I thought they called it because Faison went in motion before Evans was fully set, or maybe I'm thinking of another play. There were a hell of a lot of penalties.
Can we talk about the effin refs?
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In a game like this , everything is scrutinized. Both teams made critical mental mistakes. There were also some questionable penalties. With that said 4 plays really stand out. The first fumble caused by Shuler was huge. The strip fumble on the QB just before half. The kickoff for the TD and a huge drop from the Georgia WR that may have been a TD. Though they did score shortly after that. But those plays were crucial to the outcome.
Since Georgia did score shortly after the drop, I'll substitute the 4th down stop after interference was called on Kiser. There were was about 9:30 left on the clock when we took over at the 10 and effectively bled the clock down to 2 minutes to seal the win.
This is how I saw it too. Contact with the WR was simultaneous with the ball hitting him in the back. No PI
There’s more to the PI rule than just contact.
The defender can’t play the receiver, he has to play the ball and Kizer didn’t play the ball
That had to be the worse call of the game next to Riley getting a face masked, in which the whole world saw except the refs
No -- that was a good call -- Kiser basically had him wrapped up, and was not playing the ball to boot. And, never gave the receiver an opportunity to make a catch. Gray's PI -- don't grab the jersey where officials can see it.
The issue with Faison's call was that the TE was not set long enough (remember, he had just shifted prior to Faison) before Faison took off to go in motion.
You can sub all 11 players before the ball is put in play -- the ball is determined to be "put in play" when the center puts his hands on the ball. If you watch the replay, the long snapper never puts his hands on the ball -- thus, the ball has not been "put in play". That was the key to that play.
I thought the contact with the WR was right before the ball hits Kaiser in the back. My question is if any incidental contact triggers the faceguarding dpi. Kaiser's hand brushing the waist did not affect the pass at all.
Also I cannot find a clip of the illegal motion penalty called on Faison.
Thanks for the clarification! Kirby crying saying SEC officials said it was illegal.....well no shit! Screw the SEC
100% targeting. I hate the sitting out a half BS. I have watched a ton of FB this year and I have seen a lot of ticky tack BS targeting calls that were no where close to that play.
We deserved a few, but 2 of the PI's were BS. The missed Facemask. Multiple holds on our pass rushers. The Faison moving. The missed PI on them on that 3rd and 7. We might have got away with one on the 4th down fake punt. I dont think it evened out and it did keep GA on / off the field too many times.
A ton of money for ESPN if the SEC wins.....not so much for ND, Boise or others
Well these things do happen. Doesn't have to be full on elaborate conspiracies, but just a basic imperative, and they get the memo. Do what you can to help the SEC. Only when we started putting the game away did the flags start flying. Every time we got a first down. The day after targeting-gate in the Peach Bowl. Obviously that was the one where you were astonished, and like, holy shit are they trying to throw this game to Texas?
Don’t be idiotic here. If a ball hits a defender before/at the same time as contact with the offensive player , how can that be a penalty for Pass Interference? Again, don’t be dumb. It’s called a shit throw
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You’re wrong. Kiser never “wrapped him up.” There’s only an illusion to this. Watch the replay
Here is the rule.
Is face guarding illegal in college football?
Morelli is incorrect about at least one thing: Face-guarding (i.e., a defender facing the player he is covering, rather than looking at the ball) is not illegal at the NCAA level. Rather, college football has the same penalty threshold as the pros — face-guarding is legal, as long as there is no contact.And those who don't, contribute to the zebras continuing to make wrong calls. If it's wrong someone needs the stones to call it out! I like the outcry about the Arizona State "targeting" fiasco, but it does no good to pontificate after the game. Maybe there should be reviews from better sources and maybe coaches should be able to challenge penalty calls, like in the CFL. Overall officiating should be better at all games, but especially in the CFP!
Kirby Smart calls out officials, Notre Dame substitution that led to Georgia penalty in Sugar Bowl
Georgia head coach Kirby Smart called out the officials after a Notre Dame substitution led to a penalty late in the Sugar Bowl.www.on3.com
Everyone complains about the refs.
He doesn't have to be set "long enough" as Faison was not in motion until he was set... that is the key. The must be set for 1 second only applies when two or more players are in motion at the same time. The "rules expert" also confirmed this during replay.
that’s not true.
When a defender has his back to the ball, and he’s playing the receiver, with or without his arm/s out stretched without touching the receiver, he’s guilty of pass interference
The rule is specific about that particular situation.
Physical contact is a necessary component of pass interference.
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Check out the play at 5:05 of the 4th quarter. If you have the espn skycast, you can see and hear the Georgia LB bark out the call for the DL to shift and then they shift. That should have been a five yard delay of game. What if ND had false started? Now it’s 1st and 15 instead of the 1st and 5 that it should have been. I hope the coaches address this with officials for the next game.
Kiser being called for the delay of game appeared to be the correct call. That said, the ball is at about midfield. At that point in the game, I don’t see the point in playing around and trying to draw Georgia off. It’s 4th and 7 with around one quarter left. It’s probably best to just let them punt and get the ball back. I’d like to see that corrected.
The Kiser delay of game was a crazy turn of events. I was so mad when that happened, as I was relieved when UGA had false started and decided to punt. But then Kiser's delay of game, actually ended up being a good thing, as UGA came back on field and didn't convert giving ND great field position. Don't think I've seen that before.
I was pretty unhappy as well. Georgia could have picked up the first and cut the lead to one score. You can’t beat yourself.
Let me type this in a form you understand, ABSOLUTELY WRONG…
It doesn’t matter if the ball hits the defender before or at the same time as contact with the offensive player.
If the defender plays the player and never looks for the ball, it’s pass interference even though the ball hits the defender in the back
I guess for you, ignorance is bliss
Read the rule
So if there’s a safety running around who gets hit with an errant pass, but then moments later bumps into an eligible receiver, that’s pass interference to you? 😂
That’s an absurd, example absent sufficient detail
What was the juxtaposition of the defender and the receiver when the defender was hit by the wall?
I made a ridiculous (but possible) scenario to illustrate to you just how dumb your theory on this rule is. Once a pass has been touched by the defense and there was no previous contact that would have resulted in PI, It’s a live ball until it hits the ground. Then it’s an incomplete ball. Kiser got there and made contact at the same exact time as the ball hit him in the back. No call.
There’s absolutely ZERO requirement to turn and look back.
You need to reread these rules you keep hinting at. I’m certain you’re one three things:
1) you are misunderstanding the real rule
2) you aren’t understanding that some posters, including me, think contact was not initiated prior to the ball hitting Kiser in the back
3) you just want to argue for arguments sake
With you, all three things are very possible
