This is NOT what I said nor am I advocating for that.Yep. If Notre Dame gets selected for the playoffs I hope Kelly turns it down to play in a lesser bowl.
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This is NOT what I said nor am I advocating for that.Yep. If Notre Dame gets selected for the playoffs I hope Kelly turns it down to play in a lesser bowl.
I’m a former athlete too. Mid Major college basketball. No reason to be insulted.as a former player i find the question insulting. I will always choose the opportunity to win a championship.
Yep. If Notre Dame gets selected for the playoffs I hope Kelly turns it down to play in a lesser bowl.
What do you think?
Pretty simple really.
SEC Champion guaranteed a spot.
Clemson guaranteed a spot. (They aren't losing with that schedule)
Big 10 Champion guaranteed a spot. (Wisconsin or Ohio State aren't losing 2 games)
PAC 12 is out already.
It comes down to Oklahoma, Notre Dame and maybe a second SEC team.
Oklahoma needs to lose a game before the Big 12 championship game otherwise they are in over ND. If Oklahoma loses before then i believe ND is next in line, unless the 1 loss team is LSU and their only loss is to Bama. Then its a toss up. LSU at 11-1 vs Notre Dame at 11-1.
“The way Hurts is playing they aren't leaving them out of the playoff”
Funny how there’s a microscope on certain qbs and others get their mistakes and bad decisions and/or throws get swept under the rug by some here. I watched every play of that game and if book had played the game that hurts did against Texas, he’d be drawn & quartered by some of you. That’s if you were using the same microscope, that doesn’t always happen on this board. He made some plays w/ his feet but was just average at best throwing the ball. Had it not been for ceedee lamb, they lose. That guy should be in the heisman race, he’s one the best players, forget wrs, in the country.
For example I absolutely believe the committee will hold last year against us. They will say it won’t but I believe if LSU has 1 loss and were 11-1 we are out. Probably for some other reasons too but say next year we come off a ny6 bowl win we wouldn’t be as easy to dismiss. JMO
It all depends on who and how the 1 loss happens. ND has one loss when they had a shot to win at the end in the most hostile environment that will be played in this year.1-loss LSU gets in over 1-loss ND, and it has nothing to do with last year. 1-loss Clemson getting in over 1-loss ND would likely have something to do with previous years.
Watch this....... watch this........ watch this. Unless your team is unhealthy (stud player out most likely QB). If you lose your conference championship game on a neutral site, you just showed you aren't even the best team in your conference. losing on a neutral site is worse than losing at someone else's house, at night, crazy environment if both teams are equal. LSU loses to Georgia on neutral site you think it is a better loss than ND losing to Georgia, in athens at night?try convincing UGA fans ND should get in! ND gets a spot by virtue of?
make-a case!
LSU loses to Bama in a CCG! ND gets a birth?
make a case!
Bama loses in CCG samething, make a case!
Oklahoma, same thing
Oregon finishes p12 champ with 1 loss! and ND fans think ND is more deserving? make the case!
Watch this....... watch this........ watch this. Unless your team is unhealthy (stud player out most likely QB). If you lose your conference championship game on a neutral site, you just showed you aren't even the best team in your conference. losing on a neutral site is worse than losing at someone else's house, at night, crazy environment if both teams are equal. LSU loses to Georgia on neutral site you think it is a better loss than ND losing to Georgia, in athens at night?
LSU can't lose to Bama in CCG. They are in the same division.try convincing UGA fans ND should get in! ND gets a spot by virtue of?
make-a case!
LSU loses to Bama in a CCG! ND gets a birth?
make a case!
Bama loses in CCG samething, make a case!
Oklahoma, same thing
Oregon finishes p12 champ with 1 loss! and ND fans think ND is more deserving? make the case!
LSU can't lose to Bama in CCG. They are in the same division.
Pac 12 is out period. Winning that conference means nothing. The other teams you mentioned will get in over ND with one loss.
Lsu cant lose to bama on ccg bc they play in the same divisiontry convincing UGA fans ND should get in! ND gets a spot by virtue of?
make-a case!
LSU loses to Bama in a CCG! ND gets a birth?
make a case!
Bama loses in CCG samething, make a case!
Oklahoma, same thing
Oregon finishes p12 champ with 1 loss! and ND fans think ND is more deserving? make the case!
If bama loses to LSU and doesnt win their division...they dont have much on their schedule to hold their hats onBama and LSU can both be 1 loss teams then.
Your statement would be correct if instead of saying "should" you had stated "might be... depending on the circumstances" as in:I think a 2 loss team where the 2nd loss is incurred in a CCG should be equally considered with ND.
Pretending CCGs are the most import thing = dismissing what happens during the regular season.CCG = 2 highly ranked teams competing, head to head
No CCG = sitting home letting two good teams battle providing you a free pass!
Pretending CCGs are the most import thing = dismissing what happens during the regular season.
Pretending CCGs are the most important thing = pretending all CCG will be played by 2 highly ranked opponents.
Pretending CCGs are the most important thing = pretending all P5 conferences have the same quality of teams.
I don't have to tell myself anything. I can objectively defend my argument. You can't.you keep telling yourself that
If bama loses to LSU and doesnt win their division...they dont have much on their schedule to hold their hats on
CCG = 2 highly ranked teams competing, head to head
No CCG = sitting home letting two good teams battle providing you a free pass!
This won't apply to the ACC or PAC-12 this year. Possibly the Big 12 too. There have definitely been recent seasons for the Big 10 when they didn't have 2 highly ranked teams in their CCG either.
The biggest benefit we'd get from being in a conference this year is the chance to take down Clemson on the field. (not saying I think we would beat them in a CCG, but we would have the opportunity).
IF Oregon wins out they will have a far far more impressive resume than ND!
Far, far more impressive is a stretch. And they’re not going to play a highly ranked team in their CCG.
Our win against Michigan would be better as Michigan is home. Iowa Minnesota Mich st.....Lol. thats garbage. Not saying we have a lot but that is trash. I think Sc would beat any of those teams. Stanford Virginia Duke Louisville just as good as mich stA 1 loss Penn State would have more on their resume if the loss is a close one to Ohio St than we do.
A win over UM----road win at Iowa----road win at Mich St-----road win at Minnesota.
It's a better resume than ours IMO.
The true nightmare could be Ohio St beats Wisc in regular season and finishes 12-0. Loses to Wisc in Big Ten Title game.
Both finish 12-1----both could get in
We must beat Michigan...
And they must beat PSU this weekend.
USC beats Oregon.
Ohio State has a tough slate of Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State...
Anybody much smarter than me wanna keep going with this....
The road is a tough one for the Irish.... The Michigan game is going to be hard one.
Michigan is bad. If we don’t beat them by 20 we should not be in the conversation. OSU will crush UM. Big is bad and only OSU is a playoff team
I do not see any way we get in this year. We had our shot against UGA and played safe in second half n lost. We do not deserve to be in top 5.
20 at their place at night. Don't see it.Michigan is bad. If we don’t beat them by 20 we should not be in the conversation. OSU will crush UM. Big is bad and only OSU is a playoff team
I do not see any way we get in this year. We had our shot against UGA and played safe in second half n lost. We do not deserve to be in top 5.
He’s just trying to start problems, and be negative. 20? No.20 at their place at night. Don't see it.
The same Utah that USC beat? By 7 with their 3rd string qb?Probably Utah. Better than anyone on the ND schedule. Plus, they will playing not sitting.
Just being honest, I don't think we have the offensive weapons or the head coach to compete against Bama/Clemson/Ohio State/Oklahoma with a month layoff between games. Just hoping we win out and somehow draw an alluring matchup in a NY6 bowl, though there don't appear to be many great possibilities there. All we can do is go 11-1 and let the chips fall where they may.
i'm talking about what the game IS. No one is questioning how it is treated or approached. the poster suggested that ND playing and winning a NY6 bowl game is better than making the playoff and losing. can't see how anyone who has ever competed for something would accept that.It’s all subjective but I think the example of Clemson getting over the hump is a powerful one at least enough to say hey if we don’t treat it like a consolation it can be used as a tool to get us where we eventually want to go.
Utah is very average.Probably Utah. Better than anyone on the ND schedule. Plus, they will playing not sitting.