Agree on his teams having better effort and will run through a wall for him. But all things being equal, RIGHT NOW, i'd think kelly would win pretty confidently. The lack of ability to make in game adjustments by freeman and staff are pretty bad at this point, through ONLY 2 games though.jmo: BK vs MF
If given equal talented personnel to develop and in equal venue, all things being equal, IMO, MF‘s team will be better with much better effort. MF elicits respect with loyalty. BK gives and gets false respect and obligatory loyalty. ND traded up.
Bk was a bad coach last year and so far this year. Mf built a better staff. Id take MF right now. I think BK has packed it inAgree on his teams having better effort and will run through a wall for him. But all things being equal, RIGHT NOW, i'd think kelly would win pretty confidently. The lack of ability to make in game adjustments by freeman and staff are pretty bad at this point, through ONLY 2 games though.
So, the BAR is exponentially higher for Freeman than Kelly. Kelly IMO has reached his top Bar, and I don't think he'll do as good at LSU as he had last 5 years at ND.
Can freeman reach his bar and take ND to a NC VICTORY? That is the story we're watching right now. I think he has a shot. After 2019 season, I knew Kelly didn't have NC Victory potential. To lose that game at Georgia where I honestly thought we were the better team, and then get humiliated to a team we were clearly better than at UM, I was done. He got ND to an extremely healthy spot to build on, so I appreciate that.
I think he's realizing he's not as good as he thought he was and LSU will take some work, does he put it in. Assembly his staff short answer is a noBk was a bad coach last year and so far this year. Mf built a better staff. Id take MF right now. I think BK has packed it in
People keep forgetting that this staff didn't coach the bowl game. Freeman and Rees had a handful of practices together as head coach/offensive coordinator with a hodgepodge staff that was predominantly not retained. Holdovers were really only Rees and Mickens. BK was at LSU, and Polian was going. Elston was gone to Michigan. Lance Taylor was gone to Louisville. Quinn wasn't going to be retained and I'm sure he knew it.Agree on his teams having better effort and will run through a wall for him. But all things being equal, RIGHT NOW, i'd think kelly would win pretty confidently. The lack of ability to make in game adjustments by freeman and staff are pretty bad at this point, through ONLY 2 games though.
So, the BAR is exponentially higher for Freeman than Kelly. Kelly IMO has reached his top Bar, and I don't think he'll do as good at LSU as he had last 5 years at ND.
Can freeman reach his bar and take ND to a NC VICTORY? That is the story we're watching right now. I think he has a shot. After 2019 season, I knew Kelly didn't have NC Victory potential. To lose that game at Georgia where I honestly thought we were the better team, and then get humiliated to a team we were clearly better than at UM, I was done. He got ND to an extremely healthy spot to build on, so I appreciate that.
Elston was not gone at that point. But I get your pointPeople keep forgetting that this staff didn't coach the bowl game. Freeman and Rees had a handful of practices together as head coach/offensive coordinator with a hodgepodge staff that was predominantly not retained. Holdovers were really only Rees and Mickens. BK was at LSU, and Polian was going. Elston was gone to Michigan. Lance Taylor was gone to Louisville. Quinn wasn't going to be retained and I'm sure he knew it.
I don't hang the bowl loss on anyone really, and certainly not THIS coaching staff. Yeah, it's on Freeman's record and I get the frustrations with the lack of halftime adjustments, etc. Reality is that has nothing to do with the current group gelling together and Freeman WILL get better. He has his entire career, and I don't believe he'll stop learning now. It's frustrating to watch as we feel so close, but ultimately it's all part of the process to getting to a championship team on the field and on the sideline.
I hope they are preparing the next episode The Fall of Markus FreemanToday we start our run. Get that first win today Marcus !
Maybe next time!Today we start our run. Get that first win today Marcus !
Not in a million years !jmo: BK vs MF
If given equal talented personnel to develop and in equal venue, all things being equal, IMO, MF‘s team will be better with much better effort. MF elicits respect with loyalty. BK gives and gets false respect and obligatory loyalty. ND traded up.
You’re out of your mind, Marshall wasn’t in Ohio State’s league, Marshall was a 20 point underdog !I would say, I think it's a fairly reasonable assertion to make, that MF's career started in the 2nd half of the bowl game. For the 1st half, just keep doing what you've been doing all season, same base offense and defense, same game prep routine, same everything pretty much....
But where MF takes over is at halftime. Now he's got some executive decisions to make, all the various halftime adjustments, which are not the end all and be all of coaching a football game, but as far as MF is concerned, that's when he really became the HC and the responsibility was his. And it wasn't a pretty picture....
So he's 0-2, but they were both tough opponents, and now he gets to beat up on some cupcakes. Although Cal, UNC, Stanford, BYU aren't really cupcakes, they're just not as tough as big bois like tOSU. But still, very beatable opponents. Any ND coach with any pretensions whatsoever to a high level of success has to beat these types of teams. So here it comes Marcus Freeman!
Did this guy just say “mARsHaLl” was a tough opponent 😂I would say, I think it's a fairly reasonable assertion to make, that MF's career started in the 2nd half of the bowl game. For the 1st half, just keep doing what you've been doing all season, same base offense and defense, same game prep routine, same everything pretty much....
But where MF takes over is at halftime. Now he's got some executive decisions to make, all the various halftime adjustments, which are not the end all and be all of coaching a football game, but as far as MF is concerned, that's when he really became the HC and the responsibility was his. And it wasn't a pretty picture....
So he's 0-2, but they were both tough opponents, and now he gets to beat up on some cupcakes. Although Cal, UNC, Stanford, BYU aren't really cupcakes, they're just not as tough as big bois like tOSU. But still, very beatable opponents. Any ND coach with any pretensions whatsoever to a high level of success has to beat these types of teams. So here it comes Marcus Freeman!
You’d also take LeBrick over Jordan. You like losing.Bk was a bad coach last year and so far this year. Mf built a better staff. Id take MF right now. I think BK has packed it in