Oh before I get started the Screen name is because when I signed up I signed up on the Boiler site to go in and trash a Boiler fan that was talking about the Irish. I actually grew up rooting for both the Irish and Boilermakers because I had relatives at both.The Irish will have played 6 games against top 35 teams in the country when the season ends. Oklahoma will have 3 all against the Big 12 and 2 of those against teams that will not have had their starting QB's Baylor and TCU most likely. Now all these Big Twelve teams have only played 3 top 35 teams as well in each other. Oklahoma will also have the Texas loss as well with ND having the loss by 1 yard at Clemson. Also if you look beyond the 6 top 35 teams ND will have played and Oklahoma only having 3 with a possibility of adding Tennessee if they win at Mizzou. The bottom 6 overall on both teams schedule are fairly even. This computer strength of schedue is complete BS. Also out of the 6 top 35 teams ND will have played 4 on the road. Yes Oklahoma will have played 2 of their 3 on the road but one missing their starting QB. So lets get real if there is no Big 12 undefeated then none deserve to go ahead of the Irish. If OK State goes undefeated you have to give them the nod strictly for being undefeated even though I believe ND is a better team than OK State but no one loss Big Twelve is going ahead of the Irish. The biggest ND nightmare is Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma State undefeated and one loss Bama and that is the scenario no Irish fan wants to see!
For everybody saying Oklahoma will have the better schedule.
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Boiler, exactly right. I would also stack our resume against both Alabama, and definitely OSU (who has played nobody)
Diehard you are right on that as well!! Bama has not played any more of a daunting schedule than the Irish!! I know everyone will say but it's the SEC and 9 out of 10 years they would be right but the SEC is not the normal SEC this year!!
Are you sure about Alabama? They have Charlestown Southern this week. What a joke!
Sagarin has Bama with the # 3 SOS and ND with the # 25 SOS.
http://www.sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
Are there a lot of people saying OU's schedule is better? The computer rankings have it significantly worse the ND's.
While I like Sagarin for some things I don't see this and the thing that really floors me about Sagarin is how in the hell can you have same record as someone and a much higher strength of schedule and be ranked behind that team? I don't get it!!
Little Giant most are saying at end of season Oklahoma will be better because of next two games. I still call BS!!
Without knowing the formula used, those ratings don't mean much. I didn't say they weren't good, I said I would stack our resume up against anyone. And I see Alabama is play FCS again this week. What a joke. There biggest win is against an incredibly over rated one dimensional LSU. I would take the talent at USC over that. Say what you want about our schedule, at least they are all D1
I guess my question is are you saying that most posters on this board are saying that or most analysts/TV guys are saying that? OU's will be more top heavy then ND's probably but not better overall in my opinion.
Funny. You continue to claim that Bama is overrated. Virtually everyone else says that Bama is the best team in the country right now. What do you know that everyone else doesn't know?
Don't know what if funny about it.
What I think is not the trendy thing with Bama and I actually like the way they play.
Why is Alabama overrated? The Ole Miss loss each week now looks worse and worse. But.....why are they sort of immune to it but Notre Dame isn't? Example....they are now saying because Temple lost, Stanford lost Notre Dame is going to have trouble getting in. Ok...then it should be a two way street right?
One week Bama whipped an LSU team that I felt was overrated too. They can't throw whatsoever and it's not the typical LSU defensive team.
So everyone was ready to crown them or something after that win.
LSU just got whipped by Arkansas. So what is Bamas best win as they want to say it? A #17 still overrated Lsu team? Well then ...Notre Dames best win is against #19 Navy.
The losses....a close loss for Bama to a what's becoming an average unranked Ole miss team.
Notre Dames loss came a close on to the all #1 team in all the land. That could have been Won.
Your entire basis for claiming Bama is overrated is the fact that ND lost to # 1 Clemson and Bama lost to unranked Ole Miss. Watching the games week after week, Bama seems to me to be the best team in the country.
They play Charleston Southern this week, week 12 of the season. Talk about a strategically placed practice, Wow! Thank God ND never plays FCS teams
You think Clemson is a better team than Bama? The same Clemson team which struggled to beat Syracuse this past Saturday?
So those are more of reasons why ND may be underrated then why Bama is necessarily overrated. Bama didn't play well against Ole Miss but has looked generally dominant out side of that game. LSU beats everyone ND has played to date outside of Clemson.
I agree with this. The fact that ND may not be ranked as highly as most of us would like does not detract from Bama being a damn good team.
No ...my basis on that is this. Bama has played against one team this year good at passing and running. Ole miss. They lost because Bama is great against the run because they pack 9==yes , 9 in the box most times because they play no real legit passing attacks. The SEC this year is just run heavy. The lone team who can pass they lost.
LSU can't pass. MSU can't pass. So dare them to throw. What happened? Inaccurate passing.
Ole miss can pass. Bama lost. Yes they had a bad game but they were home, in good conditions. Why did they lose? Ole miss can throw productively.
Ole miss is a good offensive team, they just can't stop anyone.
I like our chances with our passing attack against Alabama.
I think Bama would have a hard time against the pass happy B12 schools..who the committee thinks so lowly of.
As I said I like how Bama plays. It's old school and they control the clock. I admire that.
But they are not the bow down to team people think this year. Sorry
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No one has said that Bama is not a damn good team. The assertion is they are over rated at #2. There is a big difference between the two.
And we lost to Clemson, because we turned it over 4 times along with umpteen drops. What does that mean?
No you don't. The point is pointing to the fact that they turned it over 5 times means what. That they are the best team but had a bad day. You can use that logic across college football. So what was your point in that?
Yeah...some strange stuff in the Sag calculations. I've always wondered this. Some of his models are based on total points & some aren't. So one could argue that though you have a better SOS, if you didn't win impressively, you could be ranked lower. But if total points don't matter, then I don't get it. Probably factors in home/road, and some other factors.
If you look at current Sag, OU is #1, 2, or 3 in each of his metrics with #44 SOS (3-0 v Top 30). ND is #6 with #25 SOS (3-1 v Top 30). Go figure.
hardly. bama is the best team I've watched this year and that's with very average QB play. best front seven I've seen this year. yeah they lost to ole miss and it took 5 turnovers and a fluke td pass. the thing is they're getting better every week much like ohio st last year. on a neutral field bama would be favored over every other team.
hardly. bama is the best team I've watched this year and that's with very average QB play. best front seven I've seen this year. yeah they lost to ole miss and it took 5 turnovers and a fluke td pass. the thing is they're getting better every week much like ohio st last year. on a neutral field bama would be favored over every other team.
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