Brian Kelly lost 6 games the last 4 years (Freeman 4 year predictions?)
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Schedule is MUCH TOUGHER.
OSU SERIES AND TEXAS A&M series coming up.
Ascending USC
The last 3 years schedules have been laughingly poor.
What was Kelly’s record for the last 5 years ?
What’s Kelly’s overall record ?
Do you think that Freeman will have ND going undefeated and playing in the NC in 3 years like Kelly did ?
Lol, you're clueless, 12 years and he was no closer to winning a major bowl game let alone a championship than he was in year 1. If you are too blind to see this I can't help you. You expected Kelly to beat a top 5 OKS that's far more talented than a UC team he failed to beat. Talk about not making sense.
Kelly would have beaten Oklahoma State, Freeman didn’t !
The players lost to UC, NOT Kelly !
Watch the game tape !
Pay what the market allows, but LSU is paying a hefty price for a B level coach. Kelly is not elite , because they good for Kelly for pulling it off, he has an awesome agent.
You know Kelly would have beaten OKS how? Historical data points prove otherwise. Kelly failed in every big game he was presented with in his entire tenure at ND.
Ok Brian "blame the players" Kelly, If that loss was on the players, it was due to a lack of preparation. UC was a better prepared and coached team. OKS is also.
Kelly will be remembered as being the longest tenured coach to not accomplish anything meaningful. Outside of getting laughed out of the stadium in every post season game that mattered his high water mark was either in 2012 beating Oklahoma. Or in the covid year beating Clemson missing a ton of top tier players. That again beat him out of the stadium shortly after in the CCG.
Kelly did a lot of good in making ND better than it was under the 3 coaches before him. But seriously if you are just comparing to Weis, Willingham, and Davie. Then there is no need to discuss it further because your goals for the team and coaching and mine are vastly different.
Kelly did a lot of good in making ND better than it was under the 3 coaches before him. But seriously if you are just comparing to Weis, Willingham, and Davie. Then there is no need to discuss it further because your goals for the team and coaching and mine are vastly different.
Would've, should've, could've. If i had a dollar every time i've heard that, I'd have more money than Kelly's guaranteed contract.
No he won't. He won't be remembered that way. I guess by guys like you and your ilk, which is a damn shame IMO, but it is what it is.
Everyone else is going to remember him as one of the great coaches in his era, who brought ND to the very top of CFB. And made us utterly relevant again for the first time since Lou Holtz. He'll be a first-ballot CFB HOF coach....
That’s about the dumbest comment anyone could make !
I specified “A” coaches we COULD get, NOT coaches we couldn’t get !
NAME the “A” coaches that we COULD get instead ofKelly !
We know one thing for a fact, Freeman lost to a team that he was supposed to beat.
Didn't you say that Kelly beat the teams he was supposed to beat !
You didn’t answer my question, TELL US, exactly how Kelly didn’t prepare the players for the UC game !
YOU continue to be unable to answer my questions.
How much should LSU have paid for an “A” coach?
Give us the dollar amount !
So over 11 years he’s supposed to win EVERY game he’s favored in ?
Miami away +3
Stanford away + 20.5
Michigan away + 1
Cincinnati Home + 2
So it’s your position that over 11 years that Kelly should never lose a game where ND is favored .
Did you hold Holtz, Devine and Ara to that same standard ?
You really are ignorant when it comes to ND football.
it’s a reasonable question given that you stated that LSU paid $ 100,000,000 for a “B” player.
So what dollar amount should they have offered an “A” player ?
Why is it that you have a habit of being unable to answer pointed questions !
I also asked you to specify exactly how Kelly failed to prepare the players for the games they lost and exactly how he failed to prepare his players for the games they won.
YOU FAILED TO ANSWER BOTH QUESTIONS !
WHY ?
That’s certainly possible for a first year coach. Yet I’m hoping it’s many fewer losses. Recruiting will become much more difficult should you be correct. I would expect lots of second guessing and criticism for both MF and staff from both media and this board regardless of how many wins in first year. It’s like a Reacher book. Plan for the worst but hope for the best.
I'm done with you, you keep moving the goal posts. The fact is Kelly was hired to win a championship. He had 12 years to do it and couldn't come close. Sure he made the playoffs, but he was schooled repeatedly by better coaches. He's a good coach he's not a great coach. He'll never win a championship, even at LSU. He could take over Alabama right now and he would still find a way to lose and not win a championship.
If you are so confident in Kelly's coaching abilities, i'll gladly wager that he'll fail to win a championship at LSU where he can shop any aisle he wants.
For Kelly, thanks for getting ND to where we are a top 10-15 team. Now let's hope MF can get us over the top.
Yes, he played 1 top 10 team in 2021 and lost at home
Also, his overall record against top 10 teams. Not very good
Also, his record in major bowl games, not very good
So the evidence and stats say he'd lose that game
Never said we could get an A coach.
Read again dumb dumb
We couldn't get an A coach, so we got a B coach
You’re DEAD WRONG !
Kelly wasn’t hired to win a National Championship !
Kelly was hired to resurrect a program that was in a terrible state of decline for 13 long years, a decline that saw three* other coaches fail miserably to produce a consistent winner..
And, please don’t argue that point because I’m much closer to his hiring than you are !
* four, if you throw in the O’Leary embarrassment
So Kelly was the BEST available coach that ND could get !!
Ergo, you agree with his hiring !
NO he wasn’t and I’m infinitely closer to his hire than you are !
Once again you don’t know what you’re talking about !
His job was to restore the program and to make ND nationally prominent again, to make ND a CONTENDER for National Championships and he succeeded !
OKAY, I‘M GLAD YOU’RE TAKING THE BET.
HOW MUCH ARE YOU BETTING ?
I’LL HOLD THE MONEY ! 😜
We were ranked # 5 at the end of the 2021 season, not 10-15 as you deliberately and dishonestly misrepresented !
Kelly had four top 5 or better rankings in 11 years after taking over a program that hadn’t had a top 5 ranking since 1993, almost 30 years !
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT !
Idk why are the Lakers paying Russell Westbrook 45 million a year?
You act like these schools or teams never make a mistake or overpay players or coaches
That's funny
