How much will being a 5th seed at best
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It won't hurt them at all. They know going in that the 5th seed is the best they can achieve. They willingly agreed to the terms. Non issue.
It shouldn't hurt us too badly. The first game would be against the 12th seed, likely a G5 team. The 2nd game would be against the 4th seed (the worst P4 conference champ). The semifinal would be very tough, likely against the #1 (although could be against #8 or #9, too). But once you get to the semifinals, all the games are very tough, anyways.
Beat everyone or you don’t deserve to win it anyways.
If ND can't win a home playoff game in cold December with 2 weeks to prepare against anyone for that matter, then they have no business being in the playoffs.
ND will have more time to prepare for a first round game than the conference teams that need to prepare for a conference championship game. It doesn't seem to be much of an advantage either way.
I’m ok…it’s our price for independence
Get a home game and then travel well to quarters
They won’t know who they are playing until a week before. So the more time to prepare is really rest
Have to think the odds of ND winning a national championship are significantly less with the playoff expansion. Sure, much more likely to make a playoff but win 4 consecutive games against Top 12 opponents? Yikes. We’re lucky if we have 4 wins against Top 12 teams combined in the last 10 years.
So you believe that a first round bye is of no value ?
Evidently you also believe that there’s no advantage to being ranked 1, 2, 3 or 4 where in the second round you get to play a worse ranked team,…………… that being able to play the weakest teams in the second round has no advantage ?
That’s a foolish position, one that defies common sense
When you have to play a 13th game to get there, it all equals out.
Notre Dame does not play a game 13.
I love the current deal.
It doesn’t help NDs odds to win a natty, the BCS and 4 team were much more favorable
Absolutely NOT
First, you have to get in it to win it.
4 slots is exponentially harder to qualify for than 12 slots
How can it hurt them if it's not possible for them to be any higher than 5 ? You presented a FOOLISH question when one considers that ND played a prominent role in the structuring of the new 12 team format for the CFP.
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Historically, ND could get in with a watered down schedule going 12-0 or 11-1 then need to win just 1 or two games. The chances of ND A/making playoff - will likely need to be 12-0 or 11-1 with automatic bids and B/winning 4 straight games against Top 12 talent is MUCH lower than previous. It’s simple math
ND keeps its independence; and its traditional audience and everything else. Which was very important.
As regards the over sized playoffs, not having to play a conference game is pretty much the same as getting a first rd buy in that you play one less game then many of the others. So that balances out.
And if you have the talent and all that is required to win a NC, then as long as everyone is playing by the same rules only a real idiot should complain.
Bottom line is if we have the team and the coaching to win it all, we have just as good a shot as the top seeds.
As regards the over sized playoffs, not having to play a conference game is pretty much the same as getting a first rd buy in that you play one less game then many of the others. So that balances out.
And if you have the talent and all that is required to win a NC, then as long as everyone is playing by the same rules only a real idiot should complain.
Bottom line is if we have the team and the coaching to win it all, we have just as good a shot as the top seeds.
Well stated.
I do not agree with your last paragraph. IMO, as far as 2024 is concerned, ND is not on equal footing with the very top seeds. Not yet, anyways.
The teams seeded from 1-4 would've had to win a conference championship game first, so their total number postseason games would also be four.
The worst-off teams would probably be the runners-up in the SEC and B1G, which would have to win 4 playoff games, after losing their CCG. So they'd have 5 postseason games, if they made the final.
Right, and with this year's schedule it really wouldn't be possible for ND to finish in the top four. At the end of the season, it's entirely possible that ND will have played no top ten teams and only one top 25 team. It's easily the weakest Irish schedule in the past 50 years.
Notre Dame has been undefeated in the regular season three times in the last 12 seasons.
Top 4 each time.
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Not surprisingly, you didn’t understand the question ……… OR you understood the question and just provided a foolish, ill thought out answer.
Maybe if we're lucky this thread can become as ridiculous as your famous " pylon placement " thread. That was a hoot. Now to be fair the question you posed in this thread is nowhere near the level of absurdity that the pylon thread was. This one is just inane.
Yep, committee usually struggled with getting the Irish in the Top 4 in down schedule years but ND was never left out. The playoff expansion increases their odds when the team isn’t a top team in the country as this gives them at least a chance. But in years like 2012, 2018, 2020, their odds are significantly lower. Going to have to win 2-3 straight games against Top 12 teams just to get to the drubbings Clemson and Bama laid down.
When you don’t possess the intellect to comprehend the question and its implications and ramifications. I guess you have to resort to deflecting and diverting the conversation to other subjects.
I simply disagree with you. Plain and simple.
Not having to play a 13th game and maintaining Football independence, not answering to anyone, makes this well worth it.
Kudos to Swarbick.
Agree, but we’d have to play an additional game that a lesser ranked team wouldn’t have to play, putting us at a significant disadvantage
So what. Other teams have to play conference championship games.
Notre Dame doesn’t.
