Kelly drew first blood, not us
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Spot on - John J. Spot on.
Bad Karma on Bk's part - BK was more concerned about his Eagles interview than getting his team ready to play Bama.
IF the Eagles had actually offered BK the job he would of been gone and it would of been the best the thing to happen to ND.
Thats not the point I Mike - the point is it pre-occuppied him and he did a piss poor job of getting ND ready to play their biggest game since 1988.
Then he remained silent for a good week after the interview. IT was how he handled it that pissed a lot of us off and him not having the team ready to play. That is what pisses people off.
I just wish they had offered him the job. It would of been the best thing for ND.
Catfish, he drew first blood, not us. Show him no quarter. Would he have shown us any in 2012? I think not. Secure the brand. Make Notre Dame Great Again!
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You know what was even more ****ed up....
Swarblockhead came out and tried to tell us all how amazingly wonderful it all was that Brian Kelly was contemplating bailing on his team right before its big game.
God damn why couldn't they have hired his loser ass.
I hate the eagles so it would have been a perfect match
Swarblockhead came out and tried to tell us all how amazingly wonderful it all was that Brian Kelly was contemplating bailing on his team right before its big game.
God damn why couldn't they have hired his loser ass.
I hate the eagles so it would have been a perfect match
bk showed his true colors when he left his Cincy team undefeated going into a bowl game to come to ND. I don't care how much money was involved, he coached that team the entire year and left them hanging. I would have had a lot of respect for the guy if he told ND "Look I want to coach ND but I have to stay with these kids and finish out the season". He didn't, thats the kind of guy he is.
you can't be serious.....in the midst of Notre Dame's best season in a couple of decades....when 19 year old players are positioned for a once in a lifetime experience they have played their entire lives for...and this guy is looking at a career move at that time? Its ironic that posters criticize others here for posting negative things that "affect the players"...but Brian Kelly can interview for a pro job during a title run and those same players can handle that just fine? That displayed a detachment from his players than cannot be explained away.
Again, someone who doesn't remember the history. Just several weeks before going to the NC, 8 & 4 said that ND was his destination job. He wanted to be HERE and nowhere else. Within 24 hours of the finish of the game this clown is off to Philly. Really? Get real, that trip was planned in advance. It was on 8 & 4's mind. He chose to subjugate his own team to his personal well being. His job was to coach ND, instead he had half his mind on an interview with Philly. Do you not understand that an interview of that magnitude is prepared for? What do you think his agent and management firm were doing? This was an enormousness betrayal to the institution who employed him and to the players who he lead. That was the sickening aspect to this sorry episode and the most telling as to his character. Ask the Cincy players about his commitment to them. This is reoccurring and a terrible character trait that amazes it didn't send red flags up everyone's mind in the administration. Ty was always halfway on the golf course or living the dream of getting a bigger job in the pros. What happened here was a coach betraying his team to morph into the NFL. Yeah, career advancement.
I have no problem with Kelly wanting to advance his career. At the time I thought it impacted preparation for that game but after last years beat down at the hands of O$U I'm not so sure anymore.
I'll help you. Kelly vs. any quality coach it's 100% left up to our players ability. we get no edge from the sideline. that's fact
Mr.Wigglesby - I really enjoyed that first blood movie - and that line is one of the all timers and was funny as hell when I saw it here again as you pertained it spot on to BK !
88ND...understand the post, but think it is worse than this. Texas and NCS were both winnable games this year, and the coaches were a net deficit for the players to try to overcome, which they couldn't. As stupid as it sounds, I think the players would have won both of these games if they were without coaches on the sidelines.
Not hitting for five weeks most definitely impacted game preparation and performance, and Kelly has said that was a mistake that he wouldn't make again. But there's no indication that the Eagles thing had any impact on anything. At that juncture it would have been primarily his agent dealing with the Eagles.
Can't believe I didn't realize this until now, but Kelly somewhat resembles Brian Dennehy:
IrishBlessings-----I understand your point, but come on.....That Alabama team was going to blow the doors off of ND no matter how focused or fired up the Irish were. Lets not act like BK flirting with the Eagles is the reason that we got pounded.
HAHA!! Get real. Thy hypocrisy is amazing around here. If he would've waited until after the Bowl Game, then you woulda been the first one in line crying......."He's not a real ND Man! He shoulda been here Day 1."
Honestly, I think Kelly is 50% correct on this. I don't think the Eagles job was a distraction but I don't think he learned his lesson. Look at the O$U spanking last year, no NFL job hunting and we still got humiliated so I doubt he learned much of anything from the curb stomping Bama gave us.
I completely disagree. Looking back I don't think ND could have beaten Bama but we certainly shouldn't have been abused as badly as we were.
Let's all be honest. We like to make Saban out to be Satan but if he hadn't called off the dogs that game could have easily been 70-0. We couldn't gain a foot on offense and could not stop them at all on defense.
Chip was a damn good CFB coach. Honestly, if he gets let go by the 49s I'd take him in a heartbeat. CFB and NFL are vastly different and failing in the NFL doesn't mean you aren't a good CFB coach, just ask Saban and Spurrier
You'd have to know the details of our OSU preparation to have an opinion on that. Sometimes you can go through perfect preparation and still stink it up in the game, and sometimes the opponent is just better than you are.
Can't believe I didn't realize this until now, but Kelly somewhat resembles Brian Dennehy:
Too funny. He does. It is good to chuckle and find some good humor in this horrendous season of ND football.
He also ditched his CMU team before their "Motor City Bowl" appearance.
At the ND/'bama Saturday pre NC PC knowing he had an interview pending: He stated:
Q. Coach Saban said he was a college coach after having dipped into the NFL. Is that the same for you? Are you a college coach or has the NFL ever been a desire for you?
COACH BRIAN KELLY: No, and I think when I took the job at Notre Dame, I think I said it was a dream job. But I never went around day to day thinking about being the Notre Dame head coach, because the job that I had in hand was what I was thinking about. And I think that's the same thing with the NFL.
I think from my perspective I've got the best job in the country, NFL, college, high school, whatever....
PS weis delivered 3 top 10 recruiting classes in his last 4 years including the # 2 class.
See, this is where we disagree. Kelly (or any coach) shouldn't be judged on anything but the end product and against O$U that product was putrid. Like I said, I think O$U (and Bama) were better than us but not to the degree we saw.
However Kelly prepared the teams for Bama and O$U is irrelevant, IMO. What matters is the preparation was wrong because the product on the field was about as bad as it possibly could be.
That's fine as far as judging a coach on results, but you are trying to make direct correlation between preparation and how you play, and it just doesn't work that way all of the time. The opponent has a say in the matter, along with the inconsistencies of athletes, especially young ones . You can have a "great week of practice" and have a "great game plan" and get smoked on Saturday afternoon. It happens all the time to teams. Ask anyone who has coached a team sport.
I think we'll just agree to disagree because I don't agree at all. I could agree with the above if you were talking about O$U vs EMU, but when you are talking about a team with a fair amount of talent like ND I could not disagree more. If you prepare properly and have a great game plan you would at least have a competitive game.
Actually, it was pretty accurate and clever analogy - But, I'll say this - Kelly actually showed us all his true colors in his first season in the Tulsa game when he made a Charlie Weise like in game coaching decision to throw the ball when he had a FG to win the game. And then followed up in his post game press conference w/ a Charlie Weise like Ego Induced statement - of the following - "I'd do it again - GET USED TO IT"
The First Blood reference could of been used w/ this TULSA moment.
As for the TULSA moment - I look back on it and say "Wow" - if I'm Jack S. - I say to myself - "I may of made a bad hire" - and for myself at the time - I thought this cant be happening and tried like hell to wash that TULSA moment from my mind and believe really hard that BK was the right man for ND. I gave BK a mulligan at the time.
But, as the seasons have come and gone - BK was spot on that day - he does continue to make bad in game coaching decisions - he continues to lose games to teams he is supposed to beat. And Jack S. has no clue on how average of a coach 8-4 BK really is.
BK is a little better than TW and CW and BD - but not by much. Just barely above average is perfectly acceptable now for a lot of ND fans.
It's definitely acceptable to Jack S.
there you go....injecting real world reason into the equation.....You peeled away a couple of layers too many on that onion for some of these PC types constantly blowing on their Barney Fife whistle.
Ugh No, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. How does a coach leave his team when they are playing the biggest game of their lives? Sorry but bk is a lame a$$ coach
