Cam Ward opts out of the 2nd half

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

This is getting ridiculous. What message are we sending to kids of America when this happens without any consequences? I'm absolutely disgusted.

You can't even do this in the NFL, as just a couple of weeks ago Devondre Campbell walked out on his team and got called out for it by everyone. As a result, he got suspended abd will likely never play again. But somehow in college, this is OK??

Miami Star Cam Ward Made a Business Decision at Halftime of Pop-Tarts Bowl

In a barn-burner of a Pop-Tarts Bowl, the Miami Hurricanes star elected to opt-out of the contest at halftime.

www.si.com

 

[stu4don]

I'm shocked he played at all! A meaningless game. He's the #1 pick. Why chance it? Hartman didn't even take that chance!

 

[deadirishpoet]

This is getting ridiculous. What message are we sending to kids of America when this happens without any consequences? I'm absolutely disgusted.

You can't even do this in the NFL, as just a couple of weeks ago Devondre Campbell walked out on his team and got called out for it by everyone. As a result, he got suspended abd will likely never play again. But somehow in college, this is OK??

Miami Star Cam Ward Made a Business Decision at Halftime of Pop-Tarts Bowl

In a barn-burner of a Pop-Tarts Bowl, the Miami Hurricanes star elected to opt-out of the contest at halftime.

www.si.com

They still would have lost

 

[savvyandsassier]

I know, that was awesome. Emory Williams, Miami's QB of the future, had to take over. I think it's great. It's like a preview for next season. And they split it up with the two halves. A little microcosm.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I'm shocked he played at all! A meaningless game. He's the #1 pick. Why chance it? Hartman didn't even take that chance!

I presume its because he wanted the NCAA all time passing TDs record and he got that before halftime. If that's true, then it's a classic case of let's put individual glory before team glory.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

They still would have lost

The result of the game has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

 

[Pennick4]

I presume its because he wanted the NCAA all time passing TDs record and he got that before halftime. If that's true, then it's a classic case of let's put individual glory before team glory.

Well said. Glad they lost!

 

[deadirishpoet]

The result of the game has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

And they still would have lost

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

And they still would have lost

So are you saying that it's OK to quit on your team because of the likelihood of losing?

 

[savvyandsassier]

I presume its because he wanted the NCAA all time passing TDs record and he got that before halftime. If that's true, then it's a classic case of let's put individual glory before team glory.

I guess that's true. It's hard to argue with that. But I prefer my narrative. Out with the old in with the new. They got one half with Cam Ward one with the new guy.

 

[sjb75]

So are you saying that it's OK to quit on your team because of the likelihood of losing?

Joe Alt and Blake Fisher sat out last season’s bowl game.

Are they quitters as well?

 

[deadirishpoet]

So are you saying that it's OK to quit on your team because of the likelihood of losing?

Not at all, but in today's game when it's all about the individual this shouldn't have surprised you..

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Joe Alt and Blake Fisher sat out last season’s bowl game.

Are they quitters as well?

What else would we call them?

 

[echowaker]

Not at all, but in today's game when it's all about the individual this shouldn't have surprised you..

Now if he only could have played defense....

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Not at all, but in today's game when it's all about the individual this shouldn't have surprised you..

So then what is your point about Miami still losing if he played 2nd half?

 

[deadirishpoet]

Now if he only could have played defense....

Well played

 

[sjb75]

What else would we call them?

Smart.

 

[echowaker]

What else would we call them?

I certainly wouldn't call them quitters. They are in a billion dollar industry and made a wise business decision given all the circumstances. Smart to me.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I guess that's true. It's hard to argue with that. But I prefer my narrative. Out with the old in with the new. They got one half with Cam Ward one with the new guy.

 

[deadirishpoet]

So then what is your point about Miami still losing if he played 2nd half?

You know you're right.......he's a scumbag

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I certainly wouldn't call them quitters. They are in a billion dollar industry and made a wise business decision given all the circumstances. Smart to me.

So put your financial future before the team who needs and wants you to play one last time? That's the message we should send to our kids of America?

I'm truly asking then... what is your definition of a quitter?

 

[deadirishpoet]

I certainly wouldn't call them quitters. They are in a billion dollar industry and made a wise business decision given all the circumstances. Smart to me.

Anything other reason than a business decision should be as acceptable as well then if that the new game don't you think?

 

[sjb75]

So put your financial future before the team who needs and wants you to play one last time? That's the message we should send to our kids of America?

I'm truly asking then... what is your definition of a quitter?

It’s certainly not yours.

I 100 per cent support Joe Alt sitting the bowl game last season.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I think that's right back at you. It's a effin' bowl game, man. The pop tarts bowl. You get that, pop tarts. It ain't no thing. Don't worry about it.

 

[deadirishpoet]

So put your financial future before the team who needs and wants you to play one last time? That's the message we should send to our kids of America?

I'm truly asking then... what is your definition of a quitter?

It's a different mindset today

 

[echowaker]

So put your financial future before the team who needs and wants you to play one last time? That's the message we should send to our kids of America?

I'm truly asking then... what is your definition of a quitter?

Their responsibility is not sending messages to kids. I guarantee you their teammates understood and supported their decision. They understand what's at stake. It's a meaningless game with absolutely nothing at stake. Take the emotion out of it.

 

[deadirishpoet]

I think that's right back at you. It's a effin' bowl game, man. The pop tarts bowl. You get that, pop tarts. It ain't no thing. Don't worry about it.

So they were all playing for nothing.......got it

 

[sjb75]

It's a different mindset today

Joe Alt stands to earn around 200 million playing in the NFL.

He made the correct decision.

 

[echowaker]

It's a different mindset today

Of course it is. It's become a billion dollar industry. Risk vs reward in a game that has nothing at stake is an easy decision.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I think that's right back at you. It's a effin' bowl game, man. The pop tarts bowl. You get that, pop tarts. It ain't no thing. Don't worry about it.

If it ain't no thing then why participate in this discussion?

I am worried about it because the game I knew and loved growing up is no longer the same. And I worry about how this affects kids across America when they see this. Maybe it's silly of me to do that, but I'm doing it anyway.

 

[echowaker]

So they were all playing for nothing.......got it

Unfortunately in today's game that's pretty much true...
Unless you get bonus NIL money.

 

[sjb75]

It's a different mindset today

Yeah.

A smart one.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Their responsibility is not sending messages to kids. I guarantee you their teammates understood and supported their decision. They understand what's at stake. It's a meaningless game with absolutely nothing at stake. Take the emotion out of it.

What's at stake the are insured against financial losses according to Neuheisel on full ride

 

[deadirishpoet]

Unfortunately in today's game that's pretty much true...
Unless you get bonus NIL money.

So why play at all then?

 

[echowaker]

If it ain't no thing then why participate in this discussion?

I am worried about it because the game I knew and loved growing up is no longer the same. And I worry about how this affects kids across America when they see this. Maybe it's silly of me to do that, but I'm doing it anyway.

I appreciate your viewpoint as a passionate fan. Being in the middle of it my vantage point is different. Doesn't make me any less of a fan though.

 

[Golson5]

Of course it is. It's become a billion dollar industry. Risk vs reward in a game that has nothing at stake is an easy decision.

After a team loses 3 games, why don't they just shut the whole team down then right? It's all meaningless. Nothing matters. Just look out for yourself. What a culture to be around. Worked out great for FSU....

 

[savvyandsassier]

So they were all playing for nothing.......got it

Yeah, they were. They were playing for nothing. If you insist on putting it that way. You know what the mothereffin' deal is, don't play dumb. You know why these players sit out. But you're determined to resent them. When what you should be doing is not giving a shit either way. Their backup QB is a good scholarship player who's going to be their starter next year. That should be good enough.

These are exhibition games that were dreamed up by hustler entrepreneurs so they could make money off them. That's all they ever were and that's all they are today. When you see starting QBs sitting out the 2nd half of playoff games let me know.

 

[sjb75]

So why play at all then?

Google the name Jaylon Smith.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Yeah.

A smart one.

Who needs character right?

 

[sjb75]

After a team loses 3 games, why don't they just shut the whole team down then right? It's all meaningless. Nothing matters. Just look out for yourself. What a culture to be around. Worked out great for FSU....

Tell Joe Alt that.

Email his dad while you are at it.