ADVERTISEMENT

Kelly is a mid level coach at best

Zorich 88

I've posted how many times?
Dec 7, 2006
6,583
2,085
113
The guy has lost every big game he has coached at ND. He is simply out coached in every big game. He will never compete with a Bama or OSU. Yet, he is one of the top paid coaches in the country.
 
  • Like
Reactions: end_23
The guy has lost every big game he has coached at ND. He is simply out coached in every big game. He will never compete with a Bama or OSU. Yet, he is one of the top paid coaches in the country.

We get that you don't like Kelly, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But must you post a thread every day reminding the board of your opinion of Kelly?
 
The guy has lost every big game he has coached at ND. He is simply out coached in every big game. He will never compete with a Bama or OSU. Yet, he is one of the top paid coaches in the country.
What are you hoping to accomplish with these threads? Is this the third similar one in the last four days? Are you trying to convince the rest of the people? Convince yourself?
 
Huh? That is just flat out wrong. According to this, he is the 68th highest paid coach in college.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

No, his total pay package is much higher, his over all salary may be low, but when you factor in all of the income streams that are attached to the job the compensation level changes dramatically (notice that the additional compensation space is blank next to his). There was an old understanding, perhaps it is even written practice, that no athletic coach or Football coach can receive a salary more than the highest paid professor. Maybe that is myth, but it seems to have held true through the years. It started with Hesburgh. Maybe I have it wrong, but that's the story. Kelly is very well compensated. He doesn't deserve it, but that's another argument.
 
  • Like
Reactions: end_23
No, his total pay package is much higher, his over all salary may be low, but when you factor in all of the income streams that is attached to the job the compensation level changes dramatically. There was an old understanding, perhaps it is even written practice, that no athletic coach or Football coach can receive a salary more than the highest paid professor. Maybe that is myth, but it seems to have held true through the years. It started with Hesburgh. Maybe I have it wrong, but that's the story. Kelly is very well compensated. He doesn't deserve it, but that's another argument.
Even if the salary is tripled given the alleged 'income streams' that would still barely qualify him as a top 25 paid coach.
 
Even if the salary is tripled given the alleged 'income streams' that would still barely qualify him as a top 25 paid coach.

Wrong, there are many income streams that you are not aware of that come with the position. This is a private institution, we do not need or are we obligated to make public the compensation programs of employed University personal.
 
Even if the salary is tripled given the alleged 'income streams' that would still barely qualify him as a top 25 paid coach.
The general consensus is that he makes between $4 million and $5 million per year, which has him well into the top 25. But since we don't have to disclose any of that info, nobody is ever totally 100% sure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: zonairish
Wrong, there are many income streams that you are not aware of that come with the position. This is a private institution, we do not need or are we obligated to make public the compensation programs of employed University personal.

Link?
 
No, his total pay package is much higher, his over all salary may be low, but when you factor in all of the income streams that are attached to the job the compensation level changes dramatically (notice that the additional compensation space is blank next to his). There was an old understanding, perhaps it is even written practice, that no athletic coach or Football coach can receive a salary more than the highest paid professor. Maybe that is myth, but it seems to have held true through the years. It started with Hesburgh. Maybe I have it wrong, but that's the story. Kelly is very well compensated. He doesn't deserve it, but that's another argument.
It is not a myth. Here is a photo of Notre Dames highest paid professor. cgvr was one of his students (real name Horshack)
kotter_iq_kotter_finger.jpg
 
I will continue to start these kinds of threads as long as Kelly is the coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: end_23
To what purpose?

As ND fans we should want the best for the football program we cheer for. ND used to be the current Bama and OSU teams. Yes, that was a long time ago. However, as a fan, I believe ND can get back to that place of dominance. We just need the right guy in charge. ND would never have the history it now enjoys if the fans and the university settled on mediocre coaches. There is absolutely no way after seven years, that Kelly should be given an eighth or ninth or even a tenth year.
 
As ND fans we should want the best for the football program we cheer for. ND used to be the current Bama and OSU teams. Yes, that was a long time ago. However, as a fan, I believe ND can get back to that place of dominance. We just need the right guy in charge. ND would never have the history it now enjoys if the fans and the university settled on mediocre coaches. There is absolutely no way after seven years, that Kelly should be given an eighth or ninth or even a tenth year.
But do you really feel the need to tell us day after day?

I've lost faith myself, but when is it enough?
 
Z

true; focus on NCST.

For me, I put my opinions out there, but I really want to go it alone. I would rather others came to my conclusion of their own volition. I am amazed at times at the blind faith or lack of deductive reasoning by some; but in the end whatever will be will be. So far on major opins, I don't feel any needed mea culpa.
 
Z

true; focus on NCST.

For me, I put my opinions out there, but I really want to go it alone. I would rather others came to my conclusion of their own volition. I am amazed at times at the blind faith or lack of deductive reasoning by some; but in the end whatever will be will be. So far on major opins, I don't feel any needed mea culpa.

I will let the team focus on the game. I will continue to focus on the issue.
 
Z

true; focus on NCST.

For me, I put my opinions out there, but I really want to go it alone. I would rather others came to my conclusion of their own volition. I am amazed at times at the blind faith or lack of deductive reasoning by some; but in the end whatever will be will be. So far on major opins, I don't feel any needed mea culpa.

Quoting Doris Day? Now I am sure you are a fruitcake.
 
Last edited:
You are looking at last years list. Kelly got a HUGE raise. He makes 4mil. a year, which puts him in the top 10.
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm

Uh, I just read the link you provided. It is a bit outdated, don't you think? Spurrier retired from South Carolina during the middle of last season. And Sarkisian was fired by USC. Richt and Pinkel have also moved on. Good stuff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bodizephax
Z:

it is gonna be a long struggle for you. If Kelly gets to 6 wins, he will surely return in '17.
If '17 is not a 10+ season then I think there may be serious thought that it is time for changes.
You're gonna blow a gasket if you maintain this pace. In the end, JMO, you're going to prove correct but patience is your best course.
 
Uh, I just read the link you provided. It is a bit outdated, don't you think? Spurrier retired from South Carolina during the middle of last season. And Sarkisian was fired by USC. Richt and Pinkel have also moved on. Good stuff.

Kelly gets 4mil per year which makes him a top 10 paid coach.
 
No, I would rather point out what a fool you are and continue to be.

Awesome! Welcome to my following 78. Although, I have yet to see you start any thread worth anything. You are nothing but a arm chair qb that sits on the sidelines and hurls insults. I love every second of it. Keep it coming 78. You need to find some meaning in life.
 
I will continue to start these kinds of threads as long as Kelly is the coach.

OK, fair enough and thanks for the warning - completely your right. Up to us to put you on ignore at this point.
 
Awesome! Welcome to my following 78. Although, I have yet to see you start any thread worth anything. You are nothing but a arm chair qb that sits on the sidelines and hurls insults. I love every second of it. Keep it coming 78. You need to find some meaning in life.


Wait a minute. You are the one with the announced purpose of posting drivel every day until Kelly is fired. Whose life has meaning?
 
Wait a minute. You are the one with the announced purpose of posting drivel every day until Kelly is fired. Whose life has meaning?


this thread is about as much fun as watching the housewives shows
 
a question for Z88

are you the Zorich that used to post all the predictions of grand victories? Or was that a different Zorich?
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT