This game again really highlighted the ineptitude of Tommy Rees. 2 blocked punts, the favorable field position that the offense started with pretty much the entire game, and only 44 points to show for it. Rees is the Achilles heel of this team, from a scheme/game planning standpoint as well as a coaching the players standpoint. I believe the defense has been playing well enough to win all season (I'll admit not elite like we've been used to). I think Marcus parts ways with Rees at the end of the season. At least I'm hoping.
Although we won . . .
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If he doesn't part ways with TR then that is a huge mistake on his part and shows he is in over his head. If he does part ways and makes a good hire then there is hope.
Why does the failure of the players to execute fall on Reese’s shoulders ?
Please explain that to us !
If you read the post, he tells you why. Because hes in charge of the sorry a$$ offense, thats WHY. Its his JOB to get the team to execute plays. What part of being a coach don't you understand?
It’s Tommy’s job to recruit, develop and then game plan and get players to execute. He’s been involved long enough to expect better and can’t make excuses about the bare cupboard he inherited since he was involved in stocking it. Even Buchner did not appear the slightest bit ready to play not just st Columbus but at home vs Marshall.
A top level OC is needed when your HC is a defensive coordinator. When Narduzzi hired Whipple he turned Pitt and KP into one of the best offenses in the country.
A top level OC is needed when your HC is a defensive coordinator. When Narduzzi hired Whipple he turned Pitt and KP into one of the best offenses in the country.
There’s an inherent and substantive difference between designing and calling plays and executing those plays.
That you and BGI User 1596 don’t understand that speaks to your lack of a football IQ
In addition, he was HIGHLY successful in prior years, so what changed this year, and don’t give us the B.S. that BK was calling plays in prior years.
This year’s team is lacking in execution !
Only a total moron lacking a football IQ thinks it’s the OC’s fault when a player drops a pass or goes offsides. That would be you and BGI user 1596.
OUCH !
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Rees deserves a lot of criticism for our QB recruiting and development as our OC and QB position coach. Our offensive game plans clearly reflect the limitations of our QB. Our pedantic game plans notwithstanding, I can’t recall another top college football program with starting QB’s missing so many wide open sure TD passes. Buchner missing a wide open Lenzy against Marshall; Pyne missing a wide open Lenzy and Merriweather against Stanford; Pyne missing a wide open Tyree Yesterday. All sure TD’s that might have changed the outcome of two of our losses. Yesterday’s game was a much needed win, but not a well played game. We left way too many points on the field against a far inferior opponent. Pyne will likely never experience another game with so much time provided to pass, and yet he underperformed, and once again showed his propensity to lock in on Mayer as his first, second, and third option. I’m sure Styles once again dropping a well delivered pass in the open contributes to this. Scoring 44 points yesterday is fools gold. Syracuse and Clemson and USC will kick our ass if our Offense plays like we did yesterday.
Maybe, it is not pyne. He scholly offers from everybody. It appears as mentioned in the past QB's regress under TR. If I was Freeman than it woyld be a good move to get an OC right now.
It is easy to tame plann against ND all you have to do is load the box, double mayer and sqwat on five to 10 yard routes. I do not see any slant passes even though other teams use them. I do not see pump fakes than go with a fly pattern. BK was an offensive guy, MF is not. Just to score 16 against Stanford is beyond pathetic
It is easy to tame plann against ND all you have to do is load the box, double mayer and sqwat on five to 10 yard routes. I do not see any slant passes even though other teams use them. I do not see pump fakes than go with a fly pattern. BK was an offensive guy, MF is not. Just to score 16 against Stanford is beyond pathetic
Wrong again grasshopper. Everyone with a clue knew that BK was pulling the strings for tommy turnover, and THAT is the difference.
QB's have regressed the last 12 years, under BK. I agree Freeman needs to rid himself of Rees. Rees has done little in recruiting, and QB development.
The posters on here can say all they want about this being the same team that went 11-1 last season, but it's not. Coan was a 5th year grad student they brought in from the portal, Kyren Williams WAS THE RB, two critical pieces of the offense, that have not been replaced. Anyone putting the blame on MF for lack of recruiting and development on the offensive side of the ball doesn't understand football and is shortsighted.
Freeman could end up being a complete dud, but we can't make that assessment after 1 season when your starting QB in his first true season went down, and the back up QB clearly had very little development in the time he's been at ND.
Sounds like it’s personal for you. Angriest poster on the board.
Everyone here agrees that Tommy isn’t performing.
Do you think Freeman will have the autonomy to move on from Rees this off-season? Whoever “hired” Rees (it wasn’t Freeman)…..will MF need that person to green-light moving on from Rees?
And I don’t think ND would ever “fire” Tom Rees. They’d give him the opportunity to find a new job, and he’d move on.
Really? Not personal at all. TT sucked at QB and he sucks as OC. Not everyone agrees, at least not Pattycakeirish
Yes, really. It’s clearly personal. Settle down. Relax. Rees will be gone next season. Everyone knows it.
TR is a bad college OC. He's trying to run an nfl type offense in college. It's too complicated for the qb and it's making us look slow.
I hope so. I don't know it to be true yet. It will be MFs biggest decision in his young career.
Perfectly said- biggest decision of Freeman’s career. And he’ll have to decide quick, when the season ends.
If I’m MF, I move on from Rees. It’s aggressive, but I think it’s necessary. Rees just hasn’t gotten it done with the QBs, and it’s too risky to bring him back next season. The position continues to be unsettled, and it has to get fixed.
Do you count Book’s success as a result of Rees developing him?
I move on as well. Get a college type offense that is exciting and qb friendly
I put Books success on Rees and Kelly. But i think he was best as a sophomore and didn't really improve either
See, I thought he was damn good as a senior. I always felt like he’d make a play when we needed him to. Vs Clemson was apex Ian Book. He made plays that night.
Back to Rees- it’s disheartening, but MF has to do what’s best for the program, and that likely means moving on from Rees. The underwhelming success at the QB position…..I can’t get past. We have to start “winning” there, and having guys at the position that can go on the road and win Top-10 games.
Because if you ask what is wrong it’s not as much about execution - ie, Pyne not finding open man or overthrows or missed blocks - as it is coaching. Rees continues to be predictable. Teams know they crowd the box n stuff the run n they will win They key on Mayer. They can leave every receiver alone I mean it’s so bad that execution is a far less problem. Marist n Pyne continue to play. That’s on coaching Does that help?
QB Recruiting is a part of the problem too. The QB room is light. That’s on Rees.
Imagine if they weren’t able to bring Coan in last season. What was plan B? Buchner or Pyne?
Interesting back and forth about Rees. Not at all clear to me whether game Planning by Rees has been dictated by the type of QB and their limitations, or whether Rees is in fact imposing an NFL pocket offense on the team. We absolutely saw a good Sample of today’s college offense in the first half against Ok St, and that was with a pretty immobile QB with a good arm. I understand why we didn’t see this against Ohio St in our first game, but expected this with a Buchner against Marshal, and the whole team played with lack of urgency, and our OL stunk. Once Pyne became the QB, it seems his limitations, or Rees lack of trust in him, are dictating what we do on offense.
So, I continue to think Rees has done a really poor job recruiting and developing the QB position. Lots of so called near misses, but that does not change the fact we haven’t had elite QB talent during His tenure as QB coach and OC, and he owns this.
So, I continue to think Rees has done a really poor job recruiting and developing the QB position. Lots of so called near misses, but that does not change the fact we haven’t had elite QB talent during His tenure as QB coach and OC, and he owns this.
Per usual- great post Telx. I’ve been asking the same thing: where is the pace and creativity and spacing that we saw vs Oklahoma State?
The variable, I guess, is Coan.
Really,
Show me concrete evidence that Kelly, NOT Rees was calling all of the plays in prior years.
You and some of the others are the clueless ones.
Patty is a lot closer to the program than you are and you’re the one without a clue.
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You’re certain that’s the case?
If that’s true, then it’s a major major problem, and Freeman should want out.
I’m beyond certain, I’m super positive.
The decision, if any, will be the result of a collective process.
Why would Freeman want out ?
HINT: TR’s contract is NOT between Freeman and Rees.
That’s unfortunate. Should really be Freeman’s call. Input from Jack, but ultimately, Freeman’s call.
He went to the playoffs as a soph and had his highest passer rating that year. His passer rating went down as a junior and sr
That’s beyond absurd !
On the field, it’s SOLELY about the players execution !
Tell me, how is it that it’s the coaches who are responsible for lack of execution this year and they’re coaching the same players who played and were highly successful executing for the past few years ?
Are the coaches telling the veteran players NOT to execute ?
