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This12 is silly. 14 is silly. 16 is silly
It should be no more than 8 teams. They ruined the best regular season in all of sports
Not surprised you don't get it. It is all about the money.Looks like we are going to 14 teams. Im glad we finally got out of this BS archaic system , however I don't get the 14 team thing. One season of 12 teams in 2025 and now 14 in 2026. It should have always been an 8 or 16 team format. I don't get it
Yes, but 16 brings in more revenue than 14Not surprised you don't get it. It is all about the money.
No shit sherlock. I know its about the money. Why 14? At this point go to 16 teams and NO byesNot surprised you don't get it. It is all about the money.
Pendick44 just likes to be a smart ass.Yes, but 16 brings in more revenue than 14
👍No shit sherlock. I know its about the money. Why 14? At this point go to 16 teams and NO byes
That’s a reasonable point.Notre Dame could go 10-2 and easily make the playoffs; maybe even 9-3 depending on our schedule
so anyone still bleating about needing to be in a conference can go suck an egg
The expansions of the playoffs makes the need for any team to be in a conference mootNotre Dame could go 10-2 and easily make the playoffs; maybe even 9-3 depending on our schedule
so anyone still bleating about needing to be in a conference can go suck an egg
Money is not an issue at Notre Dame so no need to worry or think about itI think from an on the field perspective this is true. But the inequitable financial piece of this means IU, Nw, and Purdue get $23M and we get $18M if we make the playoff. Those teams also get $90M from Fox and we get $50M from NBC. At some point earning $40-50M less despite doing more matters. Add that to the discussion of 8 of the 14 teams necessarily coming from the Big 2, and FSU, NC and Va joining them, and we may start to feel like the frog in the pot. But agree we are better off than anyone not in those conferences, can still compete on mostly even playing field, and no room to panic. I think a changing world requires change, the best deals are made from a position of strength, and I don't hate the idea of a conference like many do, but I do resent the fact that a jealous world is trying to force us to assimilate.
i paid roughly 60k a year in tuition and room/board, so they certainly cared about my money 😅I think it is fair to say money is less important to ND, and values are more important at ND, then most (almost all) places. But of course money is an issue--otherwise they would not negotiate a contract with NBC. Read Jack's third factor that could lead to conference affiliation.
If the Notre Dame administration made decisions based solely on money, the football team would have been playing full time in the Big 10 a long time ago.I think it is fair to say money is less important to ND, and values are more important at ND, then most (almost all) places. But of course money is an issue--otherwise they would not negotiate a contract with NBC. Read Jack's third factor that could lead to conference affiliation.
Glad you agree with me, the AD, and just about every body else that ND does not make decisions based solely on money.. Nice work. If you want to see if you can name the color of the moon later I will make sure you get a thumbs up!If the Notre Dame administration made decisions based solely on money, the football team would have been playing full time in the Big 10 a long time ago.
Related to football decisions, it also does not hurt when your university sits squarely on an endowment worth 20-billion.......Glad you agree with me, the AD, and just about every body else that ND does not make decisions based solely on money.. Nice work. If you want to see if you can name the color of the moon later I will make sure you get a thumbs up!
90M? I have heard some big rumors but never that one.I think from an on the field perspective this is true. But the inequitable financial piece of this means IU, Nw, and Purdue get $23M and we get $18M if we make the playoff. Those teams also get $90M from Fox and we get $50M from NBC. At some point earning $40-50M less despite doing more matters. Add that to the discussion of 8 of the 14 teams necessarily coming from the Big 2, and FSU, NC and Va joining them, and we may start to feel like the frog in the pot. But agree we are better off than anyone not in those conferences, can still compete on mostly even playing field, and no room to panic. I think a changing world requires change, the best deals are made from a position of strength, and I don't hate the idea of a conference like many do, but I do resent the fact that a jealous world is trying to force us to assimilate.
It will be two seasons of a 12 team playoff. 2024 and 2025.Looks like we are going to 14 teams. Im glad we finally got out of this BS archaic system , however I don't get the 14 team thing. One season of 12 teams in 2025 and now 14 in 2026. It should have always been an 8 or 16 team format. I don't get it
Not when those conference teams decide they really don't need to schedule Notre Dame as an out of conference game. And don't tell me they will due to money. They all make more money than ND at this point with their TV contracts and playoff payouts. Rutgers makes more than us. Why would any of those teams go out of their way to schedule us?The expansions of the playoffs makes the need for any team to be in a conference moot
Correct. When we join the conference formerly known as the big ten, it won't be SOLELY about money.If the Notre Dame administration made decisions based solely on money, the football team would have been playing full time in the Big 10 a long time ago.
We wont be joining that conferenceCorrect. When we join the conference formerly known as the big ten, it won't be SOLELY about money.
Agree. And frankly, being aligned with Michigan and the rest of that group that universally despises Notre Dame is something I hope never happens.We wont be joining that conference
Byes help reward teams that have enjoyed an exceptional regular season.No shit sherlock. I know its about the money. Why 14? At this point go to 16 teams and NO byes
Smart? Not so much………..feeble minded arse indeed!Pendick44 just likes to be a smart ass.
I doubt this ever happens but if it does we will survey the landscape and either decide there are enough worthy opponents not in the SEC/BIG or we will inform both conferences which one we’ve chosen. For now we are fine - to some the world is a giant scary place but thankfully not to our AD and administration.Not when those conference teams decide they really don't need to schedule Notre Dame as an out of conference game. And don't tell me they will due to money. They all make more money than ND at this point with their TV contracts and playoff payouts. Rutgers makes more than us. Why would any of those teams go out of their way to schedule us?
Works well in the NFL, and rewarding two standout teams, or four as it is now, is all well and good.Byes help reward teams that have enjoyed an exceptional regular season.
Our AD and administration have avoided the Big 10 for decades. "Leopards do not change their spots."I doubt this ever happens but if it does we will survey the landscape and either decide there are enough worthy opponents not in the SEC/BIG or we will inform both conferences which one we’ve chosen. For now we are fine - to some the world is a giant scary place but thankfully not to our AD and administration.
You are right that things change very slowly at ND but they do it occasionally change. There’s no looming crisis here.Our AD and administration have avoided the Big 10 for decades. "Leopards do not change their spots."
BIG and SEC want the bye. to give their respective conference champions an advantage.No shit sherlock. I know its about the money. Why 14? At this point go to 16 teams and NO byes
"changing slowly" is just another way of saying the leadership/vision is lacking at ND.You are right that things change very slowly at ND but they do it occasionally change. There’s no looming crisis here.
As long as ND hasInside of the next 5 years.
This is the one positive with the expansion. ND can stay independent?Notre Dame could go 10-2 and easily make the playoffs; maybe even 9-3 depending on our schedule
so anyone still bleating about needing to be in a conference can go suck an egg
Notre Dame’s going to get $50 million from NBC, and also $17 million from the ACC. When you add the 12-18 million from the playoffs you get either $79 million if Notre Dame misses the playoffs, or $85 million when they make it. The B1G has an estimated payout of $96 million/year per team. It isn’t great news, but it’s not that bad either.I think from an on the field perspective this is true. But the inequitable financial piece of this means IU, Nw, and Purdue get $23M and we get $18M if we make the playoff. Those teams also get $90M from Fox and we get $50M from NBC. At some point earning $40-50M less despite doing more matters. Add that to the discussion of 8 of the 14 teams necessarily coming from the Big 2, and FSU, NC and Va joining them, and we may start to feel like the frog in the pot. But agree we are better off than anyone not in those conferences, can still compete on mostly even playing field, and no room to panic. I think a changing world requires change, the best deals are made from a position of strength, and I don't hate the idea of a conference like many do, but I do resent the fact that a jealous world is trying to force us to assimilate.
At this point, what does ND have to gain by joining a conference ?Inside of the next 5 years.
And yet ND has continued to graduate its players at the best rate in the nation, stayed independent, has a spot in the new playoff structure, and still has all the conferences trying to date them"changing slowly" is just another way of saying the leadership/vision is lacking at ND.
BIG and SEC want the bye. to give their respective conference champions an advantage.