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FSU slammed for covering up Winston rape!

It's on the ESPN crawl right now. There was a 199 page police deposition released yesterday! Nice try though!

FSU is going to get slammed by the Feds and Title IX.
 
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No, the first story supports the findings released yesterday.

Are you actually trying to defend Winston, FSU and the police in this matter? It is clear they protected rapist.
 
It's not as though Big Fella hasn't earned a certain amount of skepticism any time he posts some "news" on this subject!
 
Oh really! You think it may be because everything I have stated about this case is now being shown to be totally factual. The report came out yesterday, and it details the cover up.

I'm not stating the cover up, USAToday and Fox Sports are!
 
No, the first story supports the findings released yesterday.

Are you actually trying to defend Winston, FSU and the police in this matter? It is clear they protected rapist.
Since you feel so strongly about this situation, why don't you spend your energy doing something to help the accused? Your relentless fsu obsession on an ND football board helps no one.
 
It's on the ESPN crawl right now. There was a 199 page police deposition released yesterday! Nice try though!

FSU is going to get slammed by the Feds and Title IX.
Only in your hopes and dreams.

That article has nothing to do with FSU. It dscusses the TPD and what might have been done to eliminate questions about the TPD's investigation. Also, you just assume if some additional evidence gathering was pursued that the result would be different. Not the case. Nothing that might have been done wouldn't change the lies she told, the accounts of her friends, the forensic evidence, the rape kit results or the witness accounts...... just to name a few constants.

Try again obsessed one. Your meds are wearing off.
 
cgvr, She does not need my help. She seems to have a nice family who are helping her and Winston and FSU will soon pay her millions!

Why don't you go play with yourself!
 
LOL, mo1e comes out of his hole to defend FSU. Good stuff.

How many million will they pay not to let the jury decide damages?
 
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LOL, mo1e comes out of his hole to defend FSU. Good stuff.

How many million will they pay not to let the jury decide damages?
You have never been right and facts confuse you. Why should some three year old case that has nothing to do with ND change now?

Then again, you still cry about 1993 and blame FSU for ND's failure to finish the job. And that was 22 years ago.
That USA today article outlines poor police work. Doesn't outline a cover up.
Exactly ...... but that would be contrary to his agenda. Ignoring facts, embellishing the truth and making up stuff is more to his posting style.
 
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How many millions Mo1e?

Why don't you also tell us about the FSU Asst. AD who was responsible for dealing with this issue, but led the deceit; You know Monk Bonasorte! Why don't you tell us what a reputable employee he is!
 
Why? This is a huge story and it vindicates so many that knew what Winston did and how FSU worked to cover it up!

Much more to come, it will be fun watching FSU fall.
 
It doesn't though. Everyone knew the police botched the investigation... we knew that months ago.
 
Maybe you didn't know that there is a civil trial and a federal investigation going on over Title IX violations. This could easily mean that FSU will be stripped of the MNC in 2013!
 
Nope knew that to. How does it easily mean FSU gets stripped of their title? What rule would the NCAA do that under?
 
Had they not hindered the investigation Winston would be in jail. They did their deed to keep him playing.

Yep, they should be stripped of the title!
 
The report linked above focuses on the events of November 2013 after Matt Baker of the Tampa Bay newspaper leaked the original police report to TMZ. The November news report of 2013 led to the state attorney investigation by Willie Meggs and is actually the second investigation. Meggs was not involved in the original investigation. The actual incident happened 11 months earlier on Dec. 6, 2012 and the original police report is from that time frame. In December of 2012 Winston had not yet played a down of football. From the very beginning, the accuser (EK) did not name Jameis and said that her attacker was 5'9". This is all in the original police report. Winston is 6'4". Reports indicating that the police could have done more have been construed to mean that there was no rape kit done during the original investigation (there was at the city hospital - not on campus) or that she was drunk (her alcohol level was less than 50% of the legal limit) or that she was drugged (two tests, including one from UF, indicate zero drugs in her system). You should take the time to read it if you want to comment on these matters.

You can do research on Willie Meggs and find that he is an FSU graduate, but that might make you think that he is a friend of the school. There are various incidents, especially with Peter Warrick, that completely debunk that view. As the SA, he has been very aggressive against FSU football players. But he keeps getting re-elected as he represents the "old guard" in the racial politics of Tallahassee. I won't say more on that. SA Meggs also has a very strained relationship with the Tallahassee Police Dept., and he has been trying to get control of them under his office. There is no doubt that he wanted to find a way to charge JW (Meggs didn't like him), but EK had three versions of the event before he interviewed her, and from I hear, she came up with another one. Meggs made it clear that she could not give credible testimony, and there was no physical evidence of a rape. Without her testimony, there is no case. You should take the time to read the SA report.

That does not mean that the police department isn't run by a bunch of lazy buffoons. They should have investigated more. Bad police work does not do anybody any good. Sexual violence on college campuses is a clear and serious issue. But there is a gap between what that means to some people and how rape is defined. It needs to be fixed. It can't be fixed by news organizations that pick and choose what it wants to report and it also can't be fixed by on campus investigations that do not allow students due process or right to an attorney. Sorry for going off track, but you have to read the articles regarding Harvard University to see what I mean.

All the potential criminal legal actions involving Winston are completely done. The only case that remains open with regard to him is the civil action between him and EK. They are suing each other for monetary damages. That will be an interesting case as through all of this, Winston never publicly spoke about what happened other than a statement when he was in front of the student council. The action against the school is a different and Winston is not involved with that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but read the police reports.
 
Why? This is a huge story and it vindicates so many that knew what Winston did and how FSU worked to cover it up!

Much more to come, it will be fun watching FSU fall.
THIS IS A ND MESSAGE BOARD! We care about things related to ND football or other sports programs not what goes on at other schools. Don't know how many times people have to tell you this before it gets into your head. This is not the right place for you to be talking about this crap. Just so you know it's not a huge story and it doesn't vindicate anyone. In a few months when FSU is cleared you will be here crying about a cover up under a new screen name. Like I said before " GET A LIFE AND GET OVER IT".
 
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THIS IS A ND MESSAGE BOARD! We care about things related to ND football or other sports programs not what goes on at other schools. Don't know how many times people have to tell you this before it gets into your head. This is not the right place for you to be talking about this crap. Just so you know it's not a huge story and it doesn't vindicate anyone. In a few months when FSU is cleared you will be here crying about a cover up under a new screen name. Like I said before " GET A LIFE AND GET OVER IT".
Well said. He'll never get it. He's always given the real ND fans the finger here.
 
Had they not hindered the investigation Winston would be in jail. They did their deed to keep him playing.

Yep, they should be stripped of the title!
With total disrespect intended, I can't think of a single person in the world whose interpretation of this situation should be ignored, discounted, maybe even scorned, more than yours.
 
Come on Mo1e, answer the question.

How many millions will be paid by Winston and FSU to avoid this situation and the cover up to not be aired in court?

While you are at it why do you refuse to answer why the Asst. AD in charge of monitoring athletes at FSU, and central to this cover up is a convicted felon.

You don't want to answer those questions, do you?
 
Come on Mo1e, answer the question.

How many millions will be paid by Winston and FSU to avoid this situation and the cover up to not be aired in court?

While you are at it why do you refuse to answer why the Asst. AD in charge of monitoring athletes at FSU, and central to this cover up is a convicted felon.

You don't want to answer those questions, do you?
Zero millions ...... I think Winston has a better case than Kinsman. His counter has more meaning unless there is something new that hasn't been presented in the last four investigations that found Winston NOT GUILTY. All the evidence vindicates Winston. You have yet to name one thing that supports your hate driven agenda. Crying cover-up is all you got and there's no real evidence of that.

I couldn't care less about the Assistant AD. This discussion isn't about him. You're getting hammered by the real ND fans in this thread and taken to school by FSU fans who know the facts and unlike yourself have actually read over 1000 pages of investigation that did occur so your natural course of action is deflecting. It's the argusman debate model.

You have adult ADD. Try focusing. Surely your therapist has suggested this.
 
This is real simple if FSU and Winston pay to keep this quiet you never post again and if not I'll quit posting here. Come on Mo1e, man up!

BTW, the counter suit is a ploy used by every depenfendent as a way to get the plaintiff to spend money in discovery. There is zero credibility to the counter suit.

As for this discussion not being about a convicted felon being hired by FSU to monitor athletes and in his position he spearheaded the Winston cover up, sure, I'm sure you don't want that discussion here.
 
BTW, Winston was never found "not guilty" on anything. The destroyed evidence and lies put the SA in a position were he stated he did not have "enough evidence to convict" and then went on about the cover up and bungled investigation.

Mo1e knows this, but is lying again.
 
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Counter-suit or not the other side has to spend money on discovery. It's a fairly complicated lawsuit.
 
This is real simple if FSU and Winston pay to keep this quiet you never post again and if not I'll quit posting here. Come on Mo1e, man up!

BTW, the counter suit is a ploy used by every depenfendent as a way to get the plaintiff to spend money in discovery. There is zero credibility to the counter suit.

As for this discussion not being about a convicted felon being hired by FSU to monitor athletes and in his position he spearheaded the Winston cover up, sure, I'm sure you don't want that discussion here.
No.... it's not that simple. As I have told you before..... anyone taking a self ban bet with you would be an idiot or just started posting yesterday. That bet means nothing to you. You have been banned too many times to count and at least two dozen were lifetime bans. That hasn't stopped you from inventing another name (or 2 or 3) and continuing word for word your embarrassing delusional dialog in this non monitored safe haven. You wouldn't last two posts at any other site.

Now, if you want to put some cash on the outcome then name the amount or like last time you failed to sucker me in on a self ban bet put it where the sun don't shine. By the way... you would have lost that bet.

There may be zero credibility to the counter suit but it's 100 percent more credible than her suit.

I know you live by the Obama law and don't respect or acknowledge the Constitution or Bill of Rights but a person is still considered innocent until proven guilty in America. Not enough evidence to even charge, much less convict means "not guilty" in America.

Now tell us ...... where is all this evidence of guilt that no one one can find. Just one shred that might trump all the lies she has told plus the forensics and witness accounts. When you can answer this then get back to us. You have failed to do so up to this point.
 
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