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Kelly Blames Fundraising for 4-8 Season

For Sure. His act is wearing on me. I need to see something that gives me hope. And for a fan of ND for 35 years, this is just sad. For me, this is it, his last chance. I believe people can change, we'll see..
All the positive moves since the end of 2016 don't give you any hope ? Sure last year was awful but the season before that took them into the hunt for the playoff into November. I guess it's what each individual chooses to focus on as a fan. I m optimistic.
 
Subsitute Trump for Kelly and move this conversation to CNN. I defy you to tell the difference. ND Fake News Forum.Starring the Sewing Circle & Anderson Cooper. Next up at 9pm did Kelly collude with Moscow? Special Guest will be Purse who will explain why Deshone Kizer is already better than Tom Brady and no one but him knows it.
 
Subsitute Trump for Kelly and move this conversation to CNN. I defy you to tell the difference. ND Fake News Forum.Starring the Sewing Circle & Anderson Cooper. Next up at 9pm did Kelly collude with Moscow? Special Guest will be Purse who will explain why Deshone Kizer is already better than Tom Brady and no one but him knows it.
So are you saying Kelly did not say these things and that the article is fake? Have we reached that point that Kelly's own words is fake news? 4-8 and are still in denial. Kelly said that fundraising distracted him from doing his job. How is that Fake news? And how in the world can you defend him? Maybe you should think about rooting for ND instead of Kelly.
 
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"I was the absent professor," Kelly said. "I wasn't paying attention to the details that we needed. There were internal issues that—if a guy is on it, and he's doing his job as the head coach, he would've seen those things early. My flawed philosophy was, We're going to score points early while we're figuring it out on the other side with a young defense. Well, that didn't happen. We gave up way too many points early, we lost three games, and now we're in trouble."

Yep, bump his salary another mil. 7 years, one excuse after another, one disappointment after another...the dog ate his game plan explanation. This is a D1 head coach? This is the type of guy you have faith in? For those who say yes, well, Swarbrick agrees. If coach 8&4 or coach 4&8 has another excuse filled year, what do you do then, extend his contract another year? This program is a mess. It needs a complete change, but to do that the AD, BOT and Jenkins would have to admit a colossal mistake. The first 4 games will be the season. Lose 2 and the pressure and troubles will only mount. This program is hinged on how good Wimbush can become. He, above everyone else in this program, will determine ND football's future. Otherwise....more of the "absent" minded professor?


IMHO - this post is spot-on!

This is exactly why I have been critical of Swarbrick - in 6 seasons Kelly had (arguably) 1 significant win.....OU 2012 in Norman.

Kelly's teams have otherwise underachieved, with great consistency - playing down to and too often losing to 'lesser' competition.

Then Happy Jack extends Kelly's contract with an apparent raise?

I thought Weis was a champ at finding new and different ways to lose games - Kelly would give Charlie a run for his money on that one.
 
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IMHO - this post is spot-on!

This is exactly why I have been critical of Swarbrick - in 6 seasons Kelly had (arguably) 1 significant win.....OU 2012 in Norman.

Kelly's teams have otherwise underachieved, with great consistency - playing down to and too often losing to 'lesser' competition.

Then Happy Jack extends Kelly's contract with an apparent raise?

I thought Weis was a champ at finding new and different ways to lose games - Kelly would give Charlie a run for his money on that one.
Kelly actually tops Weis in innovative ways to lose games. Kelly has had much more talented teams and has proven adept at losing to teams he should rout.
 
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We've already reached that point in L.A. after the USC game. He was trying all the NFL teams and many college teams also. I doubt that story myself. I doubt this one too. It's just noise again.
 
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Talk is cheap. Whether you're pro-Kelly or anti-Kelly, it doesn't matter at this point. Whether he's taking responsibility or making excuses, we shall all soon find out.

It is pretty clear to everybody (Kelly included) that he will not have the opportunity to make any excuses for 2017. He has to win or he's going to be shown the door.

It's time to shut the eff up and go out and prove it on the field!!

Prove that you're taking responsibility. Prove that your sole focus is on football. Prove that your team is prepared. Prove that you've handed over the reigns to your OC. Prove that home field advantage means something again. Prove you can win the big games. Prove that you can make halftime adjustments. Prove your detractors wrong. There is no tomorrow and there is no next season. The time is now to put up or shut up.
 
"I was the absent professor," Kelly said. "I wasn't paying attention to the details that we needed. There were internal issues that—if a guy is on it, and he's doing his job as the head coach, he would've seen those things early. My flawed philosophy was, We're going to score points early while we're figuring it out on the other side with a young defense. Well, that didn't happen. We gave up way too many points early, we lost three games, and now we're in trouble."

Yep, bump his salary another mil. 7 years, one excuse after another, one disappointment after another...the dog ate his game plan explanation. This is a D1 head coach? This is the type of guy you have faith in? For those who say yes, well, Swarbrick agrees. If coach 8&4 or coach 4&8 has another excuse filled year, what do you do then, extend his contract another year? This program is a mess. It needs a complete change, but to do that the AD, BOT and Jenkins would have to admit a colossal mistake. The first 4 games will be the season. Lose 2 and the pressure and troubles will only mount. This program is hinged on how good Wimbush can become. He, above everyone else in this program, will determine ND football's future. Otherwise....more of the "absent" minded professor?
It was the "absent MINDED professor"........unfortunately I am old enough to remember the original movie starring Fred McMurray....
 
comic relief? Obviously you have never been involved with a coach/player relationship. You are clueless
Kelly did exactly what his new employer required him to do. It happens more often than not when a coach changes jobs. You are the clueless one.
 
Kelly did exactly what his new employer required him to do. It happens more often than not when a coach changes jobs. You are the clueless one.
Sorry Charlie. If you recall at the time bk was the "hot coach everyone wanted". He was in charge and had a lot of programs looking at him. He had an undefeated season at Cincy. ND would have left him coach for another month if bk had the nads to tell them he wanted to coach in the bowl game. He let his players down, he has no character, and he's a mediocre coach. ND really thought they had something.......8 win seasons.
 
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On the bright side, if ND hired Randy Edsall rather than Brian Kelly. The program would have been discontinued by now.

Imagine what a disaster that would have been!
 
On the bright side, if ND hired Randy Edsall rather than Brian Kelly. The program would have been discontinued by now.

Imagine what a disaster that would have been!
You and I could have coached ND to a 4-8 season for a lot less money. bk was a complete disaster.
 
Sorry Charlie. If you recall at the time bk was the "hot coach everyone wanted". He was in charge and had a lot of programs looking at him. He had an undefeated season at Cincy. ND would have left him coach for another month if bk had the nads to tell them he wanted to coach in the bowl game. He let his players down, he has no character, and he's a mediocre coach. ND really thought they had something.......8 win seasons.
False. ND hierarchy required him to be on the job.best situation for all involved. It is one of the negatives of coaching changes that occur before seasons end. Given the recruiting calendar it needs to be that way. You continue to let your hate get in the way off common sense. Enjoy the season as you root for Brian Kelly and his team to fail.
 
Kelly actually tops Weis in innovative ways to lose games. Kelly has had much more talented teams and has proven adept at losing to teams he should rout.

Disagree. No one in program history has wasted as much talent as Weis had in 2009.
 
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False. ND hierarchy required him to be on the job.best situation for all involved. It is one of the negatives of coaching changes that occur before seasons end. Given the recruiting calendar it needs to be that way. You continue to let your hate get in the way off common sense. Enjoy the season as you root for Brian Kelly and his team to fail.
You don't know that, you are assuming that. If bk told them he was coaching cincy in the bowl game they would have let him. Remember the ND brass thought they had a real prize......unfortunately not.The only thing I will be rooting for is for bk to be gone. Hopefully they win 11-12 games, and bk will again think he is ready for the pros and he leaves. Doubtful any NFL teams would want him though.
 
You don't know that, you are assuming that. If bk told them he was coaching cincy in the bowl game they would have let him. Remember the ND brass thought they had a real prize......unfortunately not.The only thing I will be rooting for is for bk to be gone. Hopefully they win 11-12 games, and bk will again think he is ready for the pros and he leaves. Doubtful any NFL teams would want him though.
No. I do know that. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your narrative.
 
Uhm no but I don't get paid $5 mil a year either. Be happy with mr. 8-5, I prefer 11-12 win seasons.
So you are saying you can coach a team to a lousy season but not a good one. I get that. Yes last year was lousy. Should Kelly give the money back ? You just don't y like the guy,period.
 
Facts like Kelly chucking the ball 50x in a hurricane ... oops .... that's just old news ... forever the apologist ad nauseam
Who was discussing that game ? We were debating Kelly's hiring.You should really make a better effort to keep up if you are going to participate.
 
No. I do know that. Sorry if the facts get in the way of your narrative.
Oh really? Are you bk housekeeper or his mistress? You don't know $hit. How do you know? Seeing that you were on this sight last night at 6:30 you obviously aren't the coach you think you are. Oh that's right, Pop Warner plays on Saturdays. coach my a$$
 
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So you are saying you can coach a team to a lousy season but not a good one. I get that. Yes last year was lousy. Should Kelly give the money back ? You just don't y like the guy,period.
You are correct, I do not like the guy. Overpaid, overhyped, mediocre coach. I said from the beginning that he wasn't the answer. If you don't believe it look back 7 years ago. This guy is a fricking jamoke and needs to go
 
Facts like Kelly chucking the ball 50x in a hurricane ... oops .... that's just old news ... forever the apologist ad nauseam
Funny, but he is an offensive genius. Oh maybe not. It had nothing to do with throwing the ball 50x, it was the centers fault. That's why they lost. These clowns will never admit that bk sucks as head coach.
 
You are correct, I do not like the guy. Overpaid, overhyped, mediocre coach. I said from the beginning that he wasn't the answer. If you don't believe it look back 7 years ago. This guy is a fricking jamoke and needs to go

According to your profile, you joined in 2015. How are we going to look back seven years ago? What name were you posting under seven years ago?
 
Disagree. No one in program history has wasted as much talent as Weis had in 2009.
Weis recruited great offensive talent, but he generally flailed in landing solid defensive guys. Hard for me to zealously defend him, but I don't think anything he did compares to the baffling end zone pick vs Tulsa, the Little Giants play vs MSU, the bizarre 2 point conversion attempt vs Northwestern, defying the hurricane vs NC State...to name a few.
 
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Who was discussing that game ? We were debating Kelly's hiring.You should really make a better effort to keep up if you are going to participate.

Proof that it was ... is ... a bad hire .... we understand these facts get in the way of your totally flawed reasoning ..... and thus you choose to ignore those facts .... :confused:
 
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I actually read the article today .... because I rarely read anything BK is spewing ... proof the guy still doesn't get it .... participating in fundraisers and doing public speaking on behalf of the university .... is .... and ALWAYS has been .... a part of being head coach at ND .... deal with it .... but no .... he is passing the buck again

To those that say he accepted blame after last year .... that is junk .... and apparently not any more ..... it was only a PR ploy since it was obvious he needed to do something with billboards going up (literally) calling for his head after he was called out ALL SEASON for blaming everyone else

BK is a fraud ... he should run for political office ..... he'd make a great politician :rolleyes:
 
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According to your profile, you joined in 2015. How are we going to look back seven years ago? What name were you posting under seven years ago?
I have been on numerous boards for past 20 years. Believe me I have posted numerous times how ND was making a mistake hiring this clown
 
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