Given how badly our defense was playing,
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Absolutely. Kelly is a guy who plays the safe percentages -- especially when they really aren't the safe percentages.
It was stupid to punt. You have 2 things; 1) one of the worst defenses in CFB 2) One of the best QBs in CFB and the decision is to put the game in the hands of the defense?!?!?
Kelly was going for the muffed punt play since it works so often. It was on his chart!
Well, you figure one of these games the defense will be able to make a key stop or create a turnover without a blown coverage, missed tackle, or slip. Even if BK goes for it on 4th down, who knows what play he would have called or what play DK would have called at the LOS. The OL was abused all night except for their pass blocking in the 4th Quarter. There is so much going on here that any decision could have been right or wrong. Let's not forget that his decision to punt was all predicated by a game long under performing OL and a season long failure on defense. A reporter asked BK in his post game if it's getting to the point that DK is going to have to win games and BK had the audacity to get angry at the question like we all live in a cave and didn't see the Stanford, Texas, or MSU games. I don't trust this staff.
I would have punted------had 3 TO's.
If you don't make it the game is over as they'll kick a FG and it's now 11.
Had them 3rd and 7 and Luke drifts to the Hash and just leaves a guy wide ass open.
Awful-----that's a 3 year starter who IMO played the worst game Saturday night I ever saw a DB play here which is hard to fathom as he's been a pretty good player for us.
If you don't make it the game is over as they'll kick a FG and it's now 11.
Had them 3rd and 7 and Luke drifts to the Hash and just leaves a guy wide ass open.
Awful-----that's a 3 year starter who IMO played the worst game Saturday night I ever saw a DB play here which is hard to fathom as he's been a pretty good player for us.
I would have gone for it, given how poor our defense is. That said, the reality is his hand was forced when DK took the sack, and except for the blown coverage, we did get them to a third and long, and our most seasoned corner blew his coverage. Tough to really blame the coach there.
Now, earlier in the game DK stretched out and came up less than a yard short of the first down, on that series I definitely would have gone for it then.
Now, earlier in the game DK stretched out and came up less than a yard short of the first down, on that series I definitely would have gone for it then.
Hindsight is 20-20, but I agree with the notion that when it was third and two, we should have run the ball -- twice if necessary to pick up two yards.
Dear Lord, It's not about rolling the dice. It's situational football and our moron pissed away a chance to stay in the hunt because, as is typical with him, he has no feel for the game...none....
"4 downs the rest of the way"
cgvr,Saturday at 10:56 PM
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TD, yes it was, but early in the game and less than an yard to go. MSU did it early on at their own 44. I just would have like to have seen us suck it up and play to win the game. I thought punting was a mistake there, I would have gone for it.
It's easy to say you would have gone for it, when ND couldn't get a stop and ultimately lost the game. There's plenty of blame to go around here guys. In regard to that particular situation, I didn't have a problem with Kelly punting, but he's an idiot for taking a timeout and then deciding to punt. Lastly, ND defense was in good position to get a stop at 3rd and 6, but Luke(the most experienced DB on his roster) totally forgot how to play zone and cover his man.
Kelly made the right choice. 4 and 7 is really tough in that situation.
He got State into a 3rd and 7. ND should've gotten the ball back w a couple of minutes. 3rd and 7.......the D let us down, and couldn't hold.
BK made the right choice.
He got State into a 3rd and 7. ND should've gotten the ball back w a couple of minutes. 3rd and 7.......the D let us down, and couldn't hold.
BK made the right choice.
The D play poorly indeed in the first half, as did the O.
When ND was making its comeback the D shut down MSU 4 straight series.
Posting that I do understand the concern, but i believe coach Kelly's thing was they had one more good stand in them..........that is the only conclusion I could think of why it ended the way it did
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Could be worse. Our coach down 17 with nine minutes to go on Stanford's 43 punts on fourth down. Not kidding.
Much happier when we were competing over who wins the most rather than who loses the most.
With the athletes at SC, all it takes is the right coach at the right time to turn things around quickly, but hands off Tom Herman. A few of our Irish faithful has him designated as our next HC even though we already have a HC who isn't going anywhere.
First off, it was third and 2. It also was 4 down territory under the circumstances.... plus, the D was on the field for 37 minutes for the game. That is not a typo... the proof is in the pudding and what happened shot us out of the playoff hunt....gotta get to 4-2....
Mr Potato head sucks and I believe he has now joined Faust as the only ND HC to open 1-2 3 times. His suckitude knows no bounds....
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Do you think Houston boosters have the cabbage to match any offer from SC? I do. I have a feeling with all that money, what Herman wants, Herman gets at Houston.
This reminded me of the time CW let the other team score so he could get the ball back for his O. His D was awful (a condemnation of the coaching and not the players) so he had to rely on O.
Same thing here, D was poor and while they had some stops in the second half I had the feeling they wouldn't hold (like Stanford last year).
I would have gone for it.
Same thing here, D was poor and while they had some stops in the second half I had the feeling they wouldn't hold (like Stanford last year).
I would have gone for it.
Agree---gotta get to 4-2. Then if we beat Stanford and are 5-2......how many people on this board would've taken a 5-2 start? Probably most....
Nope. 6-0.... then the season starts...Porky stinks.... never should have lost to Tx....or msu...out coached both games...he's dumb...
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They picked on him all game. They obviously seen something in film. Several big plays right at him.
I say again Cole Luke has regressed ...but everyone else has too.
