You would rather win an internet message board squabble with Golson than see ND go to the playoffs and have a great season.
NDNJ isn’t to blame IMO. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. I realize you advocate for Golson at every turn in this Forum; however, the truth is again, somewhere in the middle.
Counting Navy, who got their collective asses kicked by crappy Rice yesterday, as a Top 25 win is a bit much for me.
I count currently-ranked teams, personally. Because think about it - if you beat a team in Week 1 that was ranked then, and they end up going 4-8, then it turned out they were overrated and shouldn't have been ranked in the first place.
If you think Army is a quality opponent you are more of a moron than what I thought. Last week you were spouting how A&M was a top 10 win, so much for that. You think you know, but you don't know sh1t. You're an imbecile.
You're an idiot as well. You don't know sh1t either because you are too far up Golson5's a$$, or you are him. Either way you are a loser.
11-1 gets us if the playoffs. Nothing changes w the A&M loss.
Well......they are undefeated and they didn't lose to N.IL
Rankings change every week. Am has a bye and will win their next 2 games and be right around 10 before they play Texas. Very quality team and win. One of the best wins of the season
Awww he's triggered again! 🤣🤣
The truth likely is somewhere in the middle as you suggest, but IrishMike has been pretty consistent of late simply asking for civility and posts limited to discussing ND football. I personally appreciate his Don Quixote efforts, but accept that name calling deriding posts are part of our free forum. Each of us has the choice to read or not read these posts, or to put the poster on ignore, and I’m fine with that.
Army, like Navy, has no business being ranked in the top 25.
I have philosophical ambivalence about that. Firstly, all such considerations and musings only draw attention to the futility and folly of having polls at all. They are antithetical to sport and competition. However, if you're stuck with them, I'm not sure how you should think about that. I think I disagree with you. What matters is where they're ranked at the end of the season. Especially if a team ends up like 7-5 or something. What does it matter if they were like, 4-0 when you played them? Even worse is how ranked teams load up on cupcake noncon opponents to start the year, so of course they will coast on their preseason ranking before getting exposed and finding their proper level. But the one mitigating factor is the fact that you defeated a team caused them to drop in the polls. And I don't know what to make of that. But it's not really that significant. If it wasn't ND that beat them somebody else probably would have....
Any 8-0 team from a G5 conference will start moving into the rankings at this point of the season. That's pretty normal.
I'm not arguing they have any great wins. Just saying it's very normal for undefeated G5 teams to start moving into the rankings by now. It happens every year.
Regardless if you think they deserve it or not, they are ranked in the top 25
I dont know there is single measure here.....Where you are ranked, who you play, when you played them. I'm sure we have all been on a team with high expectations and a loss or two, you move on and maybe lose a bit of motivation. Today, you see players opting out early...sitting....saving a year.........There is also injuries that happen as the year goes on....so maybe a team you play early is much better. Was FSU the same after their QB went out last year? So, I think the only thing you can go by is what they were ranked when you play them. Not perfect, but for what you win early, you lose late. Both FSU and USC were top teams....Army and Navy were not. It all balanced out by doing it when you play them.
Its strange, Army has played the same schedule as IU who is ranked ahead of us....
4 top 25......A&M, Louisville, Navy and Army......All ranked when we played them unless Army loses this weekend.
Their schedules are not even close to comparable. IU has beaten six P4 teams. Army has beaten zero.
When you get the crap kicked out of you by shitty Rice, and you have defeated no one that’s any good, yes, you can make an educated guess Navy won’t make the top 25.
You're a USC troll that comes to sh!tpost on a ND message board...Pesky facts they get in the way...🙄
Calling Army a quality win is idiotic. Army is a paper top 25 team. They have zero business being ranked in the top 25. Their schedule alone should preclude them from being ranked.
I'm not trying to prop anything up. What I think is irrelevant. Just like what you think is irrelevant
TAM is indeed a quality win. Louisville as well. Calling Navy a quality win is a joke. And Army is no different than Navy.
