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QB Recruiting is a part of the problem too. The QB room is light. That’s on Rees.

Imagine if they weren’t able to bring Coan in last season. What was plan B? Buchner or Pyne?
While I agree on QB light, I totally disagree that it’s on Rees.

if anything it’s on Kelly and his non-pro style offense.

Kelly recruited for HIS offense.
 
If he doesn't part ways with TR then that is a huge mistake on his part and shows he is in over his head. If he does part ways and makes a good hire then there is hope.
Rees needs to go coach out of his safety net. He needs to experience new places new staffs etc. or he will never grow. Lifers at one school are generally not coordinators. They’re usually position coach guys.
 
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He went to the playoffs as a soph and had his highest passer rating that year. His passer rating went down as a junior and sr
You’re beyond clueless.

But, I’ll help you out by providing a clue

CLUE: Giants Super Bowl victory over the undefeated Patriots and the GOAT.
 
Right,

I’m exponentially more informed and significantly closer to the University than you, oh clueless one !
Yeah thats right... You told us Jack was not going to hire one of the assistants to be the next head coach. You said you knew the inner workings and you listened to Jacks pc and there was no way he was going to hire MF

You were right again !
 
Yeah thats right... You told us Jack was not going to hire one of the assistants to be the next head coach. You said you knew the inner workings and you listened to Jacks pc and there was no way he was going to hire MF

You were right again !
I’ll repeat, I’m more informed and significantly closer to the University than you, and, I’m a lot smarter than you …….. not that that takes too many points on the IQ scale.

Jack said that he wasn’t going to hire one of the assistants to be an interim HC, despite my recommendation that he do just that..

You know nothing about Notre Dame football !
Strike that, you know nothing about football, period !
 
I’ll repeat, I’m more informed and significantly closer to the University than you, and, I’m a lot smarter than you …….. not that that takes too many points on the IQ scale.

Jack said that he wasn’t going to hire one of the assistants to be an interim HC, despite my recommendation that he do just that..

You know nothing about Notre Dame football !
Strike that, you know nothing about football, period !
Your recommendation ! HAHAHA

I remember arguing with you. You said no chance he hires MF as next coach. I said that was going to be the next coach.

You were so wrong like you usual are

Your recommendation! HAHAHA
 
I’ll repeat, I’m more informed and significantly closer to the University than you, and, I’m a lot smarter than you …….. not that that takes too many points on the IQ scale.

Jack said that he wasn’t going to hire one of the assistants to be an interim HC, despite my recommendation that he do just that..

You know nothing about Notre Dame football !
Strike that, you know nothing about football, period !
Are you the offensive analyst nd keeps talking about? Makes sense why our offense is so bad
 
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I've also been told Rees in particular has been rather hostile to his players during practice, notably trying to be the biggest SOB, seemingly for the sake of being the biggest SOB. That camera shot of him chewing out Pyne from the booth during the Cal game is just a hint of that. I was told that has created a rift amongst the team. The offensive guys are not happy with it. It's one thing to be constructively criticized for a mistake in practice. It's another thing to be outright humiliated in front of your teammates. Apparently Rees takes it there. Freeman needs to be a head coach and reign him in. It's clearly not productive. He also needs to start planning on Rees' replacement, which I'm sure he is.
 
I've also been told Rees in particular has been rather hostile to his players during practice, notably trying to be the biggest SOB, seemingly for the sake of being the biggest SOB. That camera shot of him chewing out Pyne from the booth during the Cal game is just a hint of that. I was told that has created a rift amongst the team. The offensive guys are not happy with it. It's one thing to be constructively criticized for a mistake in practice. It's another thing to be outright humiliated in front of your teammates. Apparently Rees takes it there. Freeman needs to be a head coach and reign him in. It's clearly not productive. He also needs to start planning on Rees' replacement, which I'm sure he is.
Who told you that ?

Isn‘t that what Holtz did ?

Are coaches now required to get down on their knees and beg the players to perform ?
 
Your recommendation ! HAHAHA

I remember arguing with you. You said no chance he hires MF as next coach. I said that was going to be the next coach.

You were so wrong like you usual are

Your recommendation! HAHAHA
I never wanted MF named as HC and made my feelings known.

As to Rees, you know nothing about the situation, choosing to posture your uninformed speculation as fact
 
I never wanted MF named as HC and made my feelings known.

As to Rees, you know nothing about the situation, choosing to posture your uninformed speculation as fact
No. You said you knew Jack wouldn't hire MF. You were wrong like usual. But you had inside information. How could you be so misinformed??
 
I've also been told Rees in particular has been rather hostile to his players during practice, notably trying to be the biggest SOB, seemingly for the sake of being the biggest SOB. That camera shot of him chewing out Pyne from the booth during the Cal game is just a hint of that. I was told that has created a rift amongst the team. The offensive guys are not happy with it. It's one thing to be constructively criticized for a mistake in practice. It's another thing to be outright humiliated in front of your teammates. Apparently Rees takes it there. Freeman needs to be a head coach and reign him in. It's clearly not productive. He also needs to start planning on Rees' replacement, which I'm sure he is.
I would be completely fine if Rees lit up players in practice. No clue what coaxhing style and plan is used in practice for offense and D but it’s not working. We have the second worst red zone defense in division one football. Let that sink in for the defense is good homers
 
I would be completely fine if Rees lit up players in practice. No clue what coaxhing style and plan is used in practice for offense and D but it’s not working. We have the second worst red zone defense in division one football. Let that sink in for the defense is good homers
He does. Apparently it's a problem
 
Really,

Show me concrete evidence that Kelly, NOT Rees was calling all of the plays in prior years.

You and some of the others are the clueless ones.
Man you are clueless. I never said he was calling the plays, but I guarantee, he was directly involved in the gameplan and had his thumb on the play calling. A little common sense goes a long way. By the way, have you noticed that you argue with a lot of people on this board? You are kind of like the woman who is on her third divorce but it can't be her.
 
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This game again really highlighted the ineptitude of Tommy Rees. 2 blocked punts, the favorable field position that the offense started with pretty much the entire game, and only 44 points to show for it. Rees is the Achilles heel of this team, from a scheme/game planning standpoint as well as a coaching the players standpoint. I believe the defense has been playing well enough to win all season (I'll admit not elite like we've been used to). I think Marcus parts ways with Rees at the end of the season. At least I'm hoping.
ND needs a QB period.

You put any QB from the top 10 teams on this team and ND is undefeated.
 
Why does the failure of the players to execute fall on Reese’s shoulders ?

Please explain that to us !
It falls on Rees for failure to recruit top notch QBs. Pyne is clearly not very good. He starts off slow. Sometime 2 quarters slow. That puts ND behind the eight ball. Rees calls those plays and Pyne can't execute but it falls on Rees who is the developer of Pyne. Same with Buchner before injury. Both lack total poise and takeover abilities. That's on Tommy! We can make all the excuses for him we want. But his play calling in redzone cost ND on many trips to not score. Like these fellas said, Rees was given great advantage in this game and 3 FGs in that close of area is unacceptable and inept gamecalling.
 
I would be completely fine if Rees lit up players in practice. No clue what coaxhing style and plan is used in practice for offense and D but it’s not working. We have the second worst red zone defense in division one football. Let that sink in for the defense is good homers
Yes, I am fine with discipline. But there are boundaries to be able to do that effectively vs. plain humiliating a player in front of his team. I played under a number of coaches who knew how to discipline and we all got better as a result. I will always remember this one coach I had who consistently crossed lines and went overboard. We all hated the guy and it drove a stake through the heart of our team. It seems like that is potentially happening with the offense.
 
It falls on Rees for failure to recruit top notch QBs. Pyne is clearly not very good. He starts off slow. Sometime 2 quarters slow. That puts ND behind the eight ball. Rees calls those plays and Pyne can't execute but it falls on Rees who is the developer of Pyne. Same with Buchner before injury. Both lack total poise and takeover abilities. That's on Tommy! We can make all the excuses for him we want. But his play calling in redzone cost ND on many trips to not score. Like these fellas said, Rees was given great advantage in this game and 3 FGs in that close of area is unacceptable and inept gamecalling.
I believe 6 times that ND got the ball in the first half it was in UNLV territory. That should have been 42 points going into the half at least.
 
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Man you are clueless. I never said he was calling the plays, but I guarantee, he was directly involved in the gameplan and had his thumb on the play calling. A little common sense goes a long way. By the way, have you noticed that you argue with a lot of people on this board? You are kind of like the woman who is on her third divorce but it can't be her.
Yes, I have noticed that I engage in debates that are sometimes contentious, but that’s because there are so many morons putting forth absurd opinions, like you implying that Kelly called the plays in previous years.

if Kelly had his thumb on prior year play calling, how do you know what plays Kelly called and which plays Rees called ? The fact is that you don’t have a clue about play calling in previous years.

Now let’s talk about the game plan.
Since you’re so well informed tell us, exactly, what we’re the game plans for each game.
Then tell us what percentage of the game plan each coach was responsible for..

Then tell us what adjustments were made and by which coaches during the games.

The fact is that you don’t know, the fact is that your opinion is pure speculation absent verifiable sources.
 
Yes, I have noticed that I engage in debates that are sometimes contentious, but that’s because there are so many morons putting forth absurd opinions, like you implying that Kelly called the plays in previous years.

if Kelly had his thumb on prior year play calling, how do you know what plays Kelly called and which plays Rees called ? The fact is that you don’t have a clue about play calling in previous years.

Now let’s talk about the game plan.
Since you’re so well informed tell us, exactly, what we’re the game plans for each game.
Then tell us what percentage of the game plan each coach was responsible for..

Then tell us what adjustments were made and by which coaches during the games.

The fact is that you don’t know, the fact is that your opinion is pure speculation absent verifiable sources.
How about your opinion that JS wouldnt hire MF as coach? How were your sources on that one?
 
This game again really highlighted the ineptitude of Tommy Rees. 2 blocked punts, the favorable field position that the offense started with pretty much the entire game, and only 44 points to show for it. Rees is the Achilles heel of this team, from a scheme/game planning standpoint as well as a coaching the players standpoint. I believe the defense has been playing well enough to win all season (I'll admit not elite like we've been used to). I think Marcus parts ways with Rees at the end of the season. At least I'm hoping.
The defense is doing tremendously well considering the offense is absolutely positively not helping matters whatsoever.

It's much easier to play defense faster, more free and calm etc when your offense is scoring quickly and or scoring a lot no matter long drive or not.


The wrong QB is playing...

A perfect continuation of Brian Kelly. Perfect. He was the master of a disastrous QB depth chart...

The running back sutuation is a mess. Estime needs to be the guy. Fix his fumble issues abd give him 27 carries a game but nnnooooooo...
We have to throw more. Why Tommy? We just do!!

The receivers run routes just short of first downs.


When the pocket breaks down the receivers just stand and watch. Nobody breaks off their route and slips behind the D or comes back to the QB.

It's amateur hour on offense and it's absolutely pathetic.

High school teams are better coached on offense.
 
Yes, I have noticed that I engage in debates that are sometimes contentious, but that’s because there are so many morons putting forth absurd opinions, like you implying that Kelly called the plays in previous years.

if Kelly had his thumb on prior year play calling, how do you know what plays Kelly called and which plays Rees called ? The fact is that you don’t have a clue about play calling in previous years.

Now let’s talk about the game plan.
Since you’re so well informed tell us, exactly, what we’re the game plans for each game.
Then tell us what percentage of the game plan each coach was responsible for..

Then tell us what adjustments were made and by which coaches during the games.

The fact is that you don’t know, the fact is that your opinion is pure speculation absent verifiable sources.
My inside sources tell me that JS will not hire MF. Wonder who exactly blurted out that statement...
 
The defense is doing tremendously well considering the offense is absolutely positively not helping matters whatsoever.

It's much easier to play defense faster, more free and calm etc when your offense is scoring quickly and or scoring a lot no matter long drive or not.


The wrong QB is playing...

A perfect continuation of Brian Kelly. Perfect. He was the master of a disastrous QB depth chart...

The running back sutuation is a mess. Estime needs to be the guy. Fix his fumble issues abd give him 27 carries a game but nnnooooooo...
We have to throw more. Why Tommy? We just do!!

The receivers run routes just short of first downs.


When the pocket breaks down the receivers just stand and watch. Nobody breaks off their route and slips behind the D or comes back to the QB.

It's amateur hour on offense and it's absolutely pathetic.

High school teams are better coached on offense.
Per our secret know it all informant "pattycakes" this is all on the players. Coaches, especially tommy are not responsible for this offensive debacle.
 
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Anyone catch the Clemson - Syracuse game? DJ was struggling, Clemson down 21-10 in the 3rd, Dabo sends in true freshman Cade Klubnik, who lights it up and Clemson wins. Granted, Cade was a 5* recruit out of TX, but the point is, the elite coaching staffs aren't afraid to plug in backups or freshman when things aren't going well.

With Pyne struggling how does Freeman or Rees not say hey, let's give Angeli a shot, maybe he'll change the game. Sure it can backfire, but with the season the way it's going and a struggling offense there's not much risk, but potentially a huge upside.
 
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Anyone catch the Clemson - Syracuse game? DJ was struggling, Clemson down 21-10 in the 3rd, Dabo sends in true freshman Cade Klubnik, who lights it up and Clemson wins. Granted, Cade was a 5* recruit out of TX, but the point is, the elite coaching staffs aren't afraid to plug in backups or freshman when things aren't going well.

With Pyne struggling how does Freeman or Rees not say hey, let's give Angeli a shot, maybe he'll change the game. Sure it can backfire, but with the season the way it's going and a struggling offense there's not much risk, but potentially a huge upside.
he was 2 for 4 for 19 yards and rushed for 15 yards


Clemson won due to dumb cuse penalty on 3rd and long (remember why we lost to Georgia at home in 2017), and they gave up long run to shipley. Klubnik is talented but he didn't do anything.
 
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he was 2 for 4 for 19 yards and rushed for 15 yards


Clemson won due to dumb cuse penalty on 3rd and long (remember why we lost to Georgia at home in 2017), and they gave up long run to shipley. Klubnik is talented but he didn't do anything.
It energized the offense. stats are meaningless. The offense played better when he went in, even if for a series. It woke the offense up.
 
There’s an inherent and substantive difference between designing and calling plays and executing those plays.

That you and BGI User 1596 don’t understand that speaks to your lack of a football IQ

In addition, he was HIGHLY successful in prior years, so what changed this year, and don’t give us the B.S. that BK was calling plays in prior years.

This year’s team is lacking in execution !

Only a total moron lacking a football IQ thinks it’s the OC’s fault when a player drops a pass or goes offsides. That would be you and BGI user 1596.

OUCH !
Oh okay. BK had nothing to do with it. Obviously - just look at the results.
 
It energized the offense. stats are meaningless. The offense played better when he went in, even if for a series. It woke the offense up.
stats are meaningless? The offense wasn't humming under him, they got bailed out. They offense had one huge play that had nothin to due with him, and another roughing the passer penalty on cuse.
 
We should've probably scored 60 on that team, with the field position we had all game. But nevertheless, it's a good win, and hopefully the team will come out ready to play @ Syracuse Saturday.

But Pyne didn't have a great game. 14/28, 205 yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT. Those are middling stats vs. a mediocre G5 opponent. This is the 2nd week in a row he's been around a 50% completion pct. That's not good enough. In his first 3 starts, he had a very good completion pct, so not sure what's happened these last two games.
 
Per our secret know it all informant "pattycakes" this is all on the players. Coaches, especially tommy are not responsible for this offensive debacle.
It's definitely not a secret that he doesn't understand how that all works.
 
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Anyone catch the Clemson - Syracuse game? DJ was struggling, Clemson down 21-10 in the 3rd, Dabo sends in true freshman Cade Klubnik, who lights it up and Clemson wins. Granted, Cade was a 5* recruit out of TX, but the point is, the elite coaching staffs aren't afraid to plug in backups or freshman when things aren't going well.

With Pyne struggling how does Freeman or Rees not say hey, let's give Angeli a shot, maybe he'll change the game. Sure it can backfire, but with the season the way it's going and a struggling offense there's not much risk, but potentially a huge upside.
This☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ x1000

Playing Angeli does many things.
You NEED to see what you have in Angeli. It's absolutely paramount and 10 of 100 quick reasons why..
#1 ....
in a season lost it's really a great opportunity to see what you have in Angeli. How good he is or could be and or not so much.

#2 ..... see #1

#3 ..... you need to know what Angeli can or can't do thus figuring out the future of the QB position.
Knowing the true capabilities of Angeli helps out with recruiting. You either pitch having a mayday at QB and need help immediately or you can take a breath and allow the QB depth chart disaster to fix itself. ( it's still messed up from the Wimbush too long/book too long ordeal.

#4 ... The QB cycle needs fixed immediately and playing Angeli helps that cause. The ideal cycle is a 2 year QB cycle. They observe for 2 years and learn, then start for 2 years.
Rinse and repeat. That's the goal and it could all start with Angeli/Carr.

#5....
You can say to the Carr kid enroll in 24.
He can learn and play backup under Angeli for a year.
If Angeli is decent enough he probably leaves after junior season and Carr steps in with a year of learning under his belt. (Better than starting him as a true freshman)
Carr plays 2 years and leaves and then player X steps in...the proper cycle is fixed once again
Win, win, win for the QB you're recruiting to the program itself

#6 .... see #4 again...
the cycle gets fixed(most important)

#7 .... we play a QB with real QB size again. God forbid eh`

#8 ... if Angeli is bad...really bad...
Now you've got a mayday.
It changes the pitch to Carr or any other top QB recruit and or tactic (portal)
Thus we fix the cycle with Carr and a recruit TBD

#9 Buchner is NOT the answer
#10 Pyne is better than Buchner and definitely not the answer. Pyne at his best is an OK servicable QB.



P.S.


#11... the MOST important part of all this....
If the OC position is not fixed the QB situation will only get so good.
 
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