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Respect for Marcus Freeman

I was here in 2016 when 80% of the fan base wanted Brian Kelly fired after going 4-8. Pete Bevacqua doesn’t give a shit what a handful of random fans feel about Marcus Freeman.
That wasn't my point. My point was that as soon as ND experiences its next setback, people will be calling for Freeman's head. Not that the university is going to rush out and can him.
 
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So you resent being put on the spot like this, it sounds like. I am in absolute good faith. I do not give a shit about your opinions and sentiments towards MF, no offense at all. To each his own. That's just what I distinctly remember. You got all kinds of fussy opinions about the coaches. BK, MF, Denbrock.... and it's great, it's just a fan being a fan. It's more than your right, it's what being a fan's all about. But that's definitely what I remember. But I guess I'm just wrong, you never expressed any significant misgivings or reservations, you were wholeheartedly convinced this guy was the real deal the whole season, unabashed, unreservedly. And in light of this exciting playoff run we're on, and everyone's all fired up and exhilarated, this is no different than how you've felt all year. Okay then! If you say so....

And I think I'm alone on many, many things on this message board. That's definitely for sure.

My whole conduct on this topic has been about my misgivings and reservations and how I was wrong. I said I capitulated and lost faith after the loss to NIU, that he was learning on the job...saying not to fire him, but that it would take 3-5 years to not be in over his head.

Pretty literal stuff, not sure how you misinterpret this.

:)
 
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That wasn't my point. My point was that as soon as ND experiences its next setback, people will be calling for Freeman's head. Not that the university is going to rush out and can him.


FWIW, I also defended BK from firing. Especially because he restored ND to competitiveness, something every coach since Holtz couldn't do. So many programs fire coaches and then hire busts.

Even when a transition is smooth, the next coach often has trouble. DeBoer at AL and Moore at MI come to mind. Because of that along, MF merits 5 years minimum, no matter what happens these playoffs...but he's also earned it and then some.
 
Over his head? Jack actually made an astute decision
This year's defense does not change the reality of the situation in 2021.

With Al Golden and Mike Denbrock...

Golden YES, not a fan of Denbrock. His playcalling against GA was baffling. Never attacked the perimeter like he should have, every outside run had 5-7 yards but he continued to run the F ing ball up middle. Did he even watch the GA Tech-GA game?
Yes this. We have one half of a good team. I did not see a single deep completion in the Sugar Bowl from us.
 
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Yes this. We have one half of a good team. I did not see a single deep completion in the Sugar Bowl from us.

We didn’t need to either though. You don’t just start chucking the ball all over the place just to do it. That wouldn’t have been a smart decision.
 
I was here in 2016 when 80% of the fan base wanted Brian Kelly fired after going 4-8. Pete Bevacqua doesn’t give a shit what a handful of random fans feel about Marcus Freeman.

No, but Swarbick definitely knew changes were in order and Kelly was basically forced to revamp his staff or probably go himself. BVG was gone immediately
 
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They certainly made the schedule more manageable for Kelly after that debacle.

Not really IMO. Schedules are made years in advance. You also don’t do home/homes with the likes of UGA, UTx, Michigan and OSU while trying to soften your schedule. Clemson /FSU were sprinkled in as a part time member of the ACC. Our schedule problem was more of a result of teams that normally are better being not so good anymore (USC etc)
 
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That wasn't my point. My point was that as soon as ND experiences its next setback, people will be calling for Freeman's head. Not that the university is going to rush out and can him.
Which means nothing. There is a lunatic fringe of people in every fan base.
 
Which means nothing. There is a lunatic fringe of people in every fan base.

Some posters throw in the towel during games ND eventually wins!

:D

I'd be surprised if posters attack MF, even for a suboptimal next game during this remarkable playoff run. Mind you, I don't expect ND to lay an egg. If on the off chance they do, MF will adjust and continue to improve on a remarkable season...and I will continue to support him.

Minimally on a 5 year tenure. Minimally. Fingers crossed for continued success...that we can debate a repeat of a championship! Now that would be fun to argue about next season!

;)
 
Some posters throw in the towel during games ND eventually wins!

:D

I'd be surprised if posters attack MF, even for a suboptimal next game during this remarkable playoff run. Mind you, I don't expect ND to lay an egg. If on the off chance they do, MF will adjust and continue to improve on a remarkable season...and I will continue to support him.

Minimally on a 5 year tenure. Minimally. Fingers crossed for continued success...that we can debate a repeat of a championship! Now that would be fun to argue about next season!

;)
Attack /=/ criticism.
 
This year's defense does not change the reality of the situation in 2021.




Yes this. We have one half of a good team. I did not see a single deep completion in the Sugar Bowl from us.
I can't tell if you're an idiot or just trolling.

So you want deep completions? That's what would make us a "full good team"?

We've had few "deep completions" all year.

Yet we're 13-1, and have beaten ranked teams in every month of the season.
 
I can't tell if you're an idiot or just trolling.

So you want deep completions? That's what would make us a "full good team"?

We've had few "deep completions" all year.

Yet we're 13-1, and have beaten ranked teams in every month of the season.
That's what I'm hoping we do, at least a couple times, just as a surprise tactic, given how overtly PSU appears to want to take away a team's strength, as they did with Boise St. and AJ, and make you beat them with the pass. And we should totally go long. Like if we had an 80 yard TD pass they totally weren't expecting, and it was a brilliant play call, and we're immediately ahead and PSU's already demoralized. And we do it again in the 3rd quarter. Pull out all the stops....
 
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