some people know about something they have watched there whole lives ( football )

Brian Kelly has been coach of the yr twice and was well on his way to a third last yr and will be a front runner for the same award this season . C Weis was a figment of someone @ ND's limited imagination .
If someone thinks Brain Kelly is not a high level football coach they are to a man FOOTBALL MORONS !!

Yeah, he was upset at Weis being let go and then wanted someone to come in and run the option or at least some power football scheme. Ok, fine, even though that's going out the way of the dinosaur. But when Kelly was hired, he's been critical about everything even though Kelly led this team to the title game despite going up against schools the play by different academic rules and different receuitig rules.

 

[no1e]

So what you are saying is that all of us should go to war chant and post in every thread that has anything to do with Golson?

I mean he was a ND player at one time right?

Good God you are dense.

Seriously? You are jumping on an FSU fan for participating respectfully in a thread where ND fans brought up FSU critically and I'm the dense one? You are attempting to put words in my mouth that don't remotely align with my thoughts and I'm the dense one? Good to know.

Note: For the record I didn't bring up FSU or Golson in this thread or any other. I never have.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Name those subtle changes. What are they exactly? And don't say it's a team that used to running a system.

Also, while you accuse Florida of "bending the narrative," you have been doing so since the beginning of Kelly's tenure. You were wrong about Weis and you are wrong about Kelly.

What narrative did I bend about coach Kelly?

I gave him credit on several things he has done

Hiring of assistant coaches being one of best attributes As far as being critical QB development and initial offensive philosophies w/o a defense that can handle the pace being the major.

The ONLY time I was wrong about Weis was when I thought midway through the 09' season it would end better

I will man up and state I was very wrong about coach Diaco. The 2012 defense is the only reason coach Kelly is still HC at ND. If it wasn't for that defense and some breaks HD would of been the same 9-3/8-4 team we've come to see through 3 qters of coach Kellies career at ND

Let me ask you ?

Wasn't coach Kelly consider an offensive mind? A developer of QB's?

In 5 season's has that come to pass? Hell the offense was more know for the ridicules amount of turnovers more than anything else. Isn't five season enough to correct that?

For me unlike some I could care less what offense is being run. as long as there is progress. I loved the running game because I've seen the results at ND. At this point the spread has failed miserably. For some reason it seems to be hard to recruit top defensive front personnel at ND. Therefore you need to critique with whom you can get thus you need some sort of ball controlled offense in order to not beat the crap out of the defense's time on the field.

You could see in the LSU game the ball was being controlled by the offense because of the lack of experience MZ had going into it. The Irish were running the offense in a manor to control the clock. Low and behold look what came of it.

Surely coach Kelly didn't expect MZ to be the man, or he would started him way before the LSU game.

So please tell me how I am bending any narrative. I didn't even bring up the utter lack of special teams in the first five season, or the head scratch calls suck as going for TD's when short FG's would of won the game.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Yeah, he was upset at Weis being let go and then wanted someone to come in and run the option or at least some power football scheme. Ok, fine, even though that's going out the way of the dinosaur. But when Kelly was hired, he's been critical about everything even though Kelly led this team to the title game despite going up against schools the play by different academic rules and different receuitig rules.

Huh that was coach Diaco defense not coach Kelly's offense which lead ND to the title game. Coach Kelly's offense has however lead ND to some minor bowls (prior to this season)

I'll give you that.

 

[deadirishpoet]

"Soot"?

You just made the point for Florida--the QB position was a mess because we didn't have a very good one; it is very difficult to find a good QB at any level of football. If we found someone we liked, why would we keep changing things around? We wouldn't.Texas and Florida have been looking for one for 6-7 years and they get to recruit whomever they want (or used to at least) and still can't find a good one. The fact is that Kelly was able to put together good seasons against difficult schedules even with substandard signal callers at the helm.

WOW

The Irish were have trouble to get quality QB's to come to ND.

And coach Saban makes it to the playoffs with an average QB. Coach Meyer wins the NC with 2QB's with how much starting time?

Golson was coach Kelly's QB. Did some excellent things in HS, but like with Crist, Rees, Hendrix he could develop them into the type of QB that could run his offense.

Look at Gary Patterson. Last season he scrapped his offense from the season before to fit the personnel he had. Look what that did for him. Coach Holtz did the same

This is something coach Kelly never did prior to the LSU game last season.

If coach Kelly could get the right guy in until now that says more about him then it does recruits

 

[Bodizephax]

After watching the QB in Tallahassee literally never know what was going on with his protections, play clock or ball security. it was a pleasure to see a QB who KNOWS what's going on. As a result NO wasted timeouts or delay of games. NO fumbles, NO interceptions, NO nervous twitching in the pocket and NO busted protections.

His movements were calm and decisive. The ball came out on time and accurately and best of all I did not have to see the ball rolling all over the ground. Ladies and Gentlemen ND has got itself a bona fide QB.. And it's going to be a long year for the Brian Kelly haters!!!!

And for the football novices who think Coach Kelly "changed" or "adapted or "finally figured out" the offense" think again because you are clueless. This has always been the offense but he's finally got the right conductor on the field. All aboard!!!! Except the haters you can walk.

Great post Florida Irish !!! I would like to add one thing, though.
Did you notice how Malik would run out of bounds when he was running for yardage so he wouldn't take a hit?
He is listening to the coaches---It is a long year and he needs to stay healthy and also that prevents fumbles (Golson used to fumble all the time instead of going down or running out of bounds).
Go Irish !!
Beat Virginia !! 48 to 14 !