I don't like all the over the top criticism of players and coaches either. I also don't like the insane immature over the top attacks on other posters just for having a differing view. Funny how that part is completely out of sight, out of mind by some of the sheep who follow this board. Perhaps a new board should be created just for current and former coaches and players so they don't have to deal with the average fan. And the big mouths can have their own place to pound each other senseless. That leaves the average fan to discuss what we have all seen and experienced from each game without being talked down to.
As I predicted..And thoughts.
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Really? I've correctly explained it more than a half dozen times. Here's one example....
Cincinnati Bearcats rip Brian Kelly as he leaves to become Notre Dame's new head coach http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...es-notre-dame-new-head-coach-article-1.435605
"He went for the money," Cincy WR Mardy Gilyard told the AP last night. "I'm fairly disgusted with the situation that they let it go for that long."
"The Tuesday before we played Pitt, he was telling us how much he loves it here, how he loves this team, how he loves coaching here and how much his family loves it here," quarterback Tony Pike said.
"I don't like it," Gilyard said. "I feel like there's a little lying going on there. I felt he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay because he told me he was going to be here."
This excerpt is from the BCS NC Saturday presser 72 hours before his eagle interview....
Are you a college coach or has the NFL ever been a desire for you?
COACH BRIAN KELLY: No, and I think when I took the job at Notre Dame, I think I said it was a dream job.... I think from my perspective I've got the best job in the country, NFL, college, high school, whatever.....
After the 'bama massacre he left the team and went dark leading to heavy speculation for days. He finally surfaced with:
"Like every kid who has ever put on a pair of football cleats, I have had thoughts about being a part of the NFL."
There's more...pathetic indeed....
Well ND does not usually play the safeties at that level and certainly they did different things against the option.
The game went as I thought except I was,"hoping" as a ND fan the DB's could of covered better.
The game went as I thought except I was,"hoping" as a ND fan the DB's could of covered better.
Because medication can only help so much? Sorry, just takin a stab in the dark for ya.
One hell of a game and a perfect example of why college football is more exciting to watch than the NFL, in my opinion. Stanford played nearly a mistake free game, and we made some costly mistakes. Kizer's fumble while running with the ball hanging out there in one hand was a huge mistake that cost us three points. Carlisles drop of the pass in the flank where he started to turn and run before he secured the catch was anothe costly mistake that made us settle for a FG instead of a TD. The illegal procedure penalty when we were going for fourth and one deep into the red zone was another costly mistake. The face mask penalty with 25 seconds left was huge and without it, Stanford doesn't get into FG range. Our several instances of blown coverage were mental errors and Hogan took advantage of each one. Not slamming the players as I thought they played a really good game against a quality opponent and they obviously came within one play of the win, just making the point that Stanford made fewer mistakes than we did, and that was the difference in this game which was called and coached well on both sides.
Come on man. Nobody's talking down to anyone and just trying to share some information. You should go to an AFCA convention grown middle aged men with a combined 1000 years of coaching experience. Sitting in a convention room like a bunch of 3rd graders with notebooks while Kirby Smart gives a clinic on Sabans Pattern Match Zone defense
I guess since coaches are information junkies. We assume everyone else is as well. Not my intention to talk down to anyone
LOL. None of that makes Brian Kelly a liar. Unreal how you pull out all the stops to manufacture ways to make BK look bad. You unsuccessfully spin stories and quotes, you take cheap shots at the guy whenever you see the slightest opening.
It's amazing how bad Brian Kelly is in your head. You think or post about him 24/7. He owns you. How does that feel?
Option is a completely different animal. How deep were the safeties yesterday?
kelly called/dialed up a solid game. shaw equaled that and a little bit more. I just don't understand how we are able to rise to certain big occasions (ok, fsu, clemson, multiple stanford...) and play many lesser skilled teams "tight".
PS Stanford/McCaffrey missed Daniel Marx huge last night...
In run downs they were consistently at LB depth and in some cases were near the LOS.
Great versus the run but obviously struggled with the deep ball. I think the plan worked really well. Holding a team like Stanford and a back like McCafferty in check is tough..Just struggled hugging up and covering.
Great versus the run but obviously struggled with the deep ball. I think the plan worked really well. Holding a team like Stanford and a back like McCafferty in check is tough..Just struggled hugging up and covering.
I don't need to pull out any stops. kelly provides all the data points.
Liar yep, vulgar yep, purple faced yep....he'd be a perfect garden gnome character.
If you'd like to debate that last point I will respect your opinion that he wouldn't be a good garden gnome character. I think he'd fit right in.
The bookstore should sell it....
He doesn't own a thing with me....again, he's a lying purple faced vulgar gnome.
Apparently, many here think he's impervious to accurate criticism.
Below are some articles that I guess in your mind are manufactured/cheap shots....
Lastly, I guess his grabbing Grimes was manufactured too.... The man became unglued....
He's praised when he does well and criticized when he doesn't.
I don't care for him...that can possibly change if he does.
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/matthew-archbold/should-notre-dames-coach-be-fired-for-cursing
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...to-be-notre-dames-head-coach?urn=ncaaf,wp5929
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-brian-kelly-notre-dame-spt-1102-20151101-story.html
There is no perfect coach. If you go back to the days of Ara you will see he had games where they just didn't win. Dan Devine and Lou Holtz also had tough losses. All the other coaches in between were bad, period. I mention those 3 because they are the 3 best coaches ND has had during my lifetime. With that said Brian Kelly is the 4th. Not since Holtz have I had this much optimism for the Irish. He has turned a program that was below mediocrity into an elite program. Yes I said elite. For a team to lose as many key players as they did, yet still manage to be in the national championship conversation on the final regular season weekend is nothing short of amazing. They didn't do it with luck or smoke and mirrors. They did with grit, determination, skill and talent. The third being the key. This is the most talent I've seen at ND in years. Are they short in a few areas? Yes. But oach Kelly has done a remrkable job. He knew back in the spring this team was going to be special. What he didn't know is how many would leave or get hurt. Yet with all that,they are 10 and 2. Neither loss is an embarrassment. It happens to the best, even Alabama. I hope coach Kelly stays for many more years. I've seen enough coaching changes to know when you have the right one, you better keep him. Anyway I want to say great job this year to ND players and coaches. It was one of the best seasons I have ever had the pleasure to follow as a fan. Thank you. Go Irish!!
You say coaching mistakes were made but you give no examples of the alleged mistakes. Then you accuse me of being "general".
That's called being hypocritical. Then you say I made "predictions" I answered a question from a poster, I did not make a prediction. Thats called being wrong. Now if me being a coach and sharing football offends you or offends your delicate football forum sensibilities? That sounds like you have some unresolved personal problems. Since I'm not Dr. Phil I'm going put you on ignore as well.
calling yourself coach speaks volumes, and that you're quick to use the "ignore" card says quite a bit as well. Maybe you coach pee wees? Settle down big guy, don't take yourself so serious, it's not very healthy but hey, I"m no doctor Phil either so we have that in common.
they don't count ? how about your boy harbaughs wins at san diego ? do they count ? i see he got schooled saturday by meyer.
pretty hard to point to ONE single thing. games have ebbs and flows. of course in hindsight we'd like some things to be done differently. carlisle catches the ball, easy td. kizer doesn't fumble, likely field goal. kizer ruled down, nd scores with less than 25 seconds to go. no face mask penalty, game likely over, and so on and so on. agreed the future is as bright as its been since the early 90's. cbs sports projecting a nd-fsu peach bowl. that would be something to see especially if golson would start.
Harbaugh has plenty more other experience and big game exerience to fall back on. Kellly doesn't.
What is kelly's biggest NFL win? Biggest bowl win? Biggest in season win?
Compare those 3 questions to Harbaugh's record....
Harbaugh is just getting started at um.
He is a monster coach.
PS shaw is a Harbaugh disciple and was with him at SD. How's he doing....?
Care to expand on you opinion? Funny how you accuse someone for being "general" but give absolutely no detail to your generalization. Please, astound us with you football coaching. knowledge.
You are worthless human garbage -- ISIS would not have you as a member
Yeah, but it's your handles that are regularly tossed. I guess that makes you ongoing board garbage.
btw the lying vulgar purple faced gnome almost crapped the coaching bed again with his piss poor extra point decision. He lucked out that Stanford didn't somewhere along the line kick a FG and make it 38-29.
How would that blown point have looked then?
It must be difficult knowing that you weren't born with the talent or brains to get into Notre Dame.
PS You are often as vulgar as the purple one. Good for you. Please enjoy these 3 cerebral coaching moments from the dip**it.
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Don't have any, but don't claim to. All I know is the players played their hearts out and it seems like they could have been put in a better position to win, had they not gone for two when they did among other things. You'll never see me rip the players but coaches to me should be fair game. Btw, what's the extent of your coaching experience?
We have an above average coach with most often superior game to game playing talent.
The talent differential carried the zero talented HC booger eating smelly fatso to 2 BCS games. Again, the whale almost made it to NC game consideration and had we won the "bush push" game we were likely in the discussion.
So, if perhaps the worst coach in CFB history can get us to the NC doorstep it doesn't take much more to walk through...
That said, kelly is evolving and his behavior since temple looked like he was on medicine. He almost blew his stack against Stanford and was a vulgar pig once again. I hope swarbrick chastised him for it....
Until kelly embraces a jumbo package that can routinely be called on we'll wallow in scoring position. imo That should be the # 1 task he gives Sanford. Our Red Zone performance has been the pits....so has our ability to close out games.....crap /less talented teams seem to weasel their way back far too often....
Heck, without Kizer's heroics our season would have been virtually over in week 2....
If I went into detail you wouldn't understand me, So instead I'll send you off to never never land with all your other anger management buddies, Adios Amigo!!!
Damn, cgvr...can you worry more about what is going on the field than off? Has Nick Saban with his pursed lips ever given a look other than "I am disappointed in you?" - NO! Coaches are coaches and they are emotional...you need to get over that. You may not be old enough to remember what Lou Holtz did on the sidelines but I do - he was a totalitarian.
If you need to be coddled while watching ND play then tape the game and watching it with mommy. If BK's demeanor hurts you so badly then you have never played this game and have serious daddy issues.
First, nick saban does not represent ND in any way, shape or form. Therefore, that example is without merit. Second, I was never a big fan of Holtz and thought some of his antics were deplorable. However, you are going to have to look long and hard to find an F bomb. He despises the word....
Today's media spotlight has never been brighter and kelly reflects poorly on ND every time he opens his often disgusting mouth. His apocalyptic behavior has drawn negative national media attention on multiple occasions. He has embarrassed himself, the school and team.
Would you care to share anything that saban's done that comes close to comparing to the national negative media from kelly's incidents?
You won't be able to....
kelly's ongoing poor behavior spans from the TJ Jones incident to the Grimes incident and everything in between. He's a time bomb. I don't need to be coddled for squat.
kelly should stop behaving like a disgusting dou**e.
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cgvr, I don't want to hurt your feelings or pizz you off. You just can't look at sports the way you do. I remember my sixth grade year in LL baseball getting called on to pitch in extra innings against a team I started against and beat earlier in the year. The game was tied with two outs and I came up to bat with bases loaded. I cracked a line drive for the fences that got caught and was inning over. I had two outs and a runner on second base. My dad was in the stands and still drinking (it was the 70's). The batter stepped up to the plate and I could hear my dad yelling at me "strike that mot#&r fu@$3r out Andy!!!" I stepped off the mound and regained my composure. Dude slapped my pitch into right field and the runner scored...I had to walk home that night. Playing sports is a lot tougher than you think it is and coaches are going to get in your face.
I really don't care to talk Saban. Just brought him up because he is an azz. I do not need to defend BK...just saying you should let three/four/five years go. If you want to hang onto one moment in time four or five years ago then you have things going on other than ND. If you want to bring up things on the sideline after that time then you might be obsessed. Coaches yell...coaches scream...coaches cuss to the high heavens - if you've ever been on the sidelines then you already know that.
Well his Grimes incident happened a month ago. That event caused a media storm/frenzy. Whether you think it's a big deal or not is irrelevant to the national negative exposure it caused. I find anything that draws ND into that kind of national negative light offensive.
Your attempt at personal analytics is underwhelming.
kelly often behaves in despicable and disgusting fashion. That's a fact.
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If purple faced refers to 2011, and lying refers to talking about future coaching moves, both of those are pretty lame. It's basically impossible not to lie when people start asking questions about a job you might have an interest in. That's unfortunately how the coaching change game game works. Nick Saban said he was not taking the Akabama job every day for a month. Right up to the day he was announced.
You are free to despise the guy all you want though. He does cuss like a sailor. You can run with that one.
Wrong. He's been vulgar and purple faced far more often than that one incident. Don't play dumb as if he's done nothing since 2011. It's been ongoing. We're fortunate there were guys that stepped in to separate him from Grimes. Kelly lost his mind and was escalating. Since then he has appeared like he's on Valium until a moment against Stanford.
As for his lying, I have written often that he is in desperate need of PR training. He never knows when shut his mouth. Examples range from belittling his non ND recruits to making racist comments at a prior job. There's plenty more. When he was asked about the NFL a simple, "I am focusing on the most important game of my life and will only answer questions about that" or something along those lines would suffice. Instead he spins a stupid ass tale....
In addition, his leaving his undefeated cinci team in the lurch while lying about it was probably the worst move I have ever seen a HC make. It's unheard of, but tells you all you need top know about him. Also, he couldn't get out of town fast enough to interview for the Eagles. He's a merc.
If you think for a moment that another coach's poor behavior excuses kelly's you'd be wrong....
I can remember watching Lou practically punch an asst. coach that got on the field to set up an extra point when he wanted to go for two. And, wasn't it Urban Meyer who blew up on a reporter a few years ago while he was still at UF? Not trying to say they are wrong but coaches do that sometimes. It's easy to sit back and keep score...it's a whole other thing to be in the line of fire. I respect those living in the line of fire much more than those that sit back and critique.
