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That’s correct.
He was the President when NBC and ND initiated the television contract in 1991
He also played basketball and graduated in 1963
Are you insane? Peacock didn't exist in 1991. The ND/NBC contract was renegotiated in 2023, 18 years after Mini Malloy retired.
I know that you’ve told me that I’m uninformed and know nothing about football, Notre Dame and how to spell, but I’ve known “Monk” since 1961 and I never had to spell his name when we spoke, and I’ve only known Pete Bevacqua since 2001 and again, I never had to spell his name when we spoke.
I entered Notre Dame as a chemical engineering major so I probably should have paid more attention to spelling, now I’ll just have to proof read my posts when I dictate them so that you don’t get confused or miss the gist.
Are you that stupid, where did I state that I discussed the Peacock issue.
I discussed the NBC contract along with the CBS contract with Augusta and how Augusta and not CBS effectively controlled the broadcast, along with the need for Notre Dame to control the broadcast in order to protect the brand. That discussion also included the decision regarding the selection of the announcers.
The Augusta contract with CBS was the blueprint, the template and the Bible for institutional control over the televised product.
The NBC contract also lengthened the games and the commercial time outs often killed momentum on critical drives.
But since you weren’t in attendance and a party to our discussions you don’t have a clue as to what was discussed.
But thanks for sticking your uninformed nose into my exchange's with Echo man !
So you acknowledge then that you have no familiarity at all about the current NBC contract and that your interactions with Father Malloy have absolutely no relevance to this thread.
Again, Monk Malloy did more to inhibit Notre Dame Football than any other President in its history.
IMO, its true.
All you have done on this thread is rail about Peacock. But sure, we are not discussing the Peacock issue. Beyond incongruous.
I would imagine they broadcast on Peacock not simply for high ratings for the game, but to increase their subscription base on Peacock in general in hopes a subset of subscribers don’t unsubscribe after the 1 week. It’s simply added revenue to NBC/Peacock.
Theres just no way that the ratings are higher on peacock compared to broadcasting nationally on NBC. You would think their business model says it’s worth it for lower overall ratings and they’ll take a hit on ad revenue for the week to try to increase the subscription base.
Not true at all, the foundational principles we discussed remain intact.
You on the other hand have absolutely no understanding of the contract with NBC and you have never discussed that contract with anyone at Notre Dame who was or is involved with that contract.
What’s the basis for your opinion?
What facts do you have to support your opinion?
How did Monk Malloy de-emphasize football?
Father Hesburgh firing Frank Leahy represented a significant de-emphasis
I know it’s difficult for you to comprehend the concept,, so let me try and restate it using small words.
Initially, NBC broadcast all games free of charge.
Then they decided to transition one game over to the Peacock division, a pay for play division.
If viewership on Peacock is successful, it won’t be long before NBC decides to broadcast more than one game on Peacock.
Think of the camels nose in the tent as an apt analogy.
So you can be shortsighted and watch the game on Peacock or you can boycott Peacock with the intent of having the Peacock experiment fail.
Notre Dame is a national brand, why limit access and reduce exposure to the national audience?
It’s your choice
I made my decision but you’re perfectly free to encourage the limiting of Notre Dame’s national exposure.
I agree !
So the issue comes down to, whose interests are we most concerned about, NBC’s or Notre Dsme’s ?
Why limit Notre Dame‘s ability to reach the national audience ?
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So you are now backing off your prior claim that you discussed the Peacock deal with Malloy. Got it.
I never stated that I discussed the Peacock deal with Malloy, that was your inference.
You need to bone up on your reading comprehension skills
Here's your post. The bold face is yours. You are a liar.
Patrish
ND Expert
Gold MemberAnd you have no idea with regard to my personal one on one discussions with father Molloy on the NBC contract
You’re a total moron !
That’s exactly what I said
You’ll notice there’s no mention of the Peacock contract.
You should have to pass a minimum IQ test before you’re allowed to post.
Repeat, you’re a total moron !
Learn how to read with some degree of comprehension
No, it’s not that you can’t trust what I say, is that you can’t read and understand what I say.
You lack reading comprehension skills
I was crystal clear in my statements, you are the idiot who jumped to a false conclusion
All of this wailing and gnashing of teeth was in vain. Today, it was announced that NCSU, not Boise St., will be the Peacock game.
www.nbcsports.com
NBC Sports' 2025 Notre Dame football schedule headlined by matchups vs. Texas A&M, Boise State
The Fighting Irish will face some of the top teams in college football throughout NBC Sports' seven-game slate.
www.nbcsports.com
What game Peacock chooses to broadcast is irrelevant to me, I won’t watch any game broadcast on Peacock.All of this wailing and gnashing of teeth was in vain. Today, it was announced that NCSU, not Boise St., will be the Peacock game.
NBC Sports' 2025 Notre Dame football schedule headlined by matchups vs. Texas A&M, Boise State
The Fighting Irish will face some of the top teams in college football throughout NBC Sports' seven-game slate.
If you want to be shortsighted and if you’re unable to comprehend the down range consequences, subscribe to Peacock and suffer the eventual consequences when more and more games are broadcast on Peacock.
Why dig your own grave ?
I want to make sure that I understand what the problem is. The University produces a product, i.e., the football team, and wants to maximize its profits so that it can compete in the current marketplace. To do so, they contract with NBC which, produces a product, i.e., the broadcast of football games, and want to maximize its profits so that it can compete in the current marketplace. NBC then "offloads" a game onto a streaming network and charges for that network.
We, as consumers, can either purchase these products or not. Sure, once upon a time, these products were all free (subject to annoying commercials) but times change. So now some people are suggesting that we boycott NBC altogether in order to force them to capitulate to our demands and, once again, make the products free? Sounds pretty silly to me.
At least for me, boycotting NBC won't have much impact because there really aren't any programs on that network that I really would miss, other than other ND football games and I'm not going to boycott those. If I need to pay an extra $8 - 10 to watch the NCSU game, I'll do it. I just don't understand all the hue and cry.
We, as consumers, can either purchase these products or not. Sure, once upon a time, these products were all free (subject to annoying commercials) but times change. So now some people are suggesting that we boycott NBC altogether in order to force them to capitulate to our demands and, once again, make the products free? Sounds pretty silly to me.
At least for me, boycotting NBC won't have much impact because there really aren't any programs on that network that I really would miss, other than other ND football games and I'm not going to boycott those. If I need to pay an extra $8 - 10 to watch the NCSU game, I'll do it. I just don't understand all the hue and cry.
I never advocated boycotting NBC, just Peacock.
If Peacock gets significant viewership on the sole Notre Dame game they’re broadcasting, it’s only a matter of time before they put more than one game on Peacock.
Hence, I’m not about to help their ratings
But everyone is free to make their own choice
You wrote three paragraphs and didn't come any closer to understanding or elucidating this little situation. If anything what you did was rehash the exact same trite obfuscation that got this whole little shouting match started. ND, or NBC, appears to want to start squeezing their viewership. And they're doing so by creating a pay per view arrangement for the big NC St. game, which is actually a more important game than Boise State, or at least a wash, for what it's worth. Instead of all the games being part of your regular cable package on NBC, amounting to more hard-earned money shelled out on the part of the fans. And in your apparent bewilderment, you have unnecessarily restated how ND has the legal right to do this, and we as consumers have the legal right to not pay. And so what's the problem.
I believe our friend here was saying that in addition to the eight dollars for this one game, that if you don't immediately boycott it, which you evidently are not going to do, ND/NBC will take that as its cue to keep squeezing and squeezing. Taking more money out of your pocket and putting into theirs, which is their prerogative certainly in a society of staunchly maintained private property rights. And which is the central point which you did not address other than saying, incorrectly, and nonsensically, that a boycott wouldn't have much impact because you don't even watch NBC. I think the boycott would only apply to the pay per view game and not all of NBC's programming, first of all, and if 100% of fans did boycott it, they presumably would get the message and discontinue the practice. And that's why you would boycott. IF, and that's a big IF, it meant anything to you at all that ND/NBC was squeezing you more and more, which you are at at least a few pains to emphasize doesn't bother you, whether because of your sufficiently large stores of disposable income, your commitment to the virtues of free market capitalism, or simply because it's too declasse to publicly pout about an additional personal expense like this. And blithely pooh-poohing it and feigning bemusement on social media over such a comparatively trifling expense counts as a cheap and easy form of conspicuous consumption.
Under the current agreement only one game per season will be on Peacock. Down the road who knows ? By that time all games may end up on Peacock as the end of network television as we've all known it is definitely on the horizon. NBC has Peacock. ABC has Hulu and CBS has Paramount+.
Yes. Leahy left on his own accord in 1953 according to everything I've ever read about him. Health issues have always been cited as the primary reason.
That's because there is no separate "Peacock" contract. It's simply a provision of the current NBC contract with Notre Dame.
You don’t know that, it could be an addendum to the NBC Contract as opposed to being incorporated in the NBC contract.
“Everything you’ve heard”. …. That would be a very limited pool of information.
“the primary reason”, what about the other reasons ?
In reality, was the “primary” reason the reason presented to the public ?
I do know that. Sorry to poke holes in your ridiculous assumptions.
