Surfrider619 and I are sitting at a bar in Bowling Green Ohio looking to take on anyone and everyone. There's a guy here spouting off about BVG.

Seeing 2022 ATH Jake Pope who the Irish offered a few months back.

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Another winning week but not by much. Better than the alternative...... @tigerguy_ looking forward to getting back on track with the I'd rather lose money than be as fugly as sjb lock of the week. @IRISHHOLLAND3 where were you last week? Slow week all around. Starting on tue this week for those of you who want in on the maction. On to the next one.

Riding

CC -4.5

cincy. Got 3.5 and it's way up already.

iowa - 2.5

Wisconsin -7

Oregon-13.5

Fading

Minn
Stanford
USC
Michigan (got 10)

I'll take the points in bedlam. 7.5

Osu, UF, bama, and byu 1h

What do you know? What do you say?

It’s the little things .... ❤

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Brohm vs Fleck

I excluded Berrong for the fact that everyone agrees he is wayyyy Underrated and a top 200 player.

Wesley has just announced his pledge to the Fighting Irish.

Story: https://notredame.rivals.com/news/notre-dame-gets-commitment-from-four-star-guard-blake-wesley

Commitment Impact: https://notredame.rivals.com/news/c...-blake-wesley-means-for-notre-dame-basketball

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What's wrong with that school? The guy's gunna Sandusky the other dude? That's messed up.

ND is on a roll with recruiting. Is Edwards a possibility?

Haven't heard much about him lately...

With the Irish looking to land a 2nd running back in the 2021 class out of these 3 recruits who is the best one, Audric Estime, Donovan edwards, or Byron Cardwell? You hear good things about them all but which one is the best for ND?

Here are my updated player rankings. I've included the remaining targets as well. Abiara, who won't sign with ND, is included as a refrence point. I have no problem if you completley disagree with my rankings, but instead of posting something like "you're wrong on player x", let me know know why you think i'm wrong.

Fisher
Buchner
Styles
Spindler
Rubio
<<Edwards>>
Kollie
<<Gilliam>>
Johnson
Riley
<<TMA>>
<<Wright>>
<<Cardwell>>
Tucker
--Abiara--
Berrong
Barnes
Alt
Colzie
<<Estime>>
Diggs
Schweitzer
Thomas
Coogan
Walters
Evans
Onye
Kia
Byran

A couple thoughts on these rankings and players:
-Buchner has superstar potential, but also big bust potential. His funky motion, lack of playing time in HS, and reps against poor competition make his ranking very hard to gauge. He also disspointed mightily at the Elive 11 camp. I still can't get past his jr film which is flat out elite.
-I had Riley, who I still love as the 3rd best player in the class last rankings. I just like some of the new commits more who have really high ceilings.
-Clark Lee's track record is outstanding as is the recent productivity of Hawaiian players at ND, but I would have passed on Kia. I'm not sure how you offer and accept his commitment thisyear but passed on Herbig last year, who is bigger, stronger, faster and a better player than Kia is.
-I have no clue how to evaluate a kicker, but Bryan's leg is not as good as Doerer's, Yoons or Setta's leg was on HS film, and his stats in HS are very average. I understand he also plays LB, and I understand in HS you kick off a tee and you have HS kids snapping and holding who don't practice much, but i'm not blown away with his available film on HUDL

LSU needs to answer for its Baylor-esque institutional rot, and firing Ed Orgeron should be the first step.

Ed Orgeron has to go.

Period.

And he might not be the only one at LSU, in athletics and beyond, who needs to be sent packing.

On Monday, USA Today published a thorough investigation into LSU, which seems to have a robust culture of turning a blind eye to women on campus who report domestic violence and sexual assault claims to police.

Especially when allegations are made against members of the football team.

According to USA Today, in the four years that Orgeron has been head coach, no fewer than nine members of his Tigers program have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence.

And those are just the ones who went to police. According to RAINN, the national anti-sexual violence organization, a small percentage of women — about 20 percent of those college-aged — report sexual assault to authorities, so it’s almost certain there are more who haven’t stepped forward.

Not surprisingly, Orgeron and LSU seemed especially protective of running back Derrius Guice. Documents show that Guice was accused of rape by two women and a third said he took semi-nude photos without her permission, which he sent to at least one other person.

Orgeron was not the head coach when the first known accusation against Guice was made, but he was a member of the coaching staff. He was named head coach about five months before the second rape allegation against Guice, which came in April 2017.

In all three cases, USA Today writes, LSU officials either doubted the women’s stories, did not investigate or did not call the police.

In the four years that Ed Orgeron (left) has been LSU head coach, no fewer than nine members of his Tigers teams have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence, including ex-running back Derrius Guice. (Stephen M. Dowell/Orlando Sentinel/Tribune News Service via Getty Images)
In the four years that Ed Orgeron (left) has been LSU head coach, no fewer than nine members of his Tigers teams have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence, including ex-running back Derrius Guice. (Stephen M. Dowell/Orlando Sentinel/Tribune News Service via Getty Images)
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Which meant the Tigers’ star running back could go about his life, and LSU could reap the benefits of having him on the field. In 2017, Guice rushed for 1,251 yards and scored 13 total touchdowns. His attorney says Guice was never punished by the team or school.

Who cares about young women as long as the football team is good, right?

LSU isn’t the first school and athletic department to send this message. Just the latest.

Guice was hardly the only troubling instance. USAT reports that at least seven officials at the school knew wide receiver Drake Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend, and did nothing for months. It wasn’t until after Davis pleaded guilty in court to several misdemeanors that the school expelled him.

Quarterback Peter Parrish was accused of raping a woman earlier this year, suspended for a year by LSU and has since transferred to the University of Memphis.

Three more players have been accused of rape, and a fourth of recording a woman during sex without her knowledge. Only one has been arrested. Two other players accused of dating violence were arrested.

LSU would not confirm or deny if any of those players were disciplined.

The story conjures bad memories of the sexual assault scandal at Baylor, particularly as the rot at LSU doesn’t stop with the athletics department. Samantha Brennan, the woman who accused Guice of taking photos of her without permission, said the school’s Title IX department never reached out to her after she filed a report with campus police, as required. (Brennan did not want to press charges then, and maintains that stance now.)

LSU has refused to provide records of one rape allegation, from a member of the women’s tennis team, to the victim and her attorney despite repeated requests. Davis’ victim, also a member of the women’s tennis team, told an athletic trainer about her abuse and the trainer told no one for a year. Meanwhile, the young woman’s father informed the tennis team’s co-head coach what was happening and was told, “couldn’t be possible, wouldn’t be possible.”

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The Irish are 10-5 on this day, with the most recent taking the bronze medal for reasons beyond the game. It also is an infamous day because of 1993.

Bronze Medal, 2010: This 27-3 win versus Army at Yankee Stadium in the Shamrock Series had little excitement, and it raised Notre Dame’s record to a modest 6-5. But the Jumbotron at this game and other aspects of promoting the university set into motion Campus Crossroads, which would open in 2017. This was another seed planter to modernizing the overall program under first-year head coach Brian Kelly.
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Silver Medal, 1920: In what would be his final game, George Gipp completes 5 of 6 passes for 157 yards in a part-time role, with touchdown passes of 35 and 55 yards in a 33-7 defeat of Northwestern to extend the Irish winning streak to 17 games. A few days later, Gipp would check into St. Joseph’s Hospital for treatment of an illness he can’t shake.


Gold Medal, 1943: The most overshadowed, overlooked, underappreciated and probably underrated game in Notre Dame history.
Ever hear of Notre Dame’s 14-13 win over Iowa Pre-Flight?
The Irish were No. 1 while the Seahawks, a semi-pro team with former college stars assembled during World War II, were No. 2. It was the first of only still three occasions ever in Notre Dame Stadium there was a 1 vs. 2 showdown. And the Irish won by the slimmest of margins, 14-13, en route to the national title while Iowa Pre-Flight finished No. 2.
Notre Dame also defeated the teams that finished 3 (Michigan), 4 (Navy), 9 (Northwestern), 11 (Army) and 13 (Georgia Tech).
Led by sophomore John Lujack, who made a one-handed interception and also completed a 59-yard toss to John Yonakor, Notre Dame rallied from a 7-0 halftime deficit and 13-7 in the second half (a Seahawks extra point hit the upright) with a touchdown run by Creighton Miller, who would lead the nation in rushing with 911 yards, and the extra point.
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2017/4/11/15145172/1943-iowa-pre-flight-notre-dame

Story: https://notredame.rivals.com/news/notre-dame-flips-ot-caleb-johnson-from-auburn

Commit Impact: https://notredame.rivals.com/news/c...g-caleb-johnson-means-for-notre-dame-football

Column On ND's OL Class & Jeff Quinn: https://notredame.rivals.com/news/column-notre-dame-s-jeff-quinn-proves-to-be-an-elite-recruiter

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I spoke with Oklahoma DT commit Kelvin Gilliam tonight. Nothing seems super imminent in terms of a flip, but he's very much considering it. He'll be talking with Brian Kelly and staff it sounded like early next week. I think that's when the Irish are going to try to seal the deal.

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November 19th is the anniversary of the 1966 Notre Dame / Michigan State #1 vs #2, 10-10 tie game.

I remember this because November 19th is the anniversary of my Father’s birthday. He would have been 100 years old today.

My mother and father went to the game which was played in East Lansing on a dark and overcast day. My father said that at the end of the game it was totally quiet as everyone walked out of the stadium...... neither side was happy about the result and since the game (commonly called the “Game of the Century” - the first time that term was used by the media) had so much hype of #1 vs #2 and it was a great let-down that neither side won.

I vividly remember watching the game on TV. A classic that Ara took unwarranted criticism for his play calling at the end of the game, resulting in the “play for a tie” accusation. At the end of the game ND was deep in its own territory, against a vicious MSU defense led by Bubba Smith, using our backup QB and 2Nd string RB and Ara decided it was too risky to throw the ball and risk a turnover. MSU had a very good bare footed kicker from Hawaii who had long range and could have kicked a FG to win the game if ND made a mistake.

As we all know, Ara was vindicated because ND played USC the next Saturday in LA blowing out the #10 ranked Trojans 51-0 and winning the National Championship. The National Champion was selected at the end of the regular season (before the bowl games).

Story:


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I mentioned him not too long ago in Lucky Charms. 6-5, 225-pound DE from Missouri adds an offer from #NotreDame

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This evening Notre Dame offered 2022 DE Elijah Brown.
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Brother of current Notre Dame defensive lineman Kurt Hinish..

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The Irish are 14-3-1 on this day, with the tie maybe the most famous in football history.

Bronze Medal, 1955: While leading No. 4 Notre Dame to an 8-1 mark, the late Paul Hornung’s all-around prowess was showcased in this 17-14 victory over Iowa, a nemesis during the 1950s.

Trailing at home with less than 10 minutes in the contest, Hornung returned Iowa’s kickoff 38 yards and then completed three passes for 47 yards, the final 16 to Jim Morse for the TD. Hornung then kicked the extra point to knot the score at 14.

After being part of a defensive stop, Hornung converted a 3rd-and-11 situation and kicked the game-winning field goal with 2:15 remaining after a 15-yard penalty on Notre Dame. The Irish student body carried Hornung off the field as Notre Dame improved to 8-1. History also was made when the students tore down the goal posts for the first time in the stadium’s 26-year history.


Silver Medal, 1988: On Senior Day at Notre Dame, No. 1-ranked Notre Dame ends a three-game losing streak to independent rival Penn State with a 21-3 victory. The Irish pile up 502 yards total offense with Tony Rice rushing for one score and tossing a 67-yard touchdown to Rocket Ismail on another. The seniors (led by captains Andy Heck, Mark Green and Ned Bolcar) who were 5-6 as freshmen and sophomores — the first class at Notre Dame to have consecutive sub-.500 seasons — next have a 1-2 showdown at 10-0 USC. After this contest, the Irish also accept an invitation to play another independent, 10-0 and No. 3 West Virginia, in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Gold Medal, 1966: Twenty years after the most famous tie in college football history between No. 1 Army and No. 2 Notre Dame (0-0) helps the Fighting Irish to a national title at the end of the season, an even more famous deadlock occurs between No. 1 Notre Dame and No. 2 Michigan State in East Lansing (10-10).

Trailing 10-0 and minus starting quarterback Terry Hanratty, No. 3 Heisman vote getter Nick Eddy and All-American center George Goeddeke, the Irish rally to knot the game and, on the first play of the fourth quarter, miss a field goal that would have put them ahead. In the closing minute, the Irish run out the clock in their territory (although they do sneak for a first down on fourth-and-one from their 39), which leads to national castigation of third-year head coach Ara Parseghian.

However, with Michigan State’s season finished and Notre Dame still having to play at Pac-8 champ USC, the Irish actually increase their lead in the polls from 37-27 in first-place votes to 40-10 over the Spartans, with unbeaten Alabama third with seven votes. Here is the second half of the game.
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The Notre Dame football team had one positive test out of 232 administered from Nov. 10 through Sunday, it announced Tuesday morning. That player is in isolation and did not travel to Saturday's 45-31 win over Boston College. There were no close contacts identified through contact tracing.

As of Nov. 16, there is one player in isolation and two others in quarantine who were previously identified as a close contact.

Notre Dame has 195 active cases on campus as of Nov. 16 and reported 17 positive test results Monday. The fall semester ends Friday.

8-0 Notre Dame already has played a full Big 10 schedule and surpassed any kind of Pac-12 schedule as it enters first-semester final exams week from Nov. 16-20 before the Nov. 21 bye and the Nov. 27 game at North Carolina.