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Joe Schmidt..??

I haven't made any points saying that Schmidt shouldn't play. I'm in the same camp as you that the coaches would play someone else if the they thought it gave them the best chance.

All I'm saying is you don't need to be a D1 coach (or any coach) to evaluate a game and have an informed opinion. Asking someone for their coaching credentials for expressing their opinion isn't necessary.
Fair enough 44, Go Irish!
 
Middle linebacker and team captain Joe Schmidt still has the full confidence of Kelly and his staff. "Joe has been a cleanup hitter for us. We don't want to take him out of the lineup," Kelly said. The sixth-year head coach added that sophomore middle linebacker Nyles Morgan has played very well in limited time and has been very patient behind Schmidt.

bk the genius. Clean up hitter? I was thinking "utility player". Thats the key bk "limited" as in we will continue to play Joe despite his lack of speed, lack of tackling ability, lack of getting off blocks, but hey he knows the defense so we will keep him in there.
 
every comment has been about the level of play. This topic has been almost universal accross forums.

^ hip shooter alert ^
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You're right. EVERY comment on topic.
The shit you post would be funny, except that laughing at feeble,
senile dudes isn't funny. It's sad.
 
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^yeah keep pushing this stupid narrative. Your such a child. BK and the coaches know more than you, and they are complimentary and confident in Joe, and they see all of them everyday and on Saturday. I'm confident they put in the work, and look at the vid to.
 
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I'm not saying shouldn't be starting but the guy plays about every snap. Why not continue to work Nyles in on more snaps. The speed between these players is night and day. Speed doesn't solve everything but it can't be taught. Game experience is imperative for growth and motivation for these young guys.
 
On Power Hour Mike Frank and the other host said they have no idea why Joe S. is our starting Middle linebacker. They basically said that there is absolutely no production from Joe and they couldn't do any worse, They said either Jarrett Grace or Greer Martini should replace him or at least get to take some of Joes snaps.
 
On Power Hour Mike Frank and the other host said they have no idea why Joe S. is our starting Middle linebacker. They basically said that there is absolutely no production from Joe and they couldn't do any worse, They said either Jarrett Grace or Greer Martini should replace him or at least get to take some of Joes snaps.
He had 2 tackles against Temple. Thats awesome from an inside LB who plays the entire game. Oh thats right according to the two "geniuses" we have here on this thread, he's taken on blocks and covering all his assignments. He is not supposed to make tackles....lmao
 
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He had 2 tackles against Temple. Thats awesome from an inside LB who plays the entire game. Oh thats right according to the two "geniuses" we have here on this thread, he's taken on blocks and covering all his assignments. He is not supposed to make tackles....lmao
statistics rarely tell the whole story. if you understood the framework of vangorders defense you wouldn't make asinine opinions.
 
I am assuming that the staff watches film of each player, grades the players every single game, watch the players at all the practices and grades the practices, and meet with the players in their position meetings. Maybe Joe S is grading out better than anyone below him on the depth chart. I'm just saying.
 
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? better than the guys that are 'on the bench'? One has to wonder what the status of Grace is. He was the probable starter before JS and barring injury JS would have not gotten on the field and would likel never have been the title of a thread.
Morgan was the personal recruiting project of Kelly.

Aside from Jaylon, this must be a weak LB group; a starter is best described as: small, slow, unathletic, coming off major injury and is not particularly physical; and yet no one can beat him out!
Ponder that!
 
? better than the guys that are 'on the bench'? One has to wonder what the status of Grace is. He was the probable starter before JS and barring injury JS would have not gotten on the field and would likel never have been the title of a thread.
Morgan was the personal recruiting project of Kelly.-- ahh now we get it Kelly recruited a stiff in Morgan -- -- just a negative prick . Your dog hates you
 
ah,,,, your bad genetics are showing; shove it, something you should be familiar with!
you can try to control the 'sidelines', but you will not 'control' the forum!

btw: are you repeating the kind of language you are accustomed to hearing? such vulgarity.

I feel so sorry for you.
 
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The discussion/argument is not whether or not JS will play on Sunday's, or whether he's an AA, or anything like that; it's whether he gives us the best chance to win on Saturdays, and whether the coaches know better than the posters on this board. My contention is the coaches know more than the collective nit wits on this board. They "put in the work' and "watch the vids" as a staff. They are with all the players, all week, everyday at practice. I trust they know a lot more than anybody on this board. They get and retain there lucrative positions by winning football games, they seek a national title. They collectively evaluate game film, game grades, practice output etc. and the best players, that is to say the players that give us the best chance to win are the ones that play. You are delusional if think otherwise.
 
On Power Hour Mike Frank and the other host said they have no idea why Joe S. is our starting Middle linebacker. They basically said that there is absolutely no production from Joe and they couldn't do any worse, They said either Jarrett Grace or Greer Martini should replace him or at least get to take some of Joes snaps.


I was at the game on Saturday so I got to watch him a lot pre snaps . He is constantly moving guys around and communicating to the DL . He is clearly the QB of the defense .

ND is 15-2 with him as our Starting MLB
1-5 w morgan as our starting MLB

This constant attack re JS on this board by head nit wit pURSE is all one has to know as to as to why most knowledgeable posters on this board at least dislike him and others like myself have utter disdain for his obsessive negativity directed at ND Football . Purse you are a characterless swine

And you don't speak truth - that is delusional on your part -- you speak negative rabble which is why I despise you !!
 
Team had two turnovers inside the 10 yd line keeping Temple in the game and nit wits are bitching about JS - pathetic . When ND starts giving up 35 pts then you can circle the wagons

VS Clemson and USC ND surrendered 17 pts TOTAL in the second half

Last yr sans Schmidt our defense collapsed

W-O Sanders fumble ND pitches a shutout vs Clemson in the second half -- you people are NUTS !!!

BTW Dick Butkus ran a 5.8 forty --and no I am not comparing JS to Butkus just trying to add some perspective to this pathetic thread .

I am a lot more concerned w our secondary making plays than I am JS by A LOT !!
 
Team had two turnovers inside the 10 yd line keeping Temple in the game and nit wits are bitching about JS - pathetic . When ND starts giving up 35 pts then you can circle the wagons

VS Clemson and USC ND surrendered 17 pts TOTAL in the second half

Last yr sans Schmidt our defense collapsed

W-O Sanders fumble ND pitches a shutout vs Clemson in the second half -- you people are NUTS !!!

BTW Dick Butkus ran a 5.8 forty --and no I am not comparing JS to Butkus just trying to add some perspective to this pathetic thread .

I am a lot more concerned w our secondary making plays than I am JS by A LOT !!
THIS!!!!
 
While I agree that Joe makes almost all the line calls, he does seem a step slower this year. I still think he's important to the defense because he constantly is getting the other players into their correct position. I guess you have to trust the coaches know more than any of us do and I certainly don't want to see any of our players fail like any poster on this board.

My one concern in the Temple game was on their last drive. I do not do film study and didn't go back to look at the play again but I swear I saw him continue to go back into coverage when their QB was running and was clearly already over the line. He looked to be running backwards still covering the receiver as the QB was running towards him. It reminded me of my 7th grader who would sometimes be playing defense when her basketball team was on offense. Maybe I saw it wrong but if anyone still has it on DVR, take a look at Temple's last drive when their QB scrambled for a first down.
 
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espn has it among there 'reply' library for those that want to review it. But information is not favored in an argument where the conclusion is pre determined.
 
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espn has it among there 'reply' library for those that want to review it. But information is favored in an srgument where the conclusion is pre determined.

I always forget that I can replay past ABC/ESPN games.......not sure why since I watch most of my ND basketball games using their app
 
While I agree that Joe makes almost all the line calls, he does seem a step slower this year. I still think he's important to the defense because he constantly is getting the other players into their correct position. I guess you have to trust the coaches know more than any of us do and I certainly don't want to see any of our players fail like any poster on this board.

My one concern in the Temple game was on their last drive. I do not do film study and didn't go back to look at the play again but I swear I saw him continue to go back into coverage when their QB was running and was clearly already over the line. He looked to be running backwards still covering the receiver as the QB was running towards him. It reminded me of my 7th grader who would sometimes be playing defense when her basketball team was on offense. Maybe I saw it wrong but if anyone still has it on DVR, take a look at Temple's last drive when their QB scrambled for a first down.

I'm fairly sure he had his eyes on the receiver behind him. He didn't see the QB scrambling. Should he have had his head around at that point? Possibly, but its tough to say because of the lousy camera work.
 
I'm fairly sure he had his eyes on the receiver behind him. He didn't see the QB scrambling. Should he have had his head around at that point? Possibly, but its tough to say because of the lousy camera work.

Yeah, I would have to look at it again to be sure because like you said, the camera was kind of pulling out of the play. It just looked really odd in live action to me.
 
Again, I don't think the discussion/argument is that JS is an NFL prospect or AA, or doesn't make mistakes. It is really, who gives us the best chance to win and therefore who should play. I trust our coaches know more than any of us. If NM or TC favor us a better chance to win, they'd be in there. And any argument that anyone on this board knows more is just plain stupid.
 
do you have the time or sequence of that play you refer to?

I would review it, but I found if I focused on JS's play I was missing the 'action'.
 
1:03:20 of the second half youtube video.

Just as Schmidt comes back into the camera shot, it looks like his head may be facing the line of scrimmage, but its difficult to tell. He's definitely worried about the receiver.

I don't at all believe that he just ran away from the QB. It looked odd, but he was worried about the receiver.
 
Again, I don't think the discussion/argument is that JS is an NFL prospect or AA, or doesn't make mistakes. It is really, who gives us the best chance to win and therefore who should play. I trust our coaches know more than any of us. If NM or TC favor us a better chance to win, they'd be in there. And any argument that anyone on this board knows more is just plain stupid.

Which is what I said a couple of posts ago so you're beating a dead horse. Joe is the one who understands the defense the best which is why he is playing and making the defensive calls. Saying he seems a step slow is my observation from his play this year but I also want to see him and all the defensive players get better each week. We'll need him against a good Pitt team.
 
1:03:20 of the second half youtube video.

Just as Schmidt comes back into the camera shot, it looks like his head may be facing the line of scrimmage, but its difficult to tell. He's definitely worried about the receiver.

I don't at all believe that he just ran away from the QB. It looked odd, but he was worried about the receiver.

Thanks for finding it........It is hard to tell..........now on to Pitt............
 
Again, I don't think the discussion/argument is that JS is an NFL prospect or AA, or doesn't make mistakes. It is really, who gives us the best chance to win and therefore who should play. I trust our coaches know more than any of us. If NM or TC favor us a better chance to win, they'd be in there. And any argument that anyone on this board knows more is just plain stupid.

I like this statement. IMO, it's the coaches job to put the best players in the best position to win. This is why I give coaches all the credit when we win and the blame when we lose.

A lot of us (myself included) can't understand why they keep starting Schmidt but we don't see/know everything that goes into that decision. If it's the correct decision or the wrong decision the results on the field will show it. This is why I never accept excuses about mistakes by players costing us games. Either you haven't coached them well enough or you have the wrong guy out there, either way coaches are 100% responsible for winning and losing.
 
I remember, back in the old days now I guess, when there was rule on this board about not singling out players for criticism during the season. Coaches were always fair game, but the players weren't. It was pretty well respected by board regulars, and it was one of the few that was actually enforced when it wasn't.

I don't mind change, but the continual calling out and trashing of individual players by some posters is not a positive change in my book.
 
Schmidt over Calabrese is not saying very much. Schmidt does not shed blocks well and gets to the perimeter late and does not cause turnovers . I have coached the LB position and one of my players is a current starter in the NFL . We talk all the time .One of the main reasons he is on the field is because of his work ethic and ability to read his keys and see the play before it's going to develop. That is Schmidt's strengths but Schmidt is not playing at the same level before his injury. He has a heart of a lion but has been a liability to this defense. IMO there have been 4Players that have underachieved on the defense. Schmidt, Okowa( never had high hopes) Redfield and Onuwalu. That is not a good thing to have . Benching Schmidt is not the answer now. But he needs to pick up his game IF he can.
 
if I was Carlo, I would be pissed at the comparison! Carlo was a brawler.

Joe tries with all he is and all he has; it is more a matter of physical limitations and talent.
He has the world of "want to"!
 
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I remember, back in the old days now I guess, when there was rule on this board about not singling out players for criticism during the season. Coaches were always fair game, but the players weren't. It was pretty well respected by board regulars, and it was one of the few that was actually enforced when it wasn't.

I don't mind change, but the continual calling out and trashing of individual players by some posters is not a positive change in my book.
Exactly!
 
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