looking to next week , I'm not sure what to think. GT is averaging 67 points in its first two games. What can you say about that? That's scary for any opponent. This Irish offense is significantly different from what is was supposed to look like. The depth that was an asset is now depleted. People can spin the situation anyway they want. It's not good. Regardless of how good these young players may be, they still have little experience. GT will be extremely difficult to beat. I will be surprised if ND is favored. ND has fits trying to stop Navy. Now they play against the same exact offense with way better athletes. Starting with the yellow jackets and the teams ahead, this could be another 5 loss season. The offensive line was horrible in short yardage yesterday. There is no excuse for that. if the Irish want to be contenders the offensive line has to dominate. They did at times. But when it was needed the most on third down they went 0 for 10. At this point I don't see how they can beat Georgia Tech. I know I sound negative but I just don't see how you can lose that many starters and stay relevant.
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GT played nobody, but their ball controlled offense will limit NDs ball opportunities. If there are many three and outs for the Irish it could be ugly.
ND needs to control the ball especially with a new QB at the helm
Notre Dame is better coaches has better talent should win this game. Even with the loss of MZ and the inexperience at QB Notre Dame should control the LOS and move and score effectively . The key will be if they swarm defensively and slow GT's offense. This will spell out victory or defeat.
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ND has to score TD's when they have the ball, FG's will not be enough. This game will be like a tennis match, the first team to break service wins.
Johnson wants to scalp off BVG's porn goatee and hang it on his wall ....... based on last year and this year's sample of our D - he will might own it by halftime.
GA Tech got two easy last 2 games. GA Tech have been runs different rush position. ND will put more players on front. GA Tech not pass most for last 2 games. CJ can help more to get the goal.
I agree. We did control the ball for 39 minutes in game 1; but only 26 minutes in game 2.. Georgia Tech has owned the ball 33/34 minutes per game this year.
If we're gonna pass, we need to be efficient.
- 2 undefeated regular seasons in the last 7 yrs -
- 2 coach of the year awards only coach to have have won 2 in last 7 yrs
- 3 BCS Bowl appearances in last 8 yrs
Has a Johnson ever coached a team that has gone undefeated in a regular season ?
Has Johnson ever been college coach of the year ?
Has Johnson ever taken a team to a BCS bowl ?
Hey purse you ****in jerk off there are your answers you waste of humanity
Your stupid - your toxic - and you are the quintessential piece of shit !!
Paul Johnson won a New Years 6 bowl and he did take GT to the orange bowl (BCS) in 2009. He had also been ACC coach of the year 3 times and has won at GT more than any recent coach.
He built GA Southern football back in the day to two national championships in FCS. And yes he wants to destroy Van Gorder because Van Gorder tore down what Paul Johnson built at Southern and referred in a negative fashion to his offense. PJ cannot stand Van Gorder. He beat the brakes off Van Gorders defense a few years later. PJ is known for holding grudges and he most definitely has one against Van Gorder. He also has a penchant for exacting as much revenge as he can on the field against those he holds a grudge.
Brian Kelly is a fine coach but he has several advantages in recruiting that a GT coach does not have. Down here in Atlanta amidst all of the SEC programs many media members and fans hold that PJ is the only real coach that wins with less.
Just want to give you a little about coach Johnson before you totally discount him.
He built GA Southern football back in the day to two national championships in FCS. And yes he wants to destroy Van Gorder because Van Gorder tore down what Paul Johnson built at Southern and referred in a negative fashion to his offense. PJ cannot stand Van Gorder. He beat the brakes off Van Gorders defense a few years later. PJ is known for holding grudges and he most definitely has one against Van Gorder. He also has a penchant for exacting as much revenge as he can on the field against those he holds a grudge.
Brian Kelly is a fine coach but he has several advantages in recruiting that a GT coach does not have. Down here in Atlanta amidst all of the SEC programs many media members and fans hold that PJ is the only real coach that wins with less.
Just want to give you a little about coach Johnson before you totally discount him.
^ PJ has gotten frequent high praise on this board; even has a small fan base!
And yep, he does have a searing professional rivalry with BVG.
And yep, he does have a searing professional rivalry with BVG.
one thing certain: both teams will be facing bigger faster far more talented teams than they have to date!
The speed of both teams might initially catch the other off guard!
ND needs to be no worse than 4-2 going to the USC game.
The speed of both teams might initially catch the other off guard!
ND needs to be no worse than 4-2 going to the USC game.
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While true, their offensive production has not shown any decrease from where they left off last year. Cupcakes or not they handled their business in great fashion while other teams did not. See auburn and Arkansas. A good team does what they are supposed to against inferior talent. Right UVA?
I watched replays of most of Ga Tech's games from last year. Their offense was dominant in pretty much every game and serviceable in all minus Duke maybe (I didn't watch the Georgia game yet). I agree that good offenses and teams dominate their lesser opponents. I don't care who they played. Two 60+ point performances is really good, especially when you take last year into account.
With the Option it's all about the "ebb and flow" and these team defiantly provide GT to develop the continuity spring and fall practice didn't give you the time for.
You left off the fact that Johnson won a "BCS" bowl last year and Kelly hasn't come close yet. Do you watch msnbc too?
I just watched Tyrod Taylor decimate the Colts with short passes. Given a week, I believe Kelly will have the offensive plan that can beat Georgia Tech. I'd be shocked if Kizer doesn't have a good game. My fear is that 30 points won't be enough to get ND a win.
How could some ND fans be so ignorant? Georgia Tech won the Orange Bowl last season against an SEC team that was ranked #1in the nation during the regular season. I'm sure ND fans would be ecstatic if that happened to this program.
Boasting about coach of the year awards is beyond ridiculous when it's a completely subjective award. What I do see is constant 8-4 records from the most idiotic coach on earth.
Boasting about coach of the year awards is beyond ridiculous when it's a completely subjective award. What I do see is constant 8-4 records from the most idiotic coach on earth.
Undefeated regular seasons mean squat....
After the Giants knocked off the Pats Seau simply stated, "We didn't accomplish anything...."
Also, your 3 BCS Bowl appearances is hogwash.
He bolted on his 2009 team and made no such appearance.... (Jeff Quinn coached that game).
Willingham and Weis also won coach of the year awards.... talk about a worthless award...
PS Bragging about anything less than national championships is as senseless as going for 2 under yesterday's circumstances......
ND will need key turnovers and a VERY efficient offense to beat GT. This is possible (watch Duke/GT last year), however if GT QB has a solid game then I like GT's chances.
No doubt your new QB has incredible arm but the lack of QB rushing may hurt against GT's defense.
As far as PJ having a "special" grudge against BVG.....it will not matter. PJ does not like Cutcliff however we still lost last year.
If PJ gets the chance to pour it on that will happen but it will not be b/c of BVG. Those 40 years of beating Navy probably irritated PJ as much as BVG.
No doubt your new QB has incredible arm but the lack of QB rushing may hurt against GT's defense.
As far as PJ having a "special" grudge against BVG.....it will not matter. PJ does not like Cutcliff however we still lost last year.
If PJ gets the chance to pour it on that will happen but it will not be b/c of BVG. Those 40 years of beating Navy probably irritated PJ as much as BVG.
Sorry to get back to you so late continual but I was making pasta watch the Jags looooose again damn.
Any who the responses to counter your post by TaxJacket and TO basically sums up espcaily the part about GT in last years Orange Bowl. Obviously you didn't hear his take on the SEC directly after the game when they were handing him the trophy. That was bold talk but it shows you where he is trying to get GT too. What do you think he's going to pump his troops up about ND?
There is a history between these two Universities I could imagine the part of Rudy near the end couldn't make some of their fans happy.
I want the Irish to win this game but a dog fight it will be and from what I've seen from coach Kelly I would hope the LSU game plan comes into effect.
I know our boy florida will come in with some cute comment about how much a dumbass I am (thank you very much), but anyone whose seen the games leading up to the bowl game knows there was a difference in game preparation and execution.
If the Irish do not only control the ball, but the clock as well it could be a long day of coarse unless the Irish do something special against a tough opponent with a first time starting QB through the air while the Jackets are controlling the ball and clock on their possessions.
If ND had beaten Alcorn St. and Tulane everybody would be saying that it was expected and proves nothing..that's the way I feel about GT..it proves nothing..because they played nobody..ND is thier first "real" game..they've been living a lie...come Saturday,they're in for a dose of reality!
It's going to be tough. Johnson has continually brought in his gys and they're gelling and cruising on offense.
ND playing GT will not go up a level as far as athleticism is concerned as Texas is more athletic. GT will go up quite a few levels in athleticism playing ND.
Keizer starting the game is a big advantage for GT. Every chance we get we have to score TDs because you know they will control the game with their offense and give us fewer opportunities with the ball. If we can get a few breaks (fumbles, holding calls)), that will certainly help. It will probably come down to a few plays and I don't know if Kizer can deliver.
ND playing GT will not go up a level as far as athleticism is concerned as Texas is more athletic. GT will go up quite a few levels in athleticism playing ND.
Keizer starting the game is a big advantage for GT. Every chance we get we have to score TDs because you know they will control the game with their offense and give us fewer opportunities with the ball. If we can get a few breaks (fumbles, holding calls)), that will certainly help. It will probably come down to a few plays and I don't know if Kizer can deliver.
You guys do realize that GT returns every starter on defense except 1 and every guy on the OLine except one who was replaced with a redshirt junior who is pretty experienced himself and most importantly return arguably the best option QB in the country. Those same players are the same players who were part of beating UGA top 10, Clemson top 10, Miss ST who was considered as class of the SEC and took FSU to the ropes last year.
90% of GTs starting offense and defense have experience in greater talent level than ND. They haven't played anybody yet this year but experience doesn't just reset because the season ends. Make no mistake GT players have been making up for talent deficiencies since forever. GTs style of offense levels the talent field a little. It suits that program well.
90% of GTs starting offense and defense have experience in greater talent level than ND. They haven't played anybody yet this year but experience doesn't just reset because the season ends. Make no mistake GT players have been making up for talent deficiencies since forever. GTs style of offense levels the talent field a little. It suits that program well.
NDs defense has to show up. Again, this is like playing " Navy" basically, with way better athletes. Why people think GT will be easy or they are not that good is crazy. They are an excellent well coached football team. They will be very motivated and determined to win. The Irish need to be more determined and score TDs not field goals if they have any chance of winning. This will be one game where milking the clock while scoring TDs would be the ideal way to beat GT.
How many of those games were on the road? I know the Clemson was in Atlanta. If the game was in Atlanta, I think ND would lose double digits.
Tech is a good team but they don't throw at all...at least thus far. New quarterback, so being in South Bend is going to be a big advantage. Don't give up big Runs up the middle (and that's probably the strength of the Irish Defense) force them to run wide and use the sidelines
There Defense is going to pose the problem. Everybody loves to talk about the Flexbone but the secret to Ga Tech is their Defense is one of best, technically speaking, in the country. Don't expect to break a lot of tackles or run a lot of screens and misdirections on them. Run straight ahead and use the offensive lines physicality to your advantage.
no three and outs and do not turn the ball over. nothing will kill a team verses the bone than having to endure two 8 minute drives back to back. and don't expect them to punt on fourth down unless there inside their own 35.
last years team would have lost to this Ga tech team. But the Irish are bigger and more disciplined up front now. Will be a good game but I expect a positive outcome
There Defense is going to pose the problem. Everybody loves to talk about the Flexbone but the secret to Ga Tech is their Defense is one of best, technically speaking, in the country. Don't expect to break a lot of tackles or run a lot of screens and misdirections on them. Run straight ahead and use the offensive lines physicality to your advantage.
no three and outs and do not turn the ball over. nothing will kill a team verses the bone than having to endure two 8 minute drives back to back. and don't expect them to punt on fourth down unless there inside their own 35.
last years team would have lost to this Ga tech team. But the Irish are bigger and more disciplined up front now. Will be a good game but I expect a positive outcome
So ND should cower in fear of GT??? Give me a break, if both teams play great, ND wins. I dont think it will be easy, but even with our starting qb and rb out for the season, and lets not forget JJ as well, ND should still win this game at home.
UGA was on the road, FSU and Miss State were on neutral fields, Clemson was at home and they lost their starting QB early in the game.
GT actually only returns 8 defensive starters from a D that could only be judged a decent Power-5 defense, at best. They were opportunistic a year ago, but they also gave up a lot of yards.
Personally I respect ND and think this game will be a very tough test for GT. I see it as a 50/50 proposition and it appears that Vegas does also (judging from the lines). I think it will be a high-scoring shootout.
one more point of note....there back up qb is out. they run an offense that is very prone to get a qb knocked out for a few plays.
He must be the only person in college football who doesn't like David Cutcliff.
I am very excited about this game. I think ND was looking ahead to the GT game against UVA and got a wake up call. As someone (hiveredtech) has posted several times on our rivals board, ND has 50 non-injured rivals 4 and 5 star recruits...GT has 3. Bottom line is we are "out talented" in almost every game we play, including several teams we beat the shit out of every year like Virginia, North Carolina, etc and have owned teams with similar talent like Duke, NCST, Pitt, Syracuse, Maryland. Under CPJ We are .500 against FSU, have a 5-3 record against Clemson, and a 2-5 record against Miami, VPI and Georgia.
I fully expect a coin flip outcome in this game and would say the home field is nuetralized by the ND injuries. Whoever wins the TO battle will win.
The difference between our winning years vs not is QB. When we have a good qb, we've had 9,11 and 11 win teams. In the years with a bad qb, we're 6-7, 8-5, 7-7 and 7-6. Y'all are catching us with our best QB in his RS Jr season. If he stays healthy I like our chances. He is more like a point guard because teams are gearing up to stop the B-back and QB so far this year so his stats won't knock your socks off, but if he doesn't make stupid decisions on the edge and our young A-backs catch the pitches I think it will be the last team with the ball wins kind of game. Expecting 9 possessions for each team in this one with very few punts from either team
I fully expect a coin flip outcome in this game and would say the home field is nuetralized by the ND injuries. Whoever wins the TO battle will win.
The difference between our winning years vs not is QB. When we have a good qb, we've had 9,11 and 11 win teams. In the years with a bad qb, we're 6-7, 8-5, 7-7 and 7-6. Y'all are catching us with our best QB in his RS Jr season. If he stays healthy I like our chances. He is more like a point guard because teams are gearing up to stop the B-back and QB so far this year so his stats won't knock your socks off, but if he doesn't make stupid decisions on the edge and our young A-backs catch the pitches I think it will be the last team with the ball wins kind of game. Expecting 9 possessions for each team in this one with very few punts from either team
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