I will take that bet.I haven’t done any research but I’d feel pretty comfortable taking Indiana +12.5. I like their chances.
I will take that bet.I haven’t done any research but I’d feel pretty comfortable taking Indiana +12.5. I like their chances.
Let me know how much you bet. I ain’t betting.I will take that bet.
Notre Dame's entire schedule is out of conference. TAMU is the best win this year. That unbeaten Navy team got pounded by Tulane a week later. USC (ND's last scheduled game) beat Washington and Nebraska by a combined 13 points (IU beat them by a combined 63)...and lost to the same Maryland team that IU beat by 2 touchdowns. And USC is currently 5-5. IOW....opponent schedules and comparisons are full of contradictions. IU plays a full BIG conference schedule. OSU is favored by 10.5 right now. That may move up or down...but its probably about right. That doesn't mean OSU will win the game. I think IU is better than the PSU team that OSU beat by a touchdown. Its one of those "if they played 10 times...OSU wins 9 of them" deals (same rosters and coaches). I didn't see the NIU loss coming....especially after the sound beating that ND put on TAMU. Two different ND teams showed up a week apart. I think IU's chances against OSU are at least as good as Notre Dame's.....and I'll take heat for saying so.But they don't make their ooc schedule.
FIU, Western Illinois, Charlotte
They didn't want him to get poached by a bigger P5 school.This is stupid, so many colleges do this now and it seems like most bite them in the butt too.
He may be a fine coach but IU is NOT going to be an annual power in the B10. 7-8 wins will be their norm.
Indiana's schedule stinksNotre Dame's entire schedule is out of conference. TAMU is the best win this year. That unbeaten Navy team got pounded by Tulane a week later. USC (ND's last scheduled game) beat Washington and Nebraska by a combined 13 points (IU beat them by a combined 63)...and lost to the same Maryland team that IU beat by 2 touchdowns. And USC is currently 5-5. IOW....opponent schedules and comparisons are full of contradictions. IU plays a full BIG conference schedule. OSU is favored by 10.5 right now. That may move up or down...but its probably about right. That doesn't mean OSU will win the game. I think IU is better than the PSU team that OSU beat by a touchdown. Its one of those "if they played 10 times...OSU wins 9 of them" deals (same rosters and coaches). I didn't see the NIU loss coming....especially after the sound beating that ND put on TAMU. Two different ND teams showed up a week apart. I think IU's chances against OSU are at least as good as Notre Dame's.....and I'll take heat for saying so.
That's fair.Well, Purdue sure isn't one of them powerhouse programs this season!
But also -- could this be a situation similar to Charlie Weis?True, but he is doing it at Indiana. Doormat of the big ten.
You think MF would’ve had the same results?
When did Charie Weis start 10-0? He lost game 3 to Michigan St.But also -- could this be a situation similar to Charlie Weis?
Let's see how he does in years 2-3-4
Indiana's schedule stinks
Thats true, echo.....but.....Cignetti has demonstrated his skills with the portal. Its the new "signing day" thing. We will know more in the off season.What Indiana is doing has been great for college football. The question becomes is this season for them an anomaly or the beginning of something sustainable ? I would definitely lean to the former as their roster certainly isn't built yet for the latter.
I don't know how many years you can build your team through the portal. Fla St. was very successful last year utilizing it but you almost have to hit on every player because they're likely short term players. Adding to a solid roster built through recruiting with portal players in specific areas of need is ideal. I just don't think you can do it in large numbers year after year. Hard to establish a culture that way in my opinion.Thats true, echo.....but.....Cignetti has demonstrated his skills with the portal. Its the new "signing day" thing. We will know more in the off season.
Lane Kiffin is benefiting from the portal.I don't know how many years you can build your team through the portal. Fla St. was very successful last year utilizing it but you almost have to hit on every player because they're likely short term players. Adding to a solid roster built through recruiting with portal players in specific areas of need is ideal. I just don't think you can do it in large numbers year after year. Hard to establish a culture that way in my opinion.
Lots of teams benefit from the portal, Notre Dame included. I just don't believe you can utilize the portal as the foundation of your team year in and year out and have sustained success.Lane Kiffin is benefiting from the portal.
It was not meant that CW started 10-0, but the mainly contract extension after 9-10 games in year 1 -- could have phrased that betterWhen did Charie Weis start 10-0? He lost game 3 to Michigan St.
That near win to the defacto #1 team in the country (USC) back in 2005 under Charlie Weis still might be the best "win" ND has had in the last 20 years.It was not meant that CW started 10-0, but the mainly contract extension after 9-10 games in year 1 -- could have phrased that better
You follow me around in every topic I make calling me a troll and trying to rally the community to ignore me but every time I see one of your posts you're replicating a point I've made after I make it.Lane Kiffin is benefiting from the portal.
I don't think the portal is the foundation that Cignetti is planning. To build a winning program, it starts with the culture. And the culture starts with a pattern of success. Cignetti is establishing the pattern...which he has a history of doing. Building will take time. Next year at IU will be interesting, regardless of how this year finishes up.Lots of teams benefit from the portal, Notre Dame included. I just don't believe you can utilize the portal as the foundation of your team year in and year out and have sustained success.
More nonsense from chasemeballsThat near win to the defacto #1 team in the country (USC) back in 2005 under Charlie Weis still might be the best "win" ND has had in the last 20 years.
I would hope not. Can he generate real sustained interest to top tier recruits ? A strong showing tomorrow would be a good start. If they get raced their season will be viewed as an anomaly in my opinion. Hopefully they play very well.I don't think the portal is the foundation that Cignetti is planning. To build a winning program, it starts with the culture. And the culture starts with a pattern of success. Cignetti is establishing the pattern...which he has a history of doing. Building will take time. Next year at IU will be interesting, regardless of how this year finishes up.
Of course it's a smart move if they've made a series commitment to the football program. Time will tell if he can recruit well enough to have it be sustainable and not be overly dependent on portal players.IU has big money behind the football program. Cig has never had a losing record as a head coach. IU has several underclassmen performing at a high level. Great continuity on the coaching staff. His new package included more money for his staff. The financial impact for the IU community has been substantial. I think it was a smart move. Cig wants this to be his last stop. Why not?
Really? Do you think they put a bid in on Bryce Underwood? And IU's going to be major players in the NIL wars moving forward? Interesting. They're starting small with all these JMU guys. Building the foundation. Then they're going to go after the big fish.IU has big money behind the football program. Cig has never had a losing record as a head coach. IU has several underclassmen performing at a high level. Great continuity on the coaching staff. His new package included more money for his staff. The financial impact for the IU community has been substantial. I think it was a smart move. Cig wants this to be his last stop. Why not?
Cig brought the guys in who know his system. He stated IU doubled his NIL money. Apparently, they have the fifth biggest NIL in the Big. Cuban and Cook got behind the football program. It will be interesting to see how he does going forward.Really? Do you think they put a bid in on Bryce Underwood? And IU's going to be major players in the NIL wars moving forward? Interesting. They're starting small with all these JMU guys. Building the foundation. Then they're going to go after the big fish.
Off to a good start!
I haven't researched it at all, so I really don't know, but still I'm under the impression that with revenue sharing starting next year, that the advent of that is somehow going to put an end to NIL bidding wars. I've heard at least one NIL collective guru on a podcast, pretty much flatly say that, or allude to it with no uncertainty. But he didn't go into any details, which one would imagine are technical and tedious. It's probably illegal somehow, and will be challenged by players and boosters in the courts.Cig brought the guys in who know his system. He stated IU doubled his NIL money. Apparently, they have the fifth biggest NIL in the Big. Cuban and Cook got behind the football program. It will be interesting to see how he does going forward.
2The state of Indiana is becoming the new Florida/CA/Texas with multiple powerhouse programs.
Definitely som truth to this. Kamara is special, Dumervil style DE. This types of transfers don’t come often nor does the Fisher kid at LB.I think many of them will graduate, and they were James Madison transfers. I bet you he will be something of a one hit wonder. I would be surprised if IU suddenly emerged as a Big Ten power. But it's not like he did it this season with a bunch of SEC transfers or whatnot. At least that's not the narrative. He brought a bunch of his boys with him from 1-AA, and now they're tearing up the Big Ten!
You never wouldSo you do want to make a bet?
Loser leaves the board for 6 months tool ?
^^ Say you're afraid to make the bet without saying you're afraid to make the betYou never would
this board is clearly all you live for
though it would certainly benefit the board if you were forever gone
Don't fall for Golson5's BS. MF's agent was in discussions last season about an extension. Those discussions fizzled a bit after the Clemson loss. They have been back in discussions prior to Cignetti's deal. So of course there is going to be an extension and an increase in pay. The problem is no one is going to know the amount because ND is a private school, so it's a meaningless bet that can't be proven that he's going to earn more than Cignetti in base salary.sure its not like ND has reupped coaches it should not have before....
Freeman has done better this year but turds like NIU are still unacceptable
And your typical horsecrap does not change anything tool
You can't help yourself. You are pathetic. You post more about me than you do about Notre Dame. How sad is thatDon't fall for Golson5's BS. MF's agent was in discussions last season about an extension. Those discussions fizzled a bit after the Clemson loss. They have been back in discussions prior to Cignetti's deal. So of course there is going to be an extension and an increase in pay. The problem is no one is going to know the amount because ND is a private school, so it's a meaningless bet that can't be proven that he's going to earn more than Cignetti in base salary.
The dude is a tool. He was too cowardly to bet me regarding ND jumping PSU this past week. We saw how that went. He's nothing but a liar, coward and fraud.
Haha!! I enjoy getting you wound up. I absolutely know. It's about Indiana locking up Cignetti for 8 years 64 million, and you responding that MF is happy about it. You don't know sh1t about what MF is thinking or feeling. MF is going to get paid based on his performance. Notre Dame is not Indiana. ND offers much more in terms of base and perks than IU ever could.You can't help yourself. You are pathetic. You post more about me than you do about Notre Dame. How sad is that
Let's see the lies here....1. I never said ND would jump psu last week. I said they should. So nice try but a lies right there. 2. I said MF is going to get a big pay raise and extension (he is). He is the one who started running his mouth about NIU like that will have anything to do with it
So you don't even know what we were talking about and you still can't stop obsessing about me. Again, I did not bring you up or reference you but you had to speak on me. And you will do it again and again because you can't stop thinking about me
You are too cowardly to bet me on the Notre Dame game. Little bi**h
Like I said, you would never pay up^^ Say you're afraid to make the bet without saying you're afraid to make the bet
Make the bet. Don't be scaredLike I said, you would never pay up
you would have nothing to live for
Weak ass 🤣Haha!! I enjoy getting you wound up. I absolutely know. It's about Indiana locking up Cignetti for 8 years 64 million, and you responding that MF is happy about it. You don't know sh1t about what MF is thinking or feeling. MF is going to get paid based on his performance. Notre Dame is not Indiana. ND offers much more in terms of base and perks than IU ever could.
You offering to bet someone that MF will be extended and get a pay increase is just dumb. We can confirm the extension, but you'll never be able to confirm how much of an increase MF received.
You're just too stupid, and I enjoy calling you out on your stupidity. You're a moron.
Because I enjoy exposing you as the fraud you are. You post on here pretending to be in the know and you don't know sh1t. You're a joke, a complete loser that lives on this forum 24/7. I'm lmao 🤣 at you.Weak ass 🤣
You don't know shit obviously. What stupid comments you come with
You enjoy calling me out 🤣🤣. Thats hilarious. I get you everytime. And you'll keep coming back because you can't help yourself