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Cam Ward opts out of the 2nd half

Shakin' Down the Thunder said:
But i guess the real question is... can he look at himself in the mirror? When he's on his deathbed one day, is he gonna say... I'm glad I opted out the 2nd half. I'm a better man for it?
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But if he had a Jaylon Smith kind of injury in that second half...? I'll say it again, I'm shocked he played at all. The only reason these games are played is for tv revenue and the advertising industry. I have no problem with these kids protecting their future.

College football is a bu$ine$$ with a capital $ now. All the players are paid, and some are millionaires. ND may buy another NFL level QB this year (I hope not.) But that is what it is. Hell, the coaches are being paid 10 million. How do you think Lincoln Riley is feeling sitting at 7-6! He'll do anything to get to the playoffs.
 
stu4don said:
But if he had a Jaylon Smith kind of injury in that second half...? I'll say it again, I'm shocked he played at all. The only reason these games are played is for tv revenue and the advertising industry. I have no problem with these kids protecting their future.

College football is a bu$ine$$ with a capital $ now. All the players are paid, and some are millionaires. ND may buy another NFL level QB this year (I hope not.) But that is what it is. Hell, the coaches are being paid 10 million. How do you think Lincoln Riley is feeling sitting at 7-6! He'll do anything to get to the playoffs.
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You can make that Jaylon Smith argument for every snap you play. Every play is a risk, bowl game or not. If that's what you're worried about and you're going to let fear make that decision for you, then you shouldn't play football at all in my opinion.

I don't get what Riley has to do w/ this topic, but OK.
 
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christophero said:
Or a financial penalty for opting out.
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You can't do that. That's not the nature of the contract. They're not pay for play contracts, they're advertising contracts. And while seemingly a contract might include any terms you might think of and agree to, apparently it's considered a very bad idea, by collectives and their lawyers, to include anything in the contracts that is in anyway tied to football performance, like promising to play in bowl games, because that would fall afoul of NIL rules in a way that the players/collectives wouldn't like. And so they can't be financially penalized, because such actions are not included in the purview of these contracts.

But I'm not certain of that.
 
stu4don said:
Iowa State had 8 players opt out of the game. Miami had 10. It is what it is.
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Good for them.

I had zero problem with Joe Alt skipping the Notre Dame Sun Bowl last season, and applaud him and his NFL dad for having the common sense to do so:
 
savvyandsassier said:
You can't do that. That's not the nature of the contract. They're not pay for play contracts, they're advertising contracts. And while seemingly a contract might include any terms you might think of and agree to, apparently it's considered a very bad idea, by collectives and their lawyers, to include anything in the contracts that is in anyway tied to football performance, like promising to play in bowl games, because that would fall afoul of NIL rules in a way that the players/collectives wouldn't like. And so they can't be financially penalized, because such actions are not included in the purview of these contracts.

But I'm not certain of that.
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Well the advertising company could do that then so they could advertise them in the bowl game correct?
 
sjb75 said:
Good for them.

I had zero problem with Joe Alt skipping the Notre Dame Sun Bowl last season, and applaud him and his NFL dad for having the common sense to do so:
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So what happens when they’re in the NFL and they’re not gonna make the playoffs
Are they going to quit on their team?
Are they going to stop putting forth their maximum effort?

Maybe you’re a quitter and that’s why you sympathize with them
 
Patrish said:
So what happens when they’re in the NFL and they’re not gonna make the playoffs
Are they going to quit on their team?
Are they going to stop putting forth their maximum effort?

Maybe you’re a quitter and that’s why you sympathize with them
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Joe Alt will earn 200 million playing in the NFL.

He had zero business playing in the Sun Bowl.

Joe’s NFL dad guided him properly.
 
deadirishpoet said:
Well the advertising company could do that then so they could advertise them in the bowl game correct?
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I don't know, I don't think so. That would be an area of legal nicety that would be beyond my ken. But generally, and in principle, the contracts can't require you to play in games for a certain team. So I'm not sure how you would construct such a contract that would effectively require it, or you don't get paid, and yet it wouldn't contain any direct language, or sufficient allusion to just that. But I'm not a contract lawyer.
 
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sjb75 said:
Joe Alt will earn 200 million playing in the NFL.

He had zero business playing in the Sun Bowl.

Joe’s NFL dad guided him properly.
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He would’ve made that and maybe more if he played in the Sun Bowl

Interior lineman rarely get career ending injuries in bowl games
 
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