Joe Schmidt..??

[88ND]

Ok so here is your chance. I see a lot of people bashing and saying replace him to which I say you not a clue how his position is to be played properly.

So why? Tell me your reason.

Tackling does NOT count because in that case the whole ****ing team this year needs replaced outside of Day.

 

[echowaker]

Ok so here is your chance. I see a lot of people bashing and saying replace him to which I say you not a clue how his position is to be played properly.

So why? Tell me your reason.

Tackling does NOT count because in that case the whole ****ing team this year needs replaced outside of Day.

many factors involved in decisions like those. Schmidt has been in position he just hasn't finished. I believe if there was a better option they'd be in there. kind of like when calabrese played. best they had at the time. that said I'd take Schmidt any day over calabrese and fox.

 

[FightingIrish44]

I feel the need to stick up for the two most under appreciated guys in a long time.

Schmidt isn't in Carlo or Fox's league. Not even close.

I don't mean to be a prick. I just hate the lack of respect those two get. They were good college football players.

 

[perseverare]

44

often time people, regardless of any obvious information or for want of less rigid word, 'proof' they are afixated in a conclusion or mindset. We have posters who are so inclined. They just shoot from the hip with little effort to look at anything but what they 'want to believe'. There is NOTHING, no way to address them with information or data; they don't want it. Best leave the delusional to the delusion.

They come around when they are boxed into a corner - by fact or truth.

 

[bizzybecknd]

Haha fact and truth.. 2 words you have no business spewing.

 

[NDlb46]

88...
I wish I was Joe Schmidt. I would give anything to wake up in his shoes, put his cleats on and be able to do what he does day in and day out.

However, here is my opinion...

ND Football 2014 - Joe Schmidt is the absolute glue of the defense. He is one of the few who understands BVG's system right away, thus turning into safety net for all other 10 players on the field during 2014. Joe plays fast, plays smart, and plays very well within the system.

ND Football 2015 - Most other players have now caught up in regards to their understanding of the defense. The team as a whole is not 100% on its complexities. The mistakes are human mistakes. Joe is now playing with more gifted athletes around him that are playing faster than they were last year. Joe has a job to do, a gap to fill, a zone to cover. Last year he was one of the first ones to the gap or zone because of his intellect. This year he is one of the last to his gap or zone, which is why we see him so often as the "goat" on a long run because his gap is the one open and the tackle or TE blocking down, or guard pulling through, has their hands on him and are neutralizing him which is a win for the offense. This is why some of the better adjustments have been...putting in J. Grace (4* talent) against NAVY to take on the quick dive on the veer option and adjusting the alignment of D. Cage and S. Day to cover up the linemen against USC not allowing any of them to have a "free shot" at J. Schmidt for most of the plays in the 2nd half.

Let me state, that I don't rewatch the games. I don't dissect them as film. I do that enough as a HS coach and don't need to spend more of my life breaking down play after play. What I see live is my first impression and last, so if I don't catch something, or don't see something like I first think, then oh' well.

 

[88ND]

NDLb46...
You make a well thought out analysis.....if it were factual would he even better.
Let me explain. Umass. The long run. Joe keys on the fullback. Takes him out of the play. Meets him at the line of scrimmage. There is no thinking and being studious filling a hole. You either have the courage to do it right or not.
Anyways he takes the fullback out. What happens next ? Jaylon ALLOWS s the tight end to engage him. Instead of taking that block on ...he stands there and hesitates like he always does in the box. It's not because Jaylon is dumb. It's because Jaylon does not want to bang heads like that and take the play to the blocker. No way.
So he allows the tight end to engage him three yards down field ....the guard actually delays to see if the tight end gets a hat on Jaylon....yes ...so the guard is now 15 yards down field blocking our safety. It was Farley who is horrible himself but another player just waiting to get engaged rather than taking the Play to. The result? Well....it was one of the longest runs against Notre dame in a long time.
The humor here is nobody has anything to say negative about the all everything Jaylon. Not a peep. Yet Jaylon in the box is absolutely atrocious.
He is a physical freak who can track anything down he wants but filling holes ....which is bell ringing if done right.....he wants nothing to do with it. Zero.
People can cite all the tackles they want....but I will gladly show you every one of those tackles could have been sooner for much less yardage yielded.

I love Jaylon and he has unparalleled physical gifts but I call what I know.

The above example happens all the time with our defense. Joe takes his guy out with Jaylon waiting on the back to come to him. A big no no playing linebacker. Yet not a word about Jaylon.

I don't care who is playing middle . It is a simple basic straight ahead aproach. Key on the lead blocker, full back or guard, take them out instantly. If you can do that and make the tackle bonus......but we take them out and now the other backers need to clean it up. Are they? NO!!!!!

The tackling by everyone is awful outside of Day.

Here is a question.....

How is it that Day is so much bigger than the back seven yet he gets lower and wraps up behind the knees more than the smaller back seven!!!??? Our tackling at times is nothing more than sheer laziness and truth be told very embarrassing.

But I'm sure that is Joe's fault too.

 

[ndfi65]

NDLb46...
You make a well thought out analysis.....if it were factual would he even better.
Let me explain. Umass. The long run. Joe keys on the fullback. Takes him out of the play. Meets him at the line of scrimmage. There is no thinking and being studious filling a hole. You either have the courage to do it right or not.
Anyways he takes the fullback out. What happens next ? Jaylon ALLOWS s the tight end to engage him. Instead of taking that block on ...he stands there and hesitates like he always does in the box. It's not because Jaylon is dumb. It's because Jaylon does not want to bang heads like that and take the play to the blocker. No way.
So he allows the tight end to engage him three yards down field ....the guard actually delays to see if the tight end gets a hat on Jaylon....yes ...so the guard is now 15 yards down field blocking our safety. It was Farley who is horrible himself but another player just waiting to get engaged rather than taking the Play to. The result? Well....it was one of the longest runs against Notre dame in a long time.
The humor here is nobody has anything to say negative about the all everything Jaylon. Not a peep. Yet Jaylon in the box is absolutely atrocious.
He is a physical freak who can track anything down he wants but filling holes ....which is bell ringing if done right.....he wants nothing to do with it. Zero.
People can cite all the tackles they want....but I will gladly show you every one of those tackles could have been sooner for much less yardage yielded.

I love Jaylon and he has unparalleled physical gifts but I call what I know.

The above example happens all the time with our defense. Joe takes his guy out with Jaylon waiting on the back to come to him. A big no no playing linebacker. Yet not a word about Jaylon.

I don't care who is playing middle . It is a simple basic straight ahead aproach. Key on the lead blocker, full back or guard, take them out instantly. If you can do that and make the tackle bonus......but we take them out and now the other backers need to clean it up. Are they? NO!!!!!

The tackling by everyone is awful outside of Day.

Here is a question.....

How is it that Day is so much bigger than the back seven yet he gets lower and wraps up behind the knees more than the smaller back seven!!!??? Our tackling at times is nothing more than sheer laziness and truth be told very embarrassing.

But I'm sure that is Joe's fault too.

You are a complete JOKE "Mr. I KNOW" You reference one bad play Jaylon supposedly made. Maybe we aren't bashing him because for every one bad play he makes, he makes twenty good ones. Just the opposite of your "brother" Joe.

 

[perseverare]

words words words...just results are what count: watch the plays! one after another. We are not all ever going to agree but at least explanation will have a basis, instead of shooting from the hip.

(NL46: NOT directed at you)

 

[NDlb46]

NDLb46...
You make a well thought out analysis.....if it were factual would he even better.
Let me explain. Umass. The long run. Joe keys on the fullback. Takes him out of the play. Meets him at the line of scrimmage. There is no thinking and being studious filling a hole. You either have the courage to do it right or not.
Anyways he takes the fullback out. What happens next ? Jaylon ALLOWS s the tight end to engage him. Instead of taking that block on ...he stands there and hesitates like he always does in the box. It's not because Jaylon is dumb. It's because Jaylon does not want to bang heads like that and take the play to the blocker. No way.
So he allows the tight end to engage him three yards down field ....the guard actually delays to see if the tight end gets a hat on Jaylon....yes ...so the guard is now 15 yards down field blocking our safety. It was Farley who is horrible himself but another player just waiting to get engaged rather than taking the Play to. The result? Well....it was one of the longest runs against Notre dame in a long time.
The humor here is nobody has anything to say negative about the all everything Jaylon. Not a peep. Yet Jaylon in the box is absolutely atrocious.
He is a physical freak who can track anything down he wants but filling holes ....which is bell ringing if done right.....he wants nothing to do with it. Zero.
People can cite all the tackles they want....but I will gladly show you every one of those tackles could have been sooner for much less yardage yielded.

I love Jaylon and he has unparalleled physical gifts but I call what I know.

The above example happens all the time with our defense. Joe takes his guy out with Jaylon waiting on the back to come to him. A big no no playing linebacker. Yet not a word about Jaylon.

I don't care who is playing middle . It is a simple basic straight ahead aproach. Key on the lead blocker, full back or guard, take them out instantly. If you can do that and make the tackle bonus......but we take them out and now the other backers need to clean it up. Are they? NO!!!!!

The tackling by everyone is awful outside of Day.

Here is a question.....

How is it that Day is so much bigger than the back seven yet he gets lower and wraps up behind the knees more than the smaller back seven!!!??? Our tackling at times is nothing more than sheer laziness and truth be told very embarrassing.

But I'm sure that is Joe's fault too.

I can't buy into your 1 play example 88. Show me a breakdown of each play ND has given up that was a 10+ yd run or a completion over the middle of the field inside of 15 yards and then we are talking about some good data.

Look, Joe is starting which means when the coaches evaluate him on performance, missed tackles, missed assignments, etc. and weigh that against the possible productivity of the next man in, so they clearly still lean to Joe

Personally, I'd rather see what Grace or Morgan can do to compare to Joe's production.

 

[echowaker]

I feel the need to stick up for the two most under appreciated guys in a long time.

Schmidt isn't in Carlo or Fox's league. Not even close.

I don't mean to be a prick. I just hate the lack of respect those two get. They were good college football players.

sorry, they were not. fox was decent in coverage and that's about it. carlo was ALWAYS late to the ball. not sure if he ever made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage.

 

[echowaker]

NDLb46...
You make a well thought out analysis.....if it were factual would he even better.
Let me explain. Umass. The long run. Joe keys on the fullback. Takes him out of the play. Meets him at the line of scrimmage. There is no thinking and being studious filling a hole. You either have the courage to do it right or not.
Anyways he takes the fullback out. What happens next ? Jaylon ALLOWS s the tight end to engage him. Instead of taking that block on ...he stands there and hesitates like he always does in the box. It's not because Jaylon is dumb. It's because Jaylon does not want to bang heads like that and take the play to the blocker. No way.
So he allows the tight end to engage him three yards down field ....the guard actually delays to see if the tight end gets a hat on Jaylon....yes ...so the guard is now 15 yards down field blocking our safety. It was Farley who is horrible himself but another player just waiting to get engaged rather than taking the Play to. The result? Well....it was one of the longest runs against Notre dame in a long time.
The humor here is nobody has anything to say negative about the all everything Jaylon. Not a peep. Yet Jaylon in the box is absolutely atrocious.
He is a physical freak who can track anything down he wants but filling holes ....which is bell ringing if done right.....he wants nothing to do with it. Zero.
People can cite all the tackles they want....but I will gladly show you every one of those tackles could have been sooner for much less yardage yielded.

I love Jaylon and he has unparalleled physical gifts but I call what I know.

The above example happens all the time with our defense. Joe takes his guy out with Jaylon waiting on the back to come to him. A big no no playing linebacker. Yet not a word about Jaylon.

I don't care who is playing middle . It is a simple basic straight ahead aproach. Key on the lead blocker, full back or guard, take them out instantly. If you can do that and make the tackle bonus......but we take them out and now the other backers need to clean it up. Are they? NO!!!!!

The tackling by everyone is awful outside of Day.

Here is a question.....

How is it that Day is so much bigger than the back seven yet he gets lower and wraps up behind the knees more than the smaller back seven!!!??? Our tackling at times is nothing more than sheer laziness and truth be told very embarrassing.

But I'm sure that is Joe's fault too.

what is your background ? not a lot of your rambling makes a lot of sense to me and I've been in the game 30 plus years. you focus on one thing and the picture is so much larger than that.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

These threads become pissing contests by a bunch of "keyboard no-it-alls". No offense to anybody, but the fact is, if ND had a better option than JS, then that better option would be playing. All the BS and so-called expertise on this board won't change that

 

[perseverare]

^ hip shooter alert ^

 

[NDlb46]

Dang Die Hard. Who took the jelly out of your donut this morning? It's a free internet message board on college football, the sport with the most fanatical fan base, what do you expect? People to not share their opinions, arguments, thoughts, and emotions?

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Dang Die Hard. Who took the jelly out of your donut this morning? It's a free internet message board on college football, the sport with the most fanatical fan base, what do you expect? People to not share their opinions, arguments, thoughts, and emotions?

I can take evaluating the games and discussing football, but player personnel? Really? No one on this board is qualified for that. So if we keep to the game and our games, I'm good with that, but attacking players or player personnel decisions is just drivel.

 

[HRC08]

I feel the need to stick up for the two most under appreciated guys in a long time.

Schmidt isn't in Carlo or Fox's league. Not even close.

I don't mean to be a prick. I just hate the lack of respect those two get. They were good college football players.

Schmidt isn't close to the player Fox and Calebrese were. Some people.

 

[perseverare]

46
re dieh...
he is doing his assignment, that is to interfer or stiffle discussion on the board.
He always posts about posters and NEVER on the topic. Methods are Always character assassinations and or vulgar to try to intimidate posters. Complete bore.
It is his role here. He is part of a small group with dozens of ID's.


nothing to say on the topic....shut ya pie hole!

 

[DieHard_Irish]

46
re dieh...
he is doing his assignment, that is to interfer or stiffle discussion on the board.
He always posts about posters and NEVER on the topic.
It is his role here. He is part of a small group with dozens of ID's

Your a dickhead. I have all along asked for your credentials in football coaching, but you never list them. You just go on questioning something you obviously know nothing about. So I say again, what is your coaching expertise, and where did you coach? You find it easy to questions our guys with decades of both D1 and NFL experience. Where do you fit in that? All I hear is a lot of noise .... Oh but I forgot, you put in the work and evaluated the tape. Seriously? Any idea how stupid that sounds? The other thing is I've read you put people on "iggy". ... "Iggy". Really? How old are you?

 

[NDlb46]

I can take evaluating the games and discussing football, but player personnel? Really? No one on this board is qualified for that. So if we keep to the game and our games, I'm good with that, but attacking players or player personnel decisions is just drivel.

I get your angle, but I don't think you'll ever see a message board in CFB that doesn't discuss player personnel. Even if you look on the member's board, there are threads discussing player personnel. Everybody has an opinion and wants their opinion to be heard. As for attacking the players, no one attacked, made nasty comments, or insulted any of our players. Just other posters.

 

[perseverare]

every comment has been about the level of play. This topic has been almost universal accross forums.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

I get your angle, but I don't think you'll ever see a message board in CFB that doesn't discuss player personnel. Even if you look on the member's board, there are threads discussing player personnel. Everybody has an opinion and wants their opinion to be heard. As for attacking the players, no one attacked, made nasty comments, or insulted any of our players. Just other posters.

Fair enough. The only point I am and have been making throughout is that if JS was not our best option to win, then he would not be in there. These coaches are with the players all week, they know significantly more about them then we do, they get and retain their jobs by winning, they have, collectively, decades of experience, they review film thoroughly; I trust they know who should and should not play

 

[echowaker]

Schmidt isn't close to the player Fox and Calebrese were. Some people.

you're nuts. I've been watching nd football for my entire life. don't think I ever saw a less effective linebacker than calabrese. I'd take Schmidt any day over those two. I will give credit to fox being pretty good in coverage. awful at the point of attack.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

every comment has been about the level of play. This topic has been almost universal accross forums.

Yes, a level of play you know nothing about. Oh, I'm sorry, you're right, I forgot, you put in the work. Credentials please?

 

[NDlb46]

Fair enough. The only point I am and have been making throughout is that if JS was not our best option to win, then he would not be in there. These coaches are with the players all week, they know significantly more about them then we do, they get and retain their jobs by winning, they have, collectively, decades of experience, they review film thoroughly; I trust they know who should and should not play

99% of the time, I would agree with that whole heartedly. I see those players for 3.5 hours each Saturday. Kelly and BVG for probably 40 hours plus. But we did just live through the Golson/Zaire issue from last year. Coaches can make mistakes in judgement in personnel through loyalty, rose-colored glasses, compassion, desperation, fear of making a mistake, etc. Kelly makes far fewer than our more recent coaching hires and thank God for that.

 

[echowaker]

99% of the time, I would agree with that whole heartedly. I see those players for 3.5 hours each Saturday. Kelly and BVG for probably 40 hours plus. But we did just live through the Golson/Zaire issue from last year. Coaches can make mistakes in judgement in personnel through loyalty, rose-colored glasses, compassion, desperation, fear of making a mistake, etc. Kelly makes far fewer than our more recent coaching hires and thank God for that.

its hindsight to say zaire should have played sooner last year. did he do the work necessary to prepare himself to play ? only the staff knows that for certain. the coaches livelihoods are at stake. just because a player doesn't perform well, it doesn't mean that player didn't deserve to be playing.

 

[kellys heroes 35]

99% of the time, I would agree with that whole heartedly. I see those players for 3.5 hours each Saturday. Kelly and BVG for probably 40 hours plus. But we did just live through the Golson/Zaire issue from last year. Coaches can make mistakes in judgement in personnel through loyalty, rose-colored glasses, compassion, desperation, fear of making a mistake, etc. Kelly makes far fewer than our more recent coaching hires and thank God for that.

if ND doesnt get hosed @ FSU they would have been 8-0 last yr w Golson managing the offense . ND lost last yr because they ended up playing with the scout team on defense , Kelly had a pretty good run with Golson at QB 20-0 in regular season before the injuries . I just wish Golson had stayed so that the QB spacing would be intact heading into next yr . I see a potential cluster f taking place next yr at QB -- hope Kelly can manage it

 

[kellys heroes 35]

These threads become pissing contests by a bunch of "keyboard no-it-alls". No offense to anybody, but the fact is, if ND had a better option than JS, then that better option would be playing. All the BS and so-called expertise on this board won't change that

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KId is the QB of the defense -- those who have never played the game at this level don't understand the things schmidt does that don't show up on the stat sheet . If he was a liability he would be wearing a baseball cap not a helmet . Van Gorder and Kelly know the kid is an asset on the filed or he wouldn't be playing .

 

[DieHard_Irish]

^no worries, he can and will manage it. Transfer reflect competition, and in the end demonstrates our level of talent

 

[FightingIrish44]

Yes, a level of play you know nothing about. Oh, I'm sorry, you're right, I forgot, you put in the work. Credentials please?

You don't need to have ANY coaching experience to be able to evaluate. If one spends a decent amount of time learning the game from coaches, clinics, message boards, blogs, books, then they can become very knowledgeable. You certainly don't need any coaching experience to just have an opinion.

Whether one has only two years as a high school volunteer coach, or is an NFL coach, the game is still relatively uncomplicated. What makes someone an NFL or D1 coach is not simply that they know the game so much, its that they can get the most from their players (and they know someone or had a way of breaking into the higher levels). So what one's level of coaching experience really isn't relevent.

There are plenty of FBS coaches who get destroyed defending the Navy and Georgia Tech offenses. They try to defend it in a really unsound way. How can that be? They're the big dogs in the game. Its simple. They didn't put in the work to understand it or weren't able to come up with a way to defend it. Yet you have high school guys who know how to defend it.

I hope I'm getting my point across. You don't need any credentials to be able to point out an issue if you actually understand it.

 

[FightingIrish44]

you're nuts. I've been watching nd football for my entire life. don't think I ever saw a less effective linebacker than calabrese. I'd take Schmidt any day over those two. I will give credit to fox being pretty good in coverage. awful at the point of attack.

I don't expect us to agree. My thoughts come from evaluating everyone of their games from a coaches perspective. Did you evaluate it at all (as I know you coaches), or is that your opinion from just watching the game live? I'm not trying to puff out my chest here or be a jerk.

Even as a redshirt freshman, I thought Calabrese was a good player. I always hated the criticism they got. I feel like people looked at Calabrese's body type, and relative lack of athleticism, and just made up their mind that he wasn't good in pass coverage.

Try watching the 2010 ND/Boston College game and tell me he isn't a good LB (I know one game doesn't make a career.

 

[echowaker]

You don't need to have ANY coaching experience to be able to evaluate. If one spends a decent amount of time learning the game from coaches, clinics, message boards, blogs, books, then they can become very knowledgeable. You certainly don't need any coaching experience to just have an opinion.

Whether one has only two years as a high school volunteer coach, or is an NFL coach, the game is still relatively uncomplicated. What makes someone an NFL or D1 coach is not simply that they know the game so much, its that they can get the most from their players (and they know someone or had a way of breaking into the higher levels). So what one's level of coaching experience really isn't relevent.

There are plenty of FBS coaches who get destroyed defending the Navy and Georgia Tech offenses. They try to defend it in a really unsound way. How can that be? They're the big dogs in the game. Its simple. They didn't put in the work to understand it or weren't able to come up with a way to defend it. Yet you have high school guys who know how to defend it.

I hope I'm getting my point across. You don't need any credentials to be able to point out an issue if you actually understand it.

agreed. unfortunately there are some here based on their posts that clearly don't understand the game and its nuances.

 

[88ND]

I can't buy into your 1 play example 88. Show me a breakdown of each play ND has given up that was a 10+ yd run or a completion over the middle of the field inside of 15 yards and then we are talking about some good data.

Look, Joe is starting which means when the coaches evaluate him on performance, missed tackles, missed assignments, etc. and weigh that against the possible productivity of the next man in, so they clearly still lean to Joe

Personally, I'd rather see what Grace or Morgan can do to compare to Joe's production.

Stop! Comprehension here bud. Hey some. Jaylon is an amazing talent. I've stated such countless times. I gave you one example because I don't have the time to list all of them as there are in fact numerous. Many upon many.
They all come when he is playing in the box.

I will say this.....Jaylon is a freak of a talent.
But if you think he plays the inside backer position good then you have ZERO idea how that position is to be played.

I'm not an internet commando....or a keyboard something or other.

And trust me ..I wish Jaylon played it right.

Now you will spin this by only reading half of it and saying you are dumb because Jaylon is good.
Yep....already noted that.
Inside backer he is not. Outside backer he is a dream.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

You don't need to have ANY coaching experience to be able to evaluate. If one spends a decent amount of time learning the game from coaches, clinics, message boards, blogs, books, then they can become very knowledgeable. You certainly don't need any coaching experience to just have an opinion.

Whether one has only two years as a high school volunteer coach, or is an NFL coach, the game is still relatively uncomplicated. What makes someone an NFL or D1 coach is not simply that they know the game so much, its that they can get the most from their players (and they know someone or had a way of breaking into the higher levels). So what one's level of coaching experience really isn't relevent.

There are plenty of FBS coaches who get destroyed defending the Navy and Georgia Tech offenses. They try to defend it in a really unsound way. How can that be? They're the big dogs in the game. Its simple. They didn't put in the work to understand it or weren't able to come up with a way to defend it. Yet you have high school guys who know how to defend it.

I hope I'm getting my point across. You don't need any credentials to be able to point out an issue if you actually understand it.

Ah, wrong. Evaluating talent and team chemistry is also integral to coaching. Kelly and company know a helluva lot more about who should play then we do. They to watch the film to, and know a helluva lot more about that film then anyone here. All this so called evaluation of JS is message board BS by people who don't have a clue about him. All I know is Kelly has said on numerous occasions that JS gives us the best chance to win and is simply better at this point than the alternative. That's enough for me, and it's his opinion that counts for me.

 

[echowaker]

I don't expect us to agree. My thoughts come from evaluating everyone of their games from a coaches perspective. Did you evaluate it at all (as I know you coaches), or is that your opinion from just watching the game live? I'm not trying to puff out my chest here or be a jerk.

Even as a redshirt freshman, I thought Calabrese was a good player. I always hated the criticism they got. I feel like people looked at Calabrese's body type, and relative lack of athleticism, and just made up their mind that he wasn't good in pass coverage.

Try watching the 2010 ND/Boston College game and tell me he isn't a good LB (I know one game doesn't make a career.

I'm talking about his body of work. he didn't bring anything to the position. bad angles, slow to the ball and an outright liability in coverage. stout for sure but you've got to be way more than that to be successful at this level. I think he got the most out of his limited physical skills. just not nearly good enough. unfortunately for nd the best they had at the time.

 

[HRC08]

you're nuts. I've been watching nd football for my entire life. don't think I ever saw a less effective linebacker than calabrese. I'd take Schmidt any day over those two. I will give credit to fox being pretty good in coverage. awful at the point of attack.

We'll disagree then. Rematch the Clemson game if you need, Schmidt costs ND multiple long runs in that game. Calebrese was a better run stropper and Fox was better in all facets of the game. Schmidt had a good 2014 but has been exposed this season. I can't recall one single big play he's made.

 

[FightingIrish44]

Ah, wrong. Evaluating talent and team chemistry is also integral to coaching. Kelly and company know a helluva lot more about who should play then we do. They to watch the film to, and know a helluva lot more about that film then anyone here. All this so called evaluation of JS is message board BS by people who don't have a clue about him. All I know is Kelly has said on numerous occasions that JS gives us the best chance to win and is simply better at this point than the alternative. That's enough for me, and it's his opinion that counts for me.

I haven't made any points saying that Schmidt shouldn't play. I'm in the same camp as you that the coaches would play someone else if the they thought it gave them the best chance.

All I'm saying is you don't need to be a D1 coach (or any coach) to evaluate a game and have an informed opinion. Asking someone for their coaching credentials for expressing their opinion isn't necessary.

 

[NDlb46]

Stop! Comprehension here bud. Hey some. Jaylon is an amazing talent. I've stated such countless times. I gave you one example because I don't have the time to list all of them as there are in fact numerous. Many upon many.
They all come when he is playing in the box.

I will say this.....Jaylon is a freak of a talent.
But if you think he plays the inside backer position good then you have ZERO idea how that position is to be played.

I'm not an internet commando....or a keyboard something or other.

And trust me ..I wish Jaylon played it right.

Now you will spin this by only reading half of it and saying you are dumb because Jaylon is good.
Yep....already noted that.
Inside backer he is not. Outside backer he is a dream.

Alright 88. I get your deal now, aside from you harping on the word "comprehension" when you clearly didn't read your last post out loud to yourself. You start your thread about Joe Schmidt asking for other people's opinions and thoughts. People begin to respond. Someone (me) comes in with a different opinion than you, which you clearly could not handle at all. Then you start attacking the other opinions and posters stating what is factual or not and making your comments to try to discredit anyone who has a different opinion. Yep...already noted that. You go ahead now and go on with your spiel buddy, because there are those that agree with your opinion/analysis. I do not agree with you, and I will not agree with you if how you responded to me is your M.O. If I want to be asked my thoughts on something only to get berated for stating it, then I'll just go to mother in law's house and start talking about politics. How 'bout them apples? Can you handle a different opinion? Peace out and feel free to put me on ignore so you don't have to worry about what other verbal diarrhea I might spew against you that you've already anticipated me saying.

 

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Alright 88. I get your deal now, aside from you harping on the word "comprehension" when you clearly didn't read your last post out loud to yourself. You start your thread about Joe Schmidt asking for other people's opinions and thoughts. People begin to respond. Someone (me) comes in with a different opinion than you, which you clearly could not handle at all. Then you start attacking the other opinions and posters stating what is factual or not and making your comments to try to discredit anyone who has a different opinion. Yep...already noted that. You go ahead now and go on with your spiel buddy, because there are those that agree with your opinion/analysis. I do not agree with you, and I will not agree with you if how you responded to me is your M.O. If I want to be asked my thoughts on something only to get berated for stating it, then I'll just go to mother in law's house and start talking about politics. How 'bout them apples? Can you handle a different opinion? Peace out and feel free to put me on ignore so you don't have to worry about what other verbal diarrhea I might spew against you that you've already anticipated me saying.

Yet again it flies right over your head.
You imply to me that I suggested Jaylon is a bad player. I've never one time said Jaylon was some negative thing. He is a superb talent. But his play in the box is weak. Yes he can chase anything down ...which already has been noted. But inside that box the play is head on and straight forward....to play it right that is. He allows people to engage him 3 yards down field. I mean no malice in saying to you that if you understood how that position was to be played properly, you would clearly see Wtf I'm talking about.

Moreover you do everything but avoid the point I made specifically to you. People want to harp on Joe Schmidt when our other inside backer who has unmatched physical ability is very poor inside the box.
Jaylon is very exciting to watch. I wish BVG would turn him loose more to get after the qb because his closing speed is amazing. It would give tackles fits. Way too fast for the tackles and too big to ask a running back to block.

This post was about Joe and although he has his share of broken tackles he plays his position pretty much spot on.

 

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